better watch the ipod intoduction again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0SVBCJqLs
as well as the first ever iphone intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp-rbC__JtY&feature=PlayList&p=C9348F95CC3C04AF&index=0
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Microsoft Attempting to Lure Away Apple Retail Store Staff?
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better watch the ipod intoduction again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0SVBCJqLs
as well as the first ever iphone intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp-rbC__JtY&feature=PlayList&p=C9348F95CC3C04AF&index=0
It's not poaching: employees should work for the employer that offers them the best deal: pay, benefits, hours, working conditions, job satisfaction, etc. All MS is doing is saying, "Come to work for us, and we offer you X that we think is an improvement over Apples Y package." If an employee thinks X > Y, he should change jobs (he should consider the totality of X and Y!).
Remember that if sales fall in an Apple retail store, it is unlikely Apple would show extreme loyalty: they'd have a layoff like everyone else. MS is not different.
MS is looking for the best qualified employees. And if Apple employees are able to create a successful retail experience, I'd want to hire them, too!
Because Apple NEVER poaches from other companies? http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/11/04papermaster.html
The fact this is 'news' is a joke. Every company does this from sales staff to VP positions.
And really a NDA? For minimum wage staff? Seriously?
The fact this is 'news' is a joke. Every company does this from sales staff to VP positions.
And really a NDA? For minimum wage staff? Seriously?
Wow you clearly do not understand the smart phone market do you.
When Apple released the iPhone smart phones were starting to take off. They just timed it with the Smart phone wave. Also there were touch screens that did not relay on a styal. Just back when the iPhone first came out multi-touch was still a brand new technology so again timing there of new tech.
The smart phones that started the change I would hand that credit to Samsung and Pantech. Samsung brought the Blackjack out in what 2002ish and you hand the Pnatech Duo which both were very popular phones. Not bad for to phones that lack the ablity to get media hype along with all the free advertising that hype brings with it.
RIM bread and better is still the same great designed dating back to the Curve 8300. The 8900, the Bold, Tour and now the Onyx all are based on that very nice designed.
The storm while a nice phone is not as well loved as the curve design.
One fact that has to be remember is apple always get lots of media hype. Apple could release dog crap paint it white and release it. It would recieve huge amount of hype and it saying how great it was. Strip away the media hype from the iPhone and you start seeing the real facts.
Didn't Tim come from Compaq?
It's all the media's fault then? They cattle heard people through the doors of the retail stores, they forced people to sign AT&T contracts…
Really? You really believe this?
Why weren't they successful in getting people to buy G4 cubes and why Apple have as yet been unsuccessful with the Apple TV.
Oh yeah! I remember that now! Wasn't that back in like 1999?
Jesus, like everybody is saying, you have to get people who are passionate about your brand.
They're working there, not just for the money, but also because they like what they do.
Rubbish. I'm very lucky to have a good job doing something I love, I'm extremely passionate about doing a good job and corny as it sounds "making a difference", but believe me when I say that if I won big time on the lottery this weekend I'd totally quit monday morning. Sane people work to live, they don't live to work. If we're lucky we get to work at something we enjoy, but we have to work at something.
I see what you mean, but how is working for Microsoft comparable to winning the lottery?
I hope they do get a big raise; they're going to need it when they're out of a job in a year or two.
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,may be because apple has done so well, they want tips
say that again in a year or two when they are doing a fine job and at the same line as apple was in its first and second year of having a retial store.
We work to get the things we enjoy. Yes, most of us have to pay bills first, but most of us here work for we can buy those apple products we seem to be all obessed with after those bills are paied off. With out a job, how can we get them.
I know that minimum wage varies a lot by city/state, but when I started there part-time awhile ago, part-timers started at a little more than 2x the minimum wage, and full-timers got benefits + a quite a bit more than part-timers. Regardless of the wage, all employees had varying access to Apple proprietorial information, thus the NDA. Make sense?
its like with me at Target do you think I know everything thats going on? No. I don't know where new stores are going to be poping up, new items, new products or changes with in the compney.
just because you work for a compney does not mean you know or need to know everything
just because you work for a compney does not mean you know or need to know everything
What A Joke
A decent manager selling great products may look like and perform like a great manager.
However, when the same manager is lured away to sell crap, he will look like a bozo selling crap.
Uh, good luck with that!!!
A shiny wrapper on a turd cannot hide the fact that it is a....brown Zune.
A decent manager selling great products may look like and perform like a great manager.
However, when the same manager is lured away to sell crap, he will look like a bozo selling crap.
Uh, good luck with that!!!
A shiny wrapper on a turd cannot hide the fact that it is a....brown Zune.
And especially experience with Apple-style retail, if the story is to be believed.
Hmmm.
Maybe Microsoft is planning on selling last year's hardware, with a surfacely stylish design, and flashy but crippled UI, at prices double their actual value, in order to fill their coffers with money that stockholders will never see?
Aha. NOW it all makes sense!
Seriously, anyone who's worked knows that people leave their jobs for better (and/or better paying) jobs all the time. And yeah, the new store in town always tries to get people from their competitors.
<cough> Walmart </cough>
(been my opinion long before I started working at Target)
"Cook also spent 12 years with IBM, most recently as director of North American Fulfillment where he led manufacturing and distribution functions for IBMs Personal Computer Company in North and Latin America. "
Courtesy of Apple.com
Read the posts before that, rather just come in the thread and see a post and respond. Sometimes the answers are right in front of you
You're something else. You have no idea how the world works. Apple didn't change anything. Apple took ideas that were already their and made it hip and cool. Appstores were around before Apples, Smartphones were around before Apples, in fact if anything we owe our thanks to the people who kept Unix alive and well. Without them, there would be no OSX, and Apple would be back to its god aweful OS9 days. Get of the Apple high horse because its a long fall.
Apple stated in the keynote that I posted few posts up that there were other smart phones, but they "were harder to use, and had plastic keyboards that bwere there weather or not you used them"
same with the ipod.
So theres your answer MorphingDragon. Those keynotes that I posted provide answers to what is said in this post.
Sad I had to actully tell you instead of you figuring it out on your own
My reply was directed to LTD. You don't have to tell me I was with the Company when the iPhone was released (still have my and use my Apple provided phone.)
So how does the world work? Apple fixed the industry. It's that simple. They did to smartphones what they did to mp3 players.
Apple didn't just make smartphones "hip" and "cool." Apple made them usable, powerful, and relevant. We can get into an infinite regression and go back to the horse and buggy, if you like. But really, the reason we have HTC devices running Android is because of Apple. The reason we have the Pre is because of Apple. The reason we have capacitive touchscreen as the new standard is because of Apple. The reason MS went back to the drawing board with WinMo is beacuse of Apple. The reason we actually have a usable App Store that people want to develop for is because of Apple. The reason we're enjoying rich multimeida content on smartphones today (and some stlll can't manage it) is because of Apple.
Compare the smartphone industry pre-iPhone to post-iPhone. There's a galaxy of difference. And no, I don't buy the "we were were moving in that direction anyway" argument. It took Apple to show everyone the way, and some *still* can't get their act together. At best, the indusrty was stumbling toward more button-festooned, bad-screened, stylus-based devices with horrible OSes.