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Microsoft Announces New 'Surface' Tablet, New Hardware and Software Based on Windows 8
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Really? How do you know it will fail? There already seems to be a ton of interest in this thing, even on this forum, of Mac Users. This thing really address's the short comings of something like an iPad or android tablet for people who actually need a full OS on something ultra portable.
Microsoft is not even close to the same position Apple was in the 90s, Apple was suffering from producing absolute garbage, mismanagement, and a slew of failed products. And a total lack of direction. I should also mention, the iPod was just the start of Apple getting huge. What REALLY saved Apple was Steve Jobs streamlining the company, Microsoft also put in a cash infusion, which while small helped tell the computing world at the time that Apple was still worth something.
The product that really saved Apples Ass? The original iMac.
Microsoft is the KING of Business computing, about 30% of the server world runs off Windows, 90 or so% of the Desktop/laptop computers in the world run Windows. The Xbox 360 is the most popular console out there right now, Windows Phone is starting to gain traction as well.
Microsoft won't become ivveralvent unless they really screw up, the business world literally runs on Windows, the home computer runs on Windows, the only real alternative is Linux/OSX. So far, neither of them have put a dent in that.
The reason for Enterprise/R&D/Gaming/Custom PC Market/Business relying on windows is, well a pretty simple one.
Besides the total lack of hardware available, Apple doesn't offer any decent support for an Enterprise environment. They don't even offer decent server software. Have you ever seen 10.7 server? Its a mess.
No hardware either.
It also boils down to.
Apple will TELL a business what it needs and how it should run its networks and computers.
Microsoft/PC Vendors Listen to what the customer wants, and then gives it to them, its the main reason Windows has stayed so popular.
Sorry, Microsoft isn't going anywhere. I've been using Apple Computers snice Kindergarden, and I own a couple of them as well. But I also use PC's and Windows very heavily, and Apple makes some great computers. But they really are for a niche market.
So you know what the battery life is gonna be? And To be honest, I would HAPPILY pay 1,000 dollars for this thing. Its a tablet with a Real OS thats actually productive, and I'm not limited by things like Android or iOS, and I get a real keyboard! I'll gladly take 5 or 6 battery life for that.
Are you on crack? Microsoft is currently worth about 230 Billion dollars, have tons of cash in the bank, and they profit billions every quarter. Microsoft is doing just fine. Yes, Apple is bigger at about 300 billionish last time I saw, but that doesn't make Microsoft Small at all, they are still a HUGE very successful and very profitable company.
I like Apple just fine, but if you really think Microsoft is going to go to **** Because of them, you have zero understanding of the computing world as a whole.
AND TO BE TOTALLY HONEST.
This tablet, is generating buzz because if its everything that Microsoft is telling us its going to be, its gonna be great, and its going to be something people want to own.
Even the most hardcore Apple fanboy should want this product to do good and start eating into iPad marketshare. Why? Because it'll motivate Apple to do something crazy with the iPad, and thats a good a thing for us, the consumer.
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You ever try Rocking a PPC Mac? I have about 7 of them. Sure they are reliable. But the last PPC OSX version, 10.5 is no longer supported. At all. You literally can't do things like watch Netflix, watch youtube with Mac Tubes, update flash. Or play anything non PPC based on a PPC machine. Outside of surfing and legacy software. PPC Machines are totally useless.
On the other hand, I can take a Windows XP Machine from 2005 ( the last year of the PPC And OSX 10.5, which is no longer supported ). And assuming it had good hardware for back then, I can do pretty much any modren task on it outside of high end games or video editing. Not so much with old versions of OSX.
OSX pretty much forces you to upgrade very often, I would know, I've been using Macs since OS 9
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Yes it is.
If this thing was so ******, then why is there such a huge buzz about it?
Surface Price Rumor
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/20/pegatron_microsoft_surface/
Surface RT (ARM) = US $599
Surface Pro (x86) = US $799
SHUT UP & TAKE MY 799 BUGS!!!!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/20/pegatron_microsoft_surface/
Surface RT (ARM) = US $599
Surface Pro (x86) = US $799
SHUT UP & TAKE MY 799 BUGS!!!!
@MAL;
You dont understand. The retina display double the resolution but not the workspace. It still a 1024x768 workspace but with better anti-aliasing. On the macbook pro you can zoom out to 1920x1200 but it's not as good as the native 1440x900 workspace. However the Microsoft surface will have a real 1920x1080 workspace.
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/20/pegatron_microsoft_surface/
Surface RT (ARM) = US $599
Surface Pro (x86) = US $799
SHUT UP & TAKE MY 799 BUGS!!!!
Excellent! 799$ is a fair price. It's 300$ less than the air with similar specs, a somewhat better form factor and more resolution. It make sens.
Unless you actually want to be able to run the ever increasing number of Vista/7 only programs.
