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Microsoft Announces Surface Book i7, Desktop PC 'Surface Studio,' and Windows 10 Creators Update
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+ No modern i/o: no Thunderbolt 3/USB-C and not even USB 3.1gen2 (just 3.0)?
...I was really excited when I saw the pictures... then I got to the tech specs page and the wheels fell off.
The hinge & "tablet mode" concept looks lovely - but if that one feature isn't an end-of-argument winner for your type of work, even the current 27" iMac blows it out of the water, and there's hopefully an update in the pipeline.
I'm really anal about fingerprints, so I'm constantly wiping down the monitor. yes, IT is a drawback of touch. But, I keep a soft touch dry cloth on my desk anyways, because we've got so many touchscreens in life as is. Phone, Tablet, Laptops, Computers, etc. I've pretty much resigned myself to dealing with fingerprints. And IMHO (and this is going to be different for everyone, beign it's an opinion), the benefits of the touch devices, especially for artistic work is far greater than the con of having to wipe down my monitor once a night.
You sir, don't know what you are talking about. No "agency" will utilise computers with consumer hardware for anything professional. Comparing a computer with mobile GPU, and low voltage Intel Core i7 with a Mac Pro running dual Intel Xeon, ECC memory and workstation graphics card is just plain stupid.
This compares to the iMac, and not the Mac Pro.
yes especially in light Apple's shrinking revenue. They can no longer just sit back, they need to get off the snide
Nice hardware. Good move MS.
I personally don't like to touch my primary monitor. But for those who do, this looks a big nice touch screen. Price? If it replaces a tethered tablet/pad its worth the extra cost, for those who like a primary touch display over dedicated drawing peripherals.
Other trade-offs: The ports are lagging behind, while others complain Apple has moved too aggressively ahead. Does the Studio have no Thunderbolt 3 USB-C at all? Everything before Thunderbolt 3 USB-C is obsolete, but will take a decade or two to fade away. I wonder, as peripherals are replaced over the next 0-18 months, and everything is USB-C native, which will be more appealing? Dongles or lack of Thunderbolt?
For those saying its only about OS. Not so. The race-to-the-bottom late '90's hardware really hurt MS. Having a standard by which Dell and their ilk will be judged is very good for the Windows ecosystem.
I personally don't like to touch my primary monitor. But for those who do, this looks a big nice touch screen. Price? If it replaces a tethered tablet/pad its worth the extra cost, for those who like a primary touch display over dedicated drawing peripherals.
Other trade-offs: The ports are lagging behind, while others complain Apple has moved too aggressively ahead. Does the Studio have no Thunderbolt 3 USB-C at all? Everything before Thunderbolt 3 USB-C is obsolete, but will take a decade or two to fade away. I wonder, as peripherals are replaced over the next 0-18 months, and everything is USB-C native, which will be more appealing? Dongles or lack of Thunderbolt?
For those saying its only about OS. Not so. The race-to-the-bottom late '90's hardware really hurt MS. Having a standard by which Dell and their ilk will be judged is very good for the Windows ecosystem.
A lot of people who use tablets (drawing, touchscreen or whatever) wear thin gloves (or gloves missing fingers) to keep oil & sweat from smudging the drawing surface.
Paper or canvas has the same issue, which is a big part of the reason that many artists paint or draw on easels instead of on a table.
The real issue here will be performance. Of the digitizer and how well creative software can take advantage of the hardware interface.
Paper or canvas has the same issue, which is a big part of the reason that many artists paint or draw on easels instead of on a table.
The real issue here will be performance. Of the digitizer and how well creative software can take advantage of the hardware interface.
Kaby Lake, 2xUSB-C, and better GPU = I'll go with MBP 2016.
Else, this Surface Book is my next workhorse.
Can't wait until tomorrow!
Else, this Surface Book is my next workhorse.
Can't wait until tomorrow!
I may not know much about professional content creators but I see them doing their thing in my company and they're using iMacs not Mac Pros, which don't have ECC memory, workstation graphics or Intel Xeon processors.
Strange, we have our work Mac's hooked up to large touch screen TV's... yes 'Touch'. You will find MacOS adds an Ink option on System Preferences when it detects a touch input.
In 24 hrs apple going to intro the same boring notebook BUT with a new toolbar...........I cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That shrinking revenue is still billions of dollars. The news media is doing major click baits.
People who use Cintiqs for a living already deal with this, and I haven't heard complaints regarding that (there are other complaints, since it's wacom). Chances are if you use an iPhone or an iPad and are not bothered by smudges you will be able to live with working on a big touch screen.
As for the iPad as a drawing screen route, it works wonderfully. My best friend showed it off to me and I was jealous. What he loves is that he can essentially work in the full Mac OS version of photoshop using Astropad from his iPad Pro. When he needs speed, he connects via lightning. When he wants to sketch while half-watching TV on the couch, he uses wifi with a bit more lag.
