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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Officially Opens CES, Briefly Demos Forthcoming HP Slate

mdntcallr said:
HP choosing Slate as a name is clearly them staking ground on an name which Apple may have been planning to use. ie iSlate. which they bought the domain and company of. as well as trademark.

HP is a notoriously nasty company to deal with behind the scenes. they only care about themselves, never ever any partners or outside companies. HP's corporate environment is really just about devouring any of their vendors and development partners.

At any steps along the way, they will try to co-opt opportunities for themselves and steal ideas or even entire businesses and models. they assume it is less costly to defend lawsuits than to pay for things or deal with partners. well except maybe a company like microsoft.

anyway... just my 2 cents.
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You just described Google.:eek:
 
guet said:
You mean an OS based on Mac OS X, and adapted for a touch screen interface, which was not created with keyboard or stylus input in mind, and which is cut down to run on less powerful processors and provide long battery life on a portable device? An OS like Mobile OS X?

As far as I'm concerned the worst thing about the HP slate is that it runs full Windows, with all the problems that brings. Even Ballmer had trouble using it in his keynote. Glomming on some touch-screen gestures to a desktop OS does not make for a satisfying experience with a mobile device, and leaves you with interfaces designed for something else entirely.

Perhaps you want more control over which apps you can install, or have other criticisms of iPhone OS (fair enough, as far as they go), but don't imagine for a minute that desktop apps can magically be ported to a portable device with the same interface and behaviour without producing a sucky device full of compromises. Better to be using iPhone apps on a bigger screen (with a tweaked UI), than desktop apps on a smaller screen, and if you disagree with (say) app store policy, disagree with that, rather than demanding something that cannot work.

If you want a full desktop experience on a portable, just buy one of those hideous frankentablets which has a keyboard or a netbook and be done with it. It's all about the interface, which is something you completely miss when talking about a 'true' OS.
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I do want a full Mac OS X on a device as small as possible (like the OQO with just 5-inches) and as light as possible (as the IMID M2 mBook or now the new UMID mBook BZ with just 315 g). Because it is NOT to work on it. It is just and only to save to it the NATIVE Apple Keynote (.key) and Microsoft PowerPoint (.ppt) presentation files, and carry it in the pocket to the room with the video projector for the video presentation. With video-out for the videoprojector cable and with USB ports for the wireless remote and USB stick. No more, no less. Price? I does not matter. Because even the MacBook Air is too large and too heavy?
 
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I get it. I'm new so I get the learn to spell. Fair enough. Couldn't possibly be a type-o...

Innovators.

Thank you for your kind correction.
 
And another thing...

Forgive me if someone's already said this, but it's curious. Why do all the gadgets he's demonstrating still have the protective plastic films over their screens? :confused: It's quite observable on both the HP tablet/slate and the phone in his pocket - which he pulls out to show off the great screen...
 
coleridge78 said:
They are, in fact, precisely the same form factor and stand. There are an infinite number of ways to design and style the bezel and stand. If you don't see that those two look the same in a way in which the following (for example) don't, you're a liar:

http://www.theinquirer.net/img/1177/dell_monitor.jpg

http://benchmarkreviews.com/images/reviews/monitors/Samsung_245BW/Samsung_SyncMaster_245BW_Back.jpg
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Ok, we have the iMac G5:

imac_g5.jpg


The HP w2207h:

HP_W2207h.jpg


And another generic monitor:

NEC_MultiSync_LCD1565_R_Refurbished_Factory_Recertified_Black_and_Silver_Monitor-resized200.jpg



...and your claim is that the HP is a rip-off of the G5 iMac? Even the current iMac's stand doesn't offer height adjustment like the HP monitor's stand, so your claim that they are "precisely the same stand" is incorrect. You're ridiculous.
 
Here's a summary of the first 16 pages for everyone who is just joining the conversation and is too lazy to read them all.

  • Microsoft sucks
  • The HP slate is a copy from the Apple iSlate
  • No, the Apple slate doesn't and won't exist
  • Apple FTW. The iSlate is going to be a hit even if it is not.. Huh??
  • Steve Jobs is dead and Ballmer ate him
  • Ballmer was dressed like a golf retirement community network administrator
  • The iSlate will run iPod OS
  • The iSlate will run full OS X
  • What can the iSlate do?
  • All of this: insert pink elefants and unicorns here..
  • Repeat the above.
 
