Unless it runs full blown OS X, I don't think it will kill the Macbook line.
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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Officially Opens CES, Briefly Demos Forthcoming HP Slate
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Unless it runs full blown OS X, I don't think it will kill the Macbook line.
The slate paradigm (the way Apple will implement it) is designed to eventually kill off all notebooks. That's still a good ways away, though.
Friggin goofballs. HP's not copying Apple, they're copying Motion Computing.
Anyone into tablets knows Motion makes the best slates. Been touch-enabled for at least a couple years already to boot. This is just another slate in a long line of slates running windows. Done just as poorly, unless MS shapes up.
Apple isn't better yet, it's just an unknown, which puts it as more promising than MS.
If Apple makes what Axiotron has spent the last two years working on (look it up) and has yet been unable to bring to market, they'll have something.
Anyone into tablets knows Motion makes the best slates. Been touch-enabled for at least a couple years already to boot. This is just another slate in a long line of slates running windows. Done just as poorly, unless MS shapes up.
Apple isn't better yet, it's just an unknown, which puts it as more promising than MS.
If Apple makes what Axiotron has spent the last two years working on (look it up) and has yet been unable to bring to market, they'll have something.
Same vision.
No hardware keyboard means I'd need pen input. I can't imagine a way to comfortably type on a virtual screen on a flat device like that.
Yes, this would be a great device for the classroom instead of walking around a large campus with 4+ books in a backpack. You can just grad your tablet and be off to class. Also, I remembered that I spent $400+ per semester for
8 semesters which comes to $3200+.
Now, it should be easy for Apple to integrate new content (i.e. e-books) that can be both rented and purchased. They do this now with video. Next, if a student can access university library content via the tablet, it makes being able to go to the library without actually going. I believe Google is currently copying books that are out of print but publishers will have another medium to distribute their books.
Lastly, several universities in the US record videos of the lectures for later review or make the video streams available in realtime. This has the possibility of kicking the schools and universities into the future and I believe seeing many episodes of Star Trek where they used something very similar to a tablet in both the academy and on the various duty stations.
1/27 iBook lives again!!
10 inch "tablet" with resurrected iBook name
"Hybrid" OSX
3g/4G(LTE) compatible
Geared towards Web-based apps and storage
Built-in full components of iLife and possibly MobileMe
GPS
Video iChat
Mutilple ways to intereact:
Can "write" on it with finger, stylus, pen
Can speak with it
Can type on it
$899
See you in March
SJ surprise addition to keynote
10 inch "tablet" with resurrected iBook name
"Hybrid" OSX
3g/4G(LTE) compatible
Geared towards Web-based apps and storage
Built-in full components of iLife and possibly MobileMe
GPS
Video iChat
Mutilple ways to intereact:
Can "write" on it with finger, stylus, pen
Can speak with it
Can type on it
$899
See you in March
SJ surprise addition to keynote
Do a search for tactile feedback on the main page. I'm hoping they integrate one of those patents into the device.
there is some company that does online text books. they cost 80% of the price of a print book and the license expires in a year. from what i read, the students hate them and prefer print copies
keynote
I do feel sorry for Mr. Balmer. He remains waiting for that first epiphanous moment when he will actually have an original thought.
I do feel sorry for Mr. Balmer. He remains waiting for that first epiphanous moment when he will actually have an original thought.
I guess a tablet form factor does have a target audience in the consumer market after all! While I am quite happy with my laptop, those who aren't and want a mac may use a tablet instead. I dunno, personally I find the whole touchscreen thing very fiddly, though the iPhone did cause me to revise that opinion once...
I stand corrected.
I'm looking forward to any tablet release, even if it's a Microsoft iteration. Anything that pushes the envelope in development is a good thing 
Fortunately when you have corporate IT by the shorthairs, you can run your business on cruise control. A business plan so foolproof, even Steve Ballmer can manager it!
You're right, of course. No Mac user "really works" with their computers. Only Windows is capable of "real work."
Enjoy your delusion. Nice to see the Redmond propaganda ray is still working to perfection.