Anyway, Snow Leopard users can upgrade directly to Mountain Lion. So you don't need to buy every new version.
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I think you'd be hard-pressed to give a better four (or six, expanding the abbreviation) word review of Pages than that.
came across this article today on Cult of Mac http://www.cultofmac.com/174867/four-out-of-five-americans-wont-consider-a-microsoft-surface/
Yes, I guess I did feed you in your derailment. I guess I should know better, simply ignoring your insecure rant about Macrumors being a big bad Anti-apple site would've been better.
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I praise what deserves praising. If Apple messes up, I will say so. The fact they make some good software/hardware sometimes does not give them a free pass when they do mess up.
Same for any other entities.
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You can that blasting ? I call that questionning what wasn't shown. It is in fact quite the objective observation, very far from what we've seen in this thread. Props to the man for not surrendering to hype (as some have done over this) and also props to him for not going the opposite route and just bashing.
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Yearly.
I never said you HAD to. Don't read into things that aren't there. And, I feel very sorry for you that you wait for replies on a forum. Take your spouse out for a nice dinner or something. Fly a kite, etc.
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Continued software support for an entire forum of users insistent that they want to be able to upgrade and tinker with every piece of a laptop (in regard to the ridiculous forum posts about the new retina MBP and it's upgradeability)?
Seems to me there is a lot of contradictory statements going around here.
But....I thought we were all super IT experts? Who needs support? Hm.
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Your statement needs to be applied to you as well. Why the love for the product that we know nothing about?? If not love, why so defensive?
Or the iPhone 4 lost WiFi signal and couldn't connect back while trying to show Safari on the Retina display.
Its a full OS that isn't complete running on prototype hardware.
Apple products have crashed mid demo as well. It happens
you don't need service packs
The last Service Pack for XP was released over 4 years ago - but monthly and ad hoc fixes still arrive for XP via Microsoft Update.
With a few exceptions, Service Packs are just collections of all of the fixes released by the update service.
...and those PPC Apples are full of security holes - you're only safe because no one is targeting them.
The last Service Pack for XP was released over 4 years ago - but monthly and ad hoc fixes still arrive for XP via Microsoft Update.
With a few exceptions, Service Packs are just collections of all of the fixes released by the update service.
...and those PPC Apples are full of security holes - you're only safe because no one is targeting them.
Link?
If you go back and read my posts in this thread I think you'll find that almost all of them have been countering those who know the Surface is junk, it will fail, etc etc. I posted several times that we know nothing about this product and was criticized by some who stated that we know a lot about it.
I'm objective and open minded. By reading this forum on a daily basis it's obvious that the majority here are not.
Because if you don't update, your mac becomes obsolite, you can't install software updates. Heck, there have been people that had to buy a new mac if they wanted to get a new iPhone or iPod. That's never been the case with Windows.
The whole reason I never bought an iPad/Android tablet and just stuck with my MacBook Pro w/Windows 7 on Bootcamp was because I couldn't really get anything comparable to a full DAW like FL Studio or Reason (or Logic, for that matter) on iOS. Sure there was Garageband, FL Studio Mobile (haha), and Nanostudio, but never a full-fledged music creation suite. I've been dreaming of having a full-fledged DAW that I could use on a portable touch-based surface for quite some time, as making loops and such will be super fast now as compared to using a mouse and keyboard.
Good job Microsoft. Now maybe Apple will follow up with an iPad Pro running OS X to compete.
Good job Microsoft. Now maybe Apple will follow up with an iPad Pro running OS X to compete.
Since when has an optional keyboard been classed as the thickness of a device?
Ok then, how thick is a current iPad, which can't run a full OS, when you add on a currently available iPad cover with keyboard build into the lid?
If we take this one which is sold as "Ultra Thin" for the iPad at "only" 8mm
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00835UQ...nd=1398335316930271868&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=
And add on the depth of the iPad, which can only run mobile apps at 9.4mm
We have a current, you can buy now thickness of 17.4mm
But you are unhappy a VASTLY more powerful machine running a full OS, decked out in the same manner is thinner?
Hmmmmm
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You count the keyboard cover when the company selling the devices markets the accessory as one of it's main features. As if you would never use the device with out it. If you go onto youtube and watch the Surface Keynote you will also see that not even the innovators can use it's touch screen with ease. I bet you will HAVE to use a keyboard/Trackpad with the Surface due to its lack of intuitive touch gestures.
This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSj8GUZDuac has a nice highlight of the device's crapy touch screen. It's in the middle.
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While the machine could definitely have potential for those who want "a full OS" to be "Windows" (or don't care), not sure yet - without knowing critical factors like RAM - that the machine is "VASTLY" more powerful. Maybe so, but no one anywhere has taken these on any sort of ride yet.
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Ummm it's an accessory. By definition you can use the tablet without it. You apple lovers are certainly getting desperate with your arguments.