I know it's pobably not going to be able to run PS or Illustrator but would it be too much to ask to include the capability to connect it to your lap/desk top as a drawing tablet? Either through wifi or cable.
 
JohnDoe98 said:
Agreed SDKing the Apple TV and allowing the ipod/iphone/islate to be the controller is the best idea I've heard in a while and could actually make Apple compete with game consoles as well as add huge interest in the Apple TV generally (just think of the possibilities). I wonder to what extent their distribution contracts with the movie and tv studios is what has prevented that from happening so far.

Make it happen by pestering Apple to do so. Go to and tell them you want it:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/appletv.html
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I rack my brain trying to figure out how they have dropped the ball so immensely on this! I am hoping they will surprise this year once the iSlate is out and the TV subscriptions debut with an Apple TV hardware refresh. But WOW they are really missing the boat now as all these companies are already announcing similar efforts at CES! :(
 
Adokimus said:
...and your claim is that the HP is a rip-off of the G5 iMac? Even the current iMac's stand doesn't offer height adjustment like the HP monitor's stand, so your claim that they are "precisely the same stand" is incorrect. You're ridiculous.
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Except, of course, that the HP you just pointed to is not either of the two HPs that were originally pictured in the thread. Nice attempt at deception there. Pathetic.

Of course HP has some other things that are not Apple clones. Their goal is to sell anything to anyone so they cover a very wide variety. That wasn't the issue at hand.
 
The one thing that MS didn't want has come to pass:

The tech world is now waiting on Apple.
 
coleridge78 said:
Except, of course, that the HP you just pointed to is not either of the two HPs that were originally pictured in the thread. Nice attempt at deception there. Pathetic.

Of course HP has some other things that are not Apple clones. Their goal is to sell anything to anyone so they cover a very wide variety. That wasn't the issue at hand.
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He completely destroyed your argument. So leave the thread now please.
 
eoin3- said:
I know it's pobably not going to be able to run PS or Illustrator but would it be too much to ask to include the capability to connect it to your lap/desk top as a drawing tablet? Either through wifi or cable.
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Using it as a tablet is definite possibility...

But PS is guaranteed as it already runs (albeit in a very rudimentary way) on the iPhone.

I can't wait to start using multi touch music programmes
Sitar-me do!
 
peterdevries said:
Here's a summary of the first 16 pages for everyone who is just joining the conversation and is too lazy to read them all.

  • Microsoft sucks
  • The HP slate is a copy from the Apple iSlate
  • No, the Apple slate doesn't and won't exist
  • Apple FTW. The iSlate is going to be a hit even if it is not.. Huh??
  • Steve Jobs is dead and Ballmer ate him
  • Ballmer was dressed like a golf retirement community network administrator
  • The iSlate will run iPod OS
  • The iSlate will run full OS X
  • What can the iSlate do?
  • All of this: insert pink elefants and unicorns here..
  • Repeat the above.
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Yeah pretty much. MacRumors is a disgrace and gives Apple users a really bad name.
 
Journojulz said:
Using it as a tablet is definite possibility...

But PS is guaranteed as it already runs (albeit in a very rudimentary way) on the iPhone.

I can't wait to start using multi touch music programmes
Sitar-me do!
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JazzMutant already offers multi touch synthesizers. Looks like something cool to play around with..... (I'm not really creative when it comes to music though :-\)

http://www.jazzmutant.com/lemur_overview.php

ArrowSmith said:
Yeah pretty much. MacRumors is a disgrace and gives Apple users a really bad name.
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No no, not really. If you look past the extreme brand loyalist members, you'll see that some people actually bring good information and good arguments. I would say >most< members I've seen in here. Those extreme brand loyalists are almost always the same people.... and they do tend to be louder (er post a lot more) than others.

And yes, I'm using extreme brand loyalist as an euphemism for fanboy.
 
ShiftyPig said:
Slate versus iSlate?

This is getting tedious and the products haven't even hit the market yet.
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Yes, I agree with you 100%. However, I heard that Apple actually owns the islate domain name but HP/Microsoft didn't think to acquire their respective product's domain name.
 
After Microsoft announced the Slate.. It got me wondering, a bit back here in MacRumors it was announced that the Macbook's education discount increased dropping the price to $899

Is it possible the new Tablet could kill the Macbook line, take the name, and sit at the $999 price tag with the discount for the people in college like me?
 
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