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Amazing how similar computers look nowadays to Apple products invented (and still sold) 5 years ago.

You do realize that iMac was not the first all-in-one on the market? There were ******** of other all-in-ones before Apple was relevant.
 
I thought the price was high on the studio till I watched the video. It's interesting for sure, nice to see them stepping up in all honesty. I'll never switch back to windows though. I still think competition is a good thing.
 
What is the keyboard like on the Surface Book? I've never seen one in person, but if Apple stick with butterfly keys, I'll be looking for a Windows laptop when my rMBP dies.

I have the Surface Book and absolutely love the keyboard. I can fly on that thing. I've always been a huge Mac fan, and while I prefer Mac OS currently, I needed both tablet and laptop type functionality when I purchased back in June 2016 and couldn't justify dropping $1500 on an MBP that had such outdated internals.
 
I'm just wondering since this is a Microsoft owned product, is the Windows OS upgrade free?
 
yes, but this excuse is wearing thin...

Maybe a little thin, but I still have a much better experience on my macbook pro with Sierra than my gaming rig with W10. There's still weird crashes and driver issues galore. I'm not sure if those will ever go away.
 
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I'll gladly buy one of these if they sold it as a stand-alone monitor. I have a kickass PC built running 2x 4K displays.

It runs Windows and I love it.

You know what the greatest thing about it? I can pick and choose whichever latest and greatest hardware I want to put in it. I figure that might be a new concept to some of you.

nVidia GTX 1080? No problem.
 
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I wonder about how many of the "but it runs Window" folks have been on Windows in the past several years.

While I love MacOS, I am an avid gamer and use both Boot Camp and a dedicated PC regularly. I certainly don't hate Windows 10, it is a very competent system. Some things are a little schizophrenic where it feels like older Windows and new Windows are kludged together, but overall the experience using Windows is pretty pleasant.

I have two riMacs and I was more than a little intrigued with the surface studio. Too bad MacOS isn't touch aware. I might consider trying to Hackintosh this thing if it was.
 
Last year's GPU's at today's prices. I guess Microsoft is learning from Apple lol
For a $3000 machine pushing that many pixels couldn't Microsoft at least put in a 1070?

At least the 13" Surface Book's 965M will be faster than the rumored m460 that will be in the rMBP 15
Yeah? What could Apple do? What about Mac Pro?
 
the last comparison of the Apple Pencil vs MS Pen seemed to show lag issues with MS
Panos made it a point to show off the zero lagging with the pen. Being a demonstration, you need to take that with a grain of salt, but they did push how quick it was.

Do you still need Norton?
I haven't used Norton in decades, I had to google it, just to see if they're still around
 
Agreed, I felt making the iMac thinner was just to make it thinner and uneeded, but this, well this is different and its form and function

That's because Apple is designing the computer into the display unlike the base which they did with the iMac I believe in the early 2000s.

I question how practical it really is to lower the display and draw at those awkward angles like MS is showing in their video, but it's a very nice addition. It makes the iMac look outdated. Still, I don't think I'd want the computer built into the base unless it was to add this kind of functionality.


I can't believe how tempting MS has made this, but it's awful pricy. $3,000 for only 8GB of RAM and now pure SSD offering. Still, innovation wise, it's a notch above the iMac (aside from the 5K screen).
 
That's not a clone in appearance or features.
If you can't see the appearance borrowed from the iMac I don't know what to tell you. Their entire line is Apple color-schemed now. They're clearly trying to match Apple's aesthetics. Don't be silly.
 
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People just want a reliable, well designed pro computer. 16gb ram doesn't cut it anymore.

Since when?

I've put a lot of study and testing into RAM usage on machines for different workloads. The average who does web browsing and facebook, can live comfortably off 4 (if they don't use Chrome). 6-8 is recommended.

Gaming requires min 8 in this day of age. But rarely do games go beyond the 8 *there are a few who benefit from more*

The only people who are pushing 16gb are those who use a Virtual Machines. Or high end content creation. most Amateur / casuall use cases will be more than fine on 8gb, and 16 will likely be more than sufficient. The only people who really will take advantage of 16gb or more today are developers and those who regularly run a lot of VM's

oh, and a few users of Adobe creative suit

So your statement is fundamentally false.
 
All devices look beautiful! I am a fan. I don't much care for windows 10 but it isn't bad. I am pretty tied to the mac ecosystem because of software so Ill be getting a mac book pro tomorrow.
 
What is the keyboard like on the Surface Book? I've never seen one in person, but if Apple stick with butterfly keys, I'll be looking for a Windows laptop when my rMBP dies.

The butterfly keys are actually very nice!
 
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That's because Apple is designing the computer into the display unlike the base which they did with the iMac I believe in the early 2000s.
Yeah, I loved the G4 lamp iMac, I think if Apple went back to have the computer component in a base, they could do some amazing designs and maybe because of what MS is doing, we'll see some major updates to the iMac
 
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