He came from a cintiq, which also had some cursor lag. His complaint there was the perceived gap between the pen tip, the surface of the screen, and the pixels. He says that is basically eliminated on the ultra thin display of the iPad Pro which feels like he is painting directly on the surface. Plus Apple's display quality is nicer than Wacom, at least in his version of the cintiq which is at least one revision old.
Why should Apple care about new PC's? Their path is clearly marked down
I like how Microsoft is going after the segment that kept Apple alive before the iPhone and iPod. Creative Artists and the like. Maybe it will make Apple get off their ass and bring Touch to OS X(Mac OS). Sorry Tim but the iPad Pro is not an Laptop replacement. If it ran Mac OS then yes. I have Surface Pro 4 and use it at work to fill out some MS Word Docs. I tried them with Word on iPad but had Font issues and had to jump though third party apps to load those Fonts. Having issues with Windows 10 on the Surface Pro now. I just wish I could combine the two.
That Microsoft Studio is gorgeous. I want one but the biggest problem is migrating platforms. The Apple ecosystem is too good with continuity.
Compatibility is really gonna be the productivity killer of innovation imo.
Compatibility is really gonna be the productivity killer of innovation imo.
Except the 27" retina imac (I'm staring at one right now) has zero touch/pen capability. If Apple had come out with this you know it would be at least $3k. Heck, just an iPad pro is $1k. As a designer, I've used 100% Mac since 1993 and find myself less impressed with, less and committed to the brand in the last 4-5 years. People keep talking about how bad Windows is, but I know plenty of people who think W10 is just fine. In any case, Apple has their work cut out for them.
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I know, and its no cause for alarm, but the fact remains they're no longer printing money, and they need to start developing products that creates the buzz and excitement like it used too. I think the iPhone 7 was a nice step in the directions, I was pleasantly surprised by that, but I think they need to do more then just an OLED bar in place of the function keys.
And look nothing like any of Apple's products. Also I'm sorry you're sick and ROLF'd. I hope you get better soon.
I posted this a few years ago, when I started school, I was envious of my friends who had Macbooks. The machine was amazing. Word for mac had a feature which allowed me to record my notes as I was typing them. The ability to swipe to browse the net, was just amazing. The ability to read and respond to iMessages from my Macbook. I genuinely felt like I could get more done faster.
Now that Macbook feels old and dated, and the new ones feel like minor upgrades. While P.C. Laptops are blowing Apple out of the water. The Dell XPS13 is a good example or the Razer Blade series. They are booth good looking laptops, using current generation hardware, and cost about as much as the Macbook and Macbook Pro. Can I also add they have more than one port and the powerbrick doesn't break after a year.
Now Microsoft is releasing feels new and fresh, and I admit over priced. But next to the iMac it just makes you wonder. Look at the display on that, and compare it to the display on the iMac. The fact it has a touch screen. The fact it doesn't have these massive bezels. The fact that it looks like something out of 2016 and not 2006.
Microsoft is aiming this device squarely at Apple traditional bread and butter: creative professionals. Creative professionals have always wanted Apple products because they fit their niche better but Apple has abandoned them in favour of the iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch crowd. They assumed they would stick around because no one else is doing anything for them. Well here is Microsoft. Don't be surprised to see in 5 years Microsoft surpasses Apple in this market if Apple does not step up its game. Sad because these are the people who kept Apple alive in the 1990s.
Hopefully tomorrow will bring something to be excited about. If not I think I am going to replace my dying Macbook with a Dell XPS13 or a Razer Blade Stealth.
Now that Macbook feels old and dated, and the new ones feel like minor upgrades. While P.C. Laptops are blowing Apple out of the water. The Dell XPS13 is a good example or the Razer Blade series. They are booth good looking laptops, using current generation hardware, and cost about as much as the Macbook and Macbook Pro. Can I also add they have more than one port and the powerbrick doesn't break after a year.
Now Microsoft is releasing feels new and fresh, and I admit over priced. But next to the iMac it just makes you wonder. Look at the display on that, and compare it to the display on the iMac. The fact it has a touch screen. The fact it doesn't have these massive bezels. The fact that it looks like something out of 2016 and not 2006.
Microsoft is aiming this device squarely at Apple traditional bread and butter: creative professionals. Creative professionals have always wanted Apple products because they fit their niche better but Apple has abandoned them in favour of the iPhone, iPad and Apple Watch crowd. They assumed they would stick around because no one else is doing anything for them. Well here is Microsoft. Don't be surprised to see in 5 years Microsoft surpasses Apple in this market if Apple does not step up its game. Sad because these are the people who kept Apple alive in the 1990s.
Hopefully tomorrow will bring something to be excited about. If not I think I am going to replace my dying Macbook with a Dell XPS13 or a Razer Blade Stealth.
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