Microsoft Announces Surface Book i7, Desktop PC 'Surface Studio,' and Windows 10 Creators Update

[lincolntran]

As long as it runs windows...it's a deal breaker for me. Maybe it'll take a second look when Windows reach version 15 or something. As of now, it still feels like a beta os for me

In the other hand, I'm surprised nobody complained about the price? Isn't it one of the main things that people complain about Apple products?

 

[jujufreeze]

Haven't lusted after a product like the Studio in a while. If (very) healthy competition doesn't force Apple to innovate for the professional community I don't know what will

 

[whiteboytrash]

If Apple has an answer, it's NOT going to be tomorrow. I don't think the iMac or Mac Pro will be discussed at all, they'll be rolled out in January alongside the new Thunderbolt display....at which point the media will somehow rationalize Apple creating a product in 2 months instead of the months/years of work they've been putting into it.

The surface machines are not released yet, apples will most likely be released tomorrow. What catching up?

 

[\-V-/]

In the other hand, I'm surprised nobody complained about the price? Isn't it one of the main things that people complain about Apple products?

People are complaining about price.

 

[BMcCoy]

To be fair the presentation was really dragged out. The hardware looks great, but it really was a case of using 20 words when 1 would do.

Have you ever heard Tim Cook do an Apple keynote?!

 

[maflynn]

You seriously believe that Microsoft operates on the same intel pipeline that you do? Y

I don't operate on any intel pipeline

 

[2457282]

My first reaction is that the surface studio screen looks fantastic. But the base and dual hinges do not - at all. As in yuk. Also, the last comparison of the Apple Pencil vs MS Pen seemed to show lag issues with MS - has that improved? In any case I do applaud MS for doing something different and not just wholesale copy of Apple. At least they are trying. Now, Apple needs to show us something tomorrow.

 

[PatriotInvasion]

The Surface Studio video is some of the best work I've ever seen from Microsoft. I hope their commitment to innovation pushes Apple to put more focus on the Mac. But, at $3,000 for essentially a new product category heavily targeted at graphic design pros, I don't view this as a true iMac killer.

Also, no USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 seems odd. Legacy MiniDisplayPort and USB-A not ideal to ship in a new product right now as the I/O world transitions to USB-C.

 

[Domen151]

The Studio does not have 1TB SSD. It has a "Rapid hybrid drive"

Oh I did not notice this, on their website I only saw 1TB of SSD, thanks However I still find it more appealing than the iMac...

 

[pat500000]

This is definitely a wake up call for Tim. He ain't going nowhere other than staying inside the Apple hq to push people to hurry up with desktops.
Tim reached his inner self and became super saiyan like dragon ball z character and starter whipping his staff!

(Tim whips his staff like snow dogs)
"Mush! Mush!)

 

[JorgTheElder]

So expensive! I'm used to paying an Apple premium but $3,000 starting price for this thing sounds crazy for what it provides. Even the current 27" iMac is a better value.

ROFL.. yea cause the 27" iMac comes with a 27" touch screen monitor with HD pen support.

 

[Rocketman]

The version with i7, 2TB hybrid drive, 32gb memory and 4GB graphics memory is $4199.

By comparison a MacPro Refurb 3.5Ghz 6 core Xeon E5 (much faster), 16gb memory, and 256GB PCIe Flash storage (much faster), and 3GB of VRAM is only $3399 (no display, wacom)

Used / Refurbished Apple Mac Pro Cylinder Six Core/3.5 GHz

• 32 GB of RAM
• 512 GB internal Solid State Drive
• no keyboard
• Airport Extreme and Bluetooth installed

• Dual AMD FirePro D700 6GB VRAM each
• OS 10.9.5 installed
• MacPro6.1-6: Apple Model No. equivalent: MD878LL/A
• $4319

 

[ob81]

I don't operate on any intel pipeline

Rofl. Exactly! You were cute in your post though!

 

[Return Zero]

Looks nice, but seems a little pricey... Just like the Pixel phone. I'd rather have an iMac 5K, assuming they get refreshed soon. I guess it all depends on if you need the touchscreen or not. For some creatives, this could definitely be the ultimate computer (1060 seems more appropriate GPU tho...?).

 

[LordVic]

I fell asleep twice during the event.

That first hour was an absolute joke. Whoever at Microsoft decided that talking about 3d MSPAINT for 30 minutes would be even remotely interesting is a moron. Should have been 10 minutes TOPS

 

[Lone Deranger]

...meanwhile in Cupertino, a panicked Tim Cook schedules an emergency meeting. "Team.... Microsoft are stealing our thunder! We need more watchbands!!"

 

[Barrierfreeman]

Have you ever heard Tim Cook do an Apple keynote?!

I just lack the courage to face that level of hyperbole.

 

[Dave245]

And people said Apple computers were expensive, this thing starts at $2,999 and doesn't even include the extras such as that weird Surface dial thing (it costs an extra $100). I don't think Apple will follow suit, they have said in the past that they don't want or believe in using touch for a desktop and or Mac OS.

 

[melendezest]

This is on par with, if not better than, some of Apple's best product introduction videos.

For those who simply dismiss this out of hand, get your head out of your ass.

THIS.

I cannot remember the last time I saw an Apple keynote or commercial that made me go: "I want that!"

I'm not kidding, this thing is spectacular. I really, really want it, and I'm not an artist. If my daughter sees this, I'll be $3k poorer really soon.

Microsoft has succesfully reimagined my favorite Mac of ALL time: the iMac G4, with a whole crapload of innovation thrown in.

Apple, WTF???

I want a device just like this FROM YOU. 10 years AGO.

But I'm not waitin'....

 

[The Weatherman]

Surface Studio, the desktop Apple should have announced tomorrow (sic)

 

[BenTrovato]

The surface does look interesting. Gotta say kudos to Microsoft for trying very hard to provide customers with something substantial. Prices are a bit high though. It's as if their trying to recoup they're windows sales through over priced hardware.

 

[LimerickRunner]

Gorgeous machine with outstanding design and innovation, the Surface Dial is genius..

 

[duervo]

So expensive! I'm used to paying an Apple premium but $3,000 starting price for this thing sounds crazy for what it provides. Even the current 27" iMac is a better value.

That will the be the most popular barrier to entry for these products. The Surface Book "with Performance Base" (/facepalm to that name) is over $3000 CDN for the base spec, and it only has an NVIDIA 965m. They should've delayed it until they could put a 10xx series in it. At this time, no portable Windows system with a dGPU is worth it at these prices if it is being sold with a 9xx series NVIDIA GPU in it.

I was hoping they'd slightly reduce the price of the Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book with the release of the next refresh, but ... nope. Instead, they released the new product at an even higher cost of entry, and put last gen GPU in it. They aren't following Apple's lead on just the design and aesthetics of these things.

The Surface Studio cost is more justifiable though. I can see myself getting one of those way before I'd ever consider a Surface Book. The Surface Dial just gives it even more of an edge over anything else.

 

[BMcCoy]

Kudos to Microsoft for innovating.
But my sense is the $3000 starting price tag almost guarantees this thing will fail.

It is expensive. Very expensive.

But the best thing about competition is that it pushes everyone forward.
Even if this product doesn't sell well (and actually I think it WILL do well) it'll give other companies - like Apple - a kick!

 

[K.Haderach]

Do you still need Norton?