Honestly, this is very complimentary to Apple indeed. But is it necessary? Apple sells because of it's products and how it's consumer-centric. If MS really want to hurt Apple, hire Steve Jobs, Jonny Ive and Phil Schiller!
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Microsoft Attempting to Lure Away Apple Retail Store Staff?
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I didn't say that Apple's goal wasn't to make money. But what I did say was that the people that work for Apple Retail work there for one of a few reasons:
(1) They are passionate about Apple as a brand, and what it stands for.
(2) They work for Apple just to acquire a paycheck.
(3) A combination of both.
I like to believe that the majority of Apple's employees go for No. (3). It's true that some of the employees there only work at Apple for the paycheck -- those are usually the associates involved when you hear about the rare, bad experiences at the Apple Store. And more than likely, if anyone was to leave Apple for Microsoft, it'd be these people.
But those who are so passionate about Apple, that even their lives are affected to the point that they'd always stand up for it, it's those people that Microsoft wants. And simply put, they won't get them -- because these people care about Apple more so than perhaps anything else.
That's pretty good. I could see Hodgman repeating everything until Mac says without crashing and viruses then making a sour face and walking off.
To the people who move I wish the well. These are not well paying jobs and if they can get a little more salary God bless them.
It really does show that Steve was right when he said that MS has no taste. This is not a slur, just a description. They don't know what to do so they copy Apple. Imagine that, billions of dollars in the bank, money is no object, and they can't think of anything original to do. How sad. What fun is that?
It does support another comment further upstream. MS is not a retail firm. Their main customers are corporations and IT departments. This whole retail thing is not their core business, perhaps that is why they are bungling it. Balmer and his pals got pissed off about Apple's visibility so they decided to blow a billion or so on this venture and have some fun harassing Apple.
If it were me, I might take the bigger paycheque then casually say to every customer I help things like...
hmm, I never saw a problem like this when I worked with Macs, hang on while I work it out...
I'd recommend the MacBoo.... ehh I mean this Dell...
Or the like the Volkswagen advert in the UK 'this cars just like a Golf'
And Windows 7 can do this, just like a Macs have for years...
Probably get sacked after a while though, maybe Apple would take me back for showing loyalty
hmm, I never saw a problem like this when I worked with Macs, hang on while I work it out...
I'd recommend the MacBoo.... ehh I mean this Dell...
Or the like the Volkswagen advert in the UK 'this cars just like a Golf'
And Windows 7 can do this, just like a Macs have for years...
Probably get sacked after a while though, maybe Apple would take me back for showing loyalty
I was talking about the world in general, like for instance, the REAL world, where all this happens to be taking place.
Which were actually stolen from Apple's Desk Accessories 28 years ago.
Main Differences:
Konfabulator - self-contained JavaScript runtime engine, based on SpiderMonkey (the open source JavaScript engine from the Mozilla Project) Konfabulator UI layouts are specified in a custom XML format: Konfabulator = (Custom XML format) + (Custom JavaScript engine)
Dashboard - based on WebCore. Dashboard widgets are specified using HTML and CSS, using the same rendering engine as Safari - they are little floating Web Kit views, with a much smaller memory footprint. Dashboard is an extension of Mac OS X system-level technologies: Web Kit for layout and scripting; Exposé for the Dashboard window layer; and Cocoa for advanced functionality. Konfabulator isn’t a product, it’s a platform, and does nothing other than provide an environment and API for widgets. It was a closed platform, without an IDE, and wouldn't have been able to be integrated into the system as Dachboard was. They may look similar, but they do entirely different things.
"Developers, developers, developers, developers..."
In all honesty I don't know why people bitch about the two companies. Windows and OSX aren't even in competition with each other. Apple & Microsoft don't really give a crap about their customers. They, like all for profit companies, just want money, not your blessing.
I beg to differ. The kids who don't know anything about Apple work for the money. The people who are passionate about Apple work for their favorite fruit company -- and the salary is a nice benefit.
