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Microsoft Attempting to Lure Away Apple Retail Store Staff?
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No, no, no... Apple biogenetically produced their employees in test tubes. They were created from Steve Jobs DNA.
Potential "switchers"/defectors need to consider the very real possibility that while the paycheck might be bigger for awhile, they might not have the job for long. Microsoft won't keep the stores going forever if it's not making any money. The switcher loses his job and then won't be rehired back at the Apple store.
Just like when Apple re-hired Steve Jobs when Apple was on the brink of bankruptcy 10 years ago? Where's Steve now? Yeah...still employed.
Your statement MAY be true for a small percentage of businesses and/or situations, but MOST businesses don't hire you to fix a problem and then FIRE you a year later or ASAP after the problem is fixed. That just doesn't make sense...reward someone by firing them...and then what...go back to the "old way" and have the company fail again?
Why bother with a separate site? All the PC people are here on the MacRumors board, singing Lord Ballmer's praises, astroturfing the latest Zune device and raging against the Great Glowing Fruit. They hates itsssss....
Agreed. Macrumors has all the PC and Mac rumors in one TERRIFIC site. It covers the latest ipod's, zunes, Windows OS, Mac OS, Apple Stores, Microsoft stores. Who needs to go anywhere else?
LOL! You're right, I didn't. Props to TheGoldenMacKid.
(I've learned not to click links after one too many Goat-se/Tub Girl/2 Girls 1 Cup experiences... *shudder*)
And this is based on whose opinion? Most rationale individuals have the ability to make up their own minds and not just act like drones that are told what they should think. If you ACTUALLY read some reviews on it, you would find that it is getting very positive feedback. Though nothing beats hands on experience. Would you buy a car based on reviews without test driving it? who am i kidding, if apple made one of course you would....
Has it ever crossed your mind that the touch only appeals to certain users? Take for example Audiophiles, they would never touch an Ipod touch, if you actually did you research you would find that the touch is one of the worst sounding MP3 devices. The original zune was known for its sound quality.
That people have such strong negative reactions to this practice is funny (funny actually meaning sad). I also like the proponents of the mega corporation restricting the freedom of movement among its employees. I would have hoped that such pro-corporation drivel would have at least slowed given the state of the economy.
The vast majority of companies (yes, including Apple) have no loyalties to their employees. You will be fired as business circumstances dictate. It is just plain silly to stay at a company out of some notion of loyalty if there is a better opportunity to be found elsewhere.
The vast majority of companies (yes, including Apple) have no loyalties to their employees. You will be fired as business circumstances dictate. It is just plain silly to stay at a company out of some notion of loyalty if there is a better opportunity to be found elsewhere.
The market has spoken. Actually, the market has already been saturated. The PMP market is now on the downward slide. Apple harvested the crop and now Microsoft is showing up a year later to pick up the scraps.
The point is not whether the Zune HD is a good device for what it is. The point is that what it is is not what people are looking for going forward. It's a product for yesterday's market. Typical Microsoft "Hey, we want some of that!" and then showing up when everyone else is packing up and turning off the lights.
And we can argue about it all day, but ultimately the sales numbers will do the talking. And I can't imagine the Zune HD will sell in numbers worth talking about. Only time will tell.
Ah, the audiophile PMP market. Why, that ought to net Microsoft hundreds of Zune HD sales!
How amazingly hard of a concept is it to accept that someone might use both a PC and a Mac? Some get really crazy and run both OS on a mac...WOW!
Though the iPod touch is an amazing gaming platform, some of us might just hang onto our PCs for our gaming needs.
imagine you work for apple store...
1. you go to work for MS store...
2. get a wintel on your hands... yuck!
3. become miserable selling these things... knowing that you are lying sometimes... (MS products are _not_ the best)
4. need therapy because you cannot sleep at night, you're so miserable...
5. sometimes you go to back to the apple store to remember how it was...
6. you even help folks at the apple store for free, it is your hobby...
7. PoP, you wakeup, it was only a nightmare.... you do not even work at the apple store...
Disclaimer: any similarity with real folks or with reality at large is purely coincidental.