You still have problems understanding the different markets of Microsoft and Apple. Microsoft set up is more for business and everything is geared more to that end.
Apple is gear to the consumer and its products are geared that way. Apple set up for central IT is crap compared to Microsoft. Nothing is wrong with that. It is just the way the companies are focused.
Apple control freak ways are great for consumers and delivering those products. Problem is in all that control there products become very limited in what they can do and a limited product line. Microsoft software is very robusted and can be adapted by the end user to work on just about anything. Apple you are limited to only Apple products.
There are millions of things out there that if you dig into them you will see they are running Microsoft software that was adapted to work on it. DVR are an example. The OS on most DVRs out there is a Microsoft OS adjusted for that. Or you can go with those POS devices a lot of places used for sales staff (like the Apple Store) that is basicly a Mobile verson of Microsoft OS adapted to handle those requirements.
Another huge thing for Microsoft right now on the corpate level is Sharepoint which huge in the IT world and taking off. Now to the end consumer Sharepoint is not very useful and really has no use. But in the bussiness world is where it truly shines and its power really is there.
The list goes on.
A vast Majority of Apple products are aimed with consumer in mind. Apple is damn good at it. The draw back is they are not as good in the enterprise world. Apple dabbles in the enterprise world but really does not focus on it because it would hurt its core to much in the consumer world.
Microsoft on the other hand focuses mainly on the Business world. Most of there products are aimed with businesses being the end user not the consumer. Now they do a little with the consumer market but it is not the focus.
It is a balance point between focusing on the Consumer and the Business market. Apple chooses to focus on the Consumer and it is kill in the consumer world. Microsoft focuses on Business and is king in that world.
Nothing is wrong with it each set up has it advantages. Trying to be dead center for any company would equal death because the respective products would be beat by the experts in each side. Now focuses on one end or the other gives them a nitch. Microsoft is damn good at its nitch and apple is damn good at its nitch. Thing is since Apple is targeting consumers it will be seen in the media more and people know about it. Microsoft is targeting business as the end users so it does not get all the consumer wanted flash and eye candy. Not needed and most of the stuff is under the hood so to speak. The consumer does not care about the under the hood stuff. IT guys do but consumer just wants something that works.
True in the part that he is a bad presenter. Chances are he is a damn good CEO but a bad presenter. Thing is people expect the CEO of companies to talk at these events even if they are bad.
SJ is a rarity and that is he is a good presentor. I also people like to compare it to apple keynots which like the company are more geared at flash and to get the consumers eye. Works great for what they want. Apple's keynots to me are more about advertisements than about showing some things being worked on and new ideas. This keynot was more about showing a new idea and some of the internal workings on things compared to the flash of apple keynots.
Amen, like I 've been saying all along, the ibook lives again! Plus a custom pa semi cpu to blow all the rest away. Good times!
Then maybe MS should just gtfo from the consumer market. Apple knows it doesn't have a big presence in the enterprise, and is very careful and measured in what it tries to do in that area. Apple knows that "failures" in any sector would mean damage to its reputation. Apple is heavy in the consumer end and very light in the enterprise. It'll push its enterprise products now and then but the bulk of its efforts goes into the consumer sector.
MS has no focus. Like a fat old cat its ass spills completely into both the enterprise and the consumer sector, thinking ideas from one end just carry over the same way into the other end. It's sloppy and an insult to the Average User. The problem is (and always was), that Microsoft is just a corporate/enterprise software vendor masquerading as a home/consumer vendor. And it really shows. They don't get the consumer. They don't put any taste, imagination or originality into their products. They assume everyone is an IT manager or hardcore gamer, and speaks to them that way.
They react to eveything and react too late. The slow and predictable works quite well in the enterprise, but is a recipe for (depending on how much money you have to throw at problems) a slow and steady decline in the consumer sector. It's no accident that Apple has been the darling of the tech industry for years now, and MS hasn't. Apple gets the attention, the praise, the monopoly on compliments . . . because they've actually made an effort to earn it.
Hello
First of all, am a macbook pro unibody 17 user and i love my macbook pro!