Why not Steve and Johnathan?
While they are at it, why don't Microsoft just poach Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ives? That way they could have a company with the design and innovation talents that they are so desperately lacking.
They have ripped off, copied and generally plagiarised the only decent parts of their software. So why not just go for the kill?
If Microsoft could actually do something original for once, people may have a little more respect for them.
While they are at it, why don't Microsoft just poach Steve Jobs and Jonathan Ives? That way they could have a company with the design and innovation talents that they are so desperately lacking.
They have ripped off, copied and generally plagiarised the only decent parts of their software. So why not just go for the kill?
If Microsoft could actually do something original for once, people may have a little more respect for them.
Which were actually stolen from Apple's Desk Accessories 28 years ago.
Main Differences:
Konfabulator - self-contained JavaScript runtime engine, based on SpiderMonkey (the open source JavaScript engine from the Mozilla Project) Konfabulator UI layouts are specified in a custom XML format: Konfabulator = (Custom XML format) + (Custom JavaScript engine)
Dashboard - based on WebCore. Dashboard widgets are specified using HTML and CSS, using the same rendering engine as Safari - they are little floating Web Kit views, with a much smaller memory footprint. Dashboard is an extension of Mac OS X system-level technologies: Web Kit for layout and scripting; Exposé for the Dashboard window layer; and Cocoa for advanced functionality. Konfabulator isnt a product, its a platform, and does nothing other than provide an environment and API for widgets. It was a closed platform, without an IDE, and wouldn't have been able to be integrated into the system as Dachboard was. They may look similar, but they do entirely different things.
"Developers, developers, developers, developers..."
Dear God.
I guess it's just that some people are insecure and need to feel part of Apple itself, they forget they just actually buy/use/like their products. Both companies are going to be around for a long time yet, whatever the other one does. Nothing's going to spoil the end-user experience so if people really want to do something Apple, then they should just chill.
I find it incredible that MS puts so much effort into competing with Apple. Apple only have, what 8% of the computer market? The only thing I think that MS will be trying to focus on is the Zune and X Box. Other than those two devices MS is a software manufacturer as others have said. So their store would have to be filled with other makes of computer.
Maybe they are getting Mac employees because they are going to sell Apple products with Boot Camp Windows!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgriTO8UHvs&NR=1
Maybe they are getting Mac employees because they are going to sell Apple products with Boot Camp Windows!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgriTO8UHvs&NR=1
Ripping off the person that ripped off you doesnt count?
(WIndows 7 steals from KDE 4 which stole from Windows)
Nearly all contracts of employment (especially management) open you being sued if you do this.
That is certainly the case in the UK.
I dont like MS either......but come on, you can't ignore that $150+ million that MS put into Apple in 1997, even if it was a strategic business move....
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/08/opinion/the-apple-of-microsoft-s-eye.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/08/opinion/the-apple-of-microsoft-s-eye.html
What the hell does that have to do with anything? Keep in mind that Apple also made some arrangements with Microsoft during that deal. It was a mutual agreement.
The REAL world... would that be the one where Microsoft actually thinks this retail store 'idea' of theirs is going to work?
Oh, and Apple's after MONEY too, they've just been better at marketing their products for the past 8-9 years (which is why so many of you feel so connected to the brand), though they're still far behind MS in terms of market share. And any logical/reasonable person would realize that it's in their best interest to take a higher paying job, excluding those...."loyalists." You wanna talk about companies that really take care of their employees....think Google, eBay, RedBull....
Yeah, if only MS listened to people like us rather than their own highly experienced and qualified business analysts and consultants, they might be a successful company today rather than a two-bit software outfit that no-ones heard of.
It doesn't matter that they helped save Apple from near collapse, even if they had profit to gain from the deal? Mutual or not, the point is that they were essentially bailed out by, yes, MS....
Now, no doubt trying to snatch employees is low....but then again, isn't this the mediocre/melancholy/unoriginal MS that we've always been used to?