1. you go to work for MS store...
2. get a wintel on your hands... yuck!
3. become miserable selling these things... knowing that you are lying sometimes... (MS products are _not_ the best)
4. need therapy because you cannot sleep at night, you're so miserable...
5. sometimes you go to back to the apple store to remember how it was...
6. you even help folks at the apple store for free, it is your hobby...
7. PoP, you wakeup, it was only a nightmare.... you do not even work at the apple store...
Disclaimer: any similarity with real folks or with reality at large is purely coincidental.
Yeah, just like me!
But I don't camp the Windows-oriented forums to talk about how much I hate Microsoft. Apparently that's the difference.
Hey, we're just going on track records. the Zune, WinMo, Pink or whatever, The Windows Marketplace (or is the Zune market?), etc.
When it comes to the consumer sphere, MS usually has its head way up its ass. What would you have us expect *this time* around?
As it stands now, the Zune HD's positioning is potentially more confusing than MS' mobile "strategy."
Always funny when a Fanboy is proven wrong in one of there points they come up with a lame excuse.
never mind the fact that person after person has pointed out that what Microsoft is doing is a standard practice done by multiple companies including apple.
It is a safe bet when Apple started their stores they stole mangers from other electronic stores. Same as microsoft is doing. People are making a huge deal because Apple stores happen to be one of them.
This is normal just the fanboys and media try to make a big deal out of nothing and refuse to report the truth that it is a standard practice. I mean they know fanboys will rant and rave over it. Easy add sells playing off the stupidity of people out there.
Why doesn't Microsoft do what they always do : Hire India
As opposed to hiring China like Apple?
For all those people saying MS's version of a Genius Bar would be ridiculous because of all the problems - not really. Think about whether more is known about widespread diseases or uncommon ones
Apple is easily snowed under with problems - just look at the Apple discussion boards - and most of the time they ignore them. Which is why they have customers fixing their keyboards with bits of foil, purposely dropping ipods to make them work and endless other stupid fixes. They ignore widespread problems unless they are leaked into the media. Yes, there are far fewer problems overall, but that's in part to do with the customer base being 95% smaller.Let's not forget the vast majority of Windows users aren't that experienced. They can type, visit a website, and copy and paste. Of course there are going to be more issues compared to so many Apple users being IT professionals, software engineers, highly skilled designers etc. I've had Windows machines still going that have been around for years without any problems. Most of the people with problems are downloading dangerous things, don't have (free) anti-virus software or just basically have no clue.
And let's not forget the prices...for $2000 I can have a computer with hardly any compatible software for 5 years that becomes severely outdated by that point...or for $2000 I could buy two top-spec PCs a couple of years apart and enjoy the latest technology all the time.
Oh yeah! I remember that now! Wasn't that back in like 1999?
Jesus, like everybody is saying, you have to get people who are passionate about your brand.
They're working there, not just for the money, but also because they like what they do.
They enjoy doing what they do, and will always try their hardest.
That's what most Apple Stores I've been to are all about.
That's completely different, you're talking about the top of the business where the attention is focused (in Jobs's case). Of course he won't be fired because he's got the charismatic/media position and is the figure the fanboys look up to. Without him, Apple would have to double their marketing budget
Once a project is done or a problem fixed, a photographer or web designer or upper manager or whoever will be fired, end of. Unless they can prove they're worth the money. In my old place, they fired the IT and e-business director on a $200,000 salary once the ten websites had been completed. They had minions to keep the sites running and they didn't need anyone else. They hired people to consult and write copy and everything else because it was cheaper than ousourcing and then made them 'redundant'. It's a cheap way to do things.
Fixing a problem often means it stays fixed, so why would the person be needed?
I am actually hoping for quality products to compete with the ipods so apple can get off their ass and start innovating instead of just preaching about it. Look at the september ipod keynote, damn lame from a hardware point of view, they just pushed the cash cow that is the app store. I am hoping that the Zune HD does well so apple starts bring some real innovation back to ipods instead of capacity bumps.