But sincerly speaking about the iSlate, i just promisse, i will never buy it if:
1.Its not an FULL OSX SYSTEM, not an iPhone OS only, if is Hybride or not i don't care.
2.Its not possible to write on open office, on that device!
3.And of course, if its not possible to design lets say like on a wacom tablet!
So in this case am sure as i readed here, its only about browseing web and book reading, that i will not buy that device.
Instead i will buy more ram and an ssd disk for my macbook pro, would make more sense Greetz
First of all, am a macbook pro unibody 17 user and i love my macbook pro!
But sincerly speaking about the iSlate, i just promisse, i will never buy it if:
1.Its not an FULL OSX SYSTEM, not an iPhone OS only, if is Hybride or not i don't care.
2.Its not possible to write on open office, on that device!
3.And of course, if its not possible to design lets say like on a wacom tablet!
So in this case am sure as i readed here, its only about browseing web and book reading, that i will not buy that device.
Instead i will buy more ram and an ssd disk for my macbook pro, would make more sense
GreetzFirst of all, am a macbook pro unibody 17 user and i love my macbook pro!
But sincerly speaking about the iSlate, i just promisse, i will never buy it if:
1.Its not an FULL OSX SYSTEM, not an iPhone OS only, if is Hybride or not i don't care.
2.Its not possible to write on open office, on that device!
3.And of course, if its not possible to design lets say like on a wacom tablet!
So in this case am sure as i readed here, its only about browseing web and book reading, that i will not buy that device.
Instead i will buy more ram and an ssd disk for my macbook pro, would make more sense
Just wait until the reveal. Dollars-to-donuts you'll come away with a different opinion. This isn't just a tablet offering by Apple. In typical Apple fashion, it's a platform to redefine an entire segment: notebook computing at large. These tablets from Apple will serve as the foundation for the next generation of "portable computing." These will, in time, end up replacing notebooks. Apple's tablet will be good enough to plant that seed in everyone's mind, even if it can't perform all functions of a notebook just yet.
And proof that you know little about the enterprise world. Apple is very careful on any inroads there because it can not risk it finicky consumer market. Comsumers like flash and it takes very little to break there trust.
Business do not care as much if a consumer product fails of one of its vendors.
I suggest you go learn things about Live meeting and sharepoint. both things are huge in Enterprise. Microsoft Enterprise set up is really well done.
Thing you have to remember about enterprise is does not get the media attentions. only die hard geeks and even then a limited number of them know about a lot of that stuff. It is very boring to most people.
Microsoft can go after the consumer market but its hard to change that much focus when they mainly focus on business. now it does takes it deep pockets to do experiments and will do high risk for little reward to see how it pays off.
But like i said before you are more like an Apple troll and really do not bother trying to understand all that. It is bash Microsoft because they are not apple.
Please grow up and learn about it.
No were did I bash Apple short of calling them crap in the Enterprise world which most people accept. Apple does not put much focus there. It focuses on consumers and it does damn good at it.
Hell even you pointed out Microsoft approach to things is great for the enterprise world. My ENTIRE POINT. Microsoft is an enterprise focus company. Apple is a consumer focused company. Apple quick changing kills it to be worth much in enterprise because changing cost to much for businesses. Slow and steady is the way enterprise level IT system work and upgrade.
Doubt it. Even their new All in one PC looks like an iMac...
Until you turn that thing around... then the song, 'Baby's Got Back' comes on... "I like Big Butts and I cannot lie..."
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1r7qc_sir-mix-a-lotbaby-got-back_music
I just saw this image on iTunes movie preview and thought how appropriate it would be to have this movie running on Apple's iSlate and Steve Jobs makes some remarks about what MS & HP previewed at CES, and make some comparisons and have this image on constantly...
Talk about your subliminal messages!
Of course this is a play on the "Twilight" Book Cover on the HP Slate...
Talk about your subliminal messages!
Of course this is a play on the "Twilight" Book Cover on the HP Slate...
I agree with you there, but they could have used the cover for Dan Brown's "The Lost Symbol" instead, and hint at the "hidden" possibilities of the slate for example, instead of showing an image with an apple on it.