You might be right, but I think people making a bid deal out of this are simply looking too hard.
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Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Officially Opens CES, Briefly Demos Forthcoming HP Slate
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You might be right, but I think people making a bid deal out of this are simply looking too hard.
It's awful!
EVERYONE is buzzing about the MS slate. All the news sites have it front page. NYT front page. Every news and opinion show won;t shut up about this MS slate. It's set the world afire.
Nerds are rioting in the street, upset it will take months to release.
GOOD GOD, MS.... you so win.
EVERYONE is buzzing about the MS slate. All the news sites have it front page. NYT front page. Every news and opinion show won;t shut up about this MS slate. It's set the world afire.
Nerds are rioting in the street, upset it will take months to release.
GOOD GOD, MS.... you so win.
I like how you guys talk about MS not getting the consumers while completely ignoring the fact that Xbox 360 has the majority share of active gamers in the US. The end user experience is so good, that even with the RRODs people keep on buying them over and over again. Everyone says that Xbox has one of the best UIs so people who claim MS can't do good UI and user experience are completely wrong.
In fact, I bet a lot of the users here in this threadown an Xbox 360, a MS product. Don't you guys feel dirty giving your money to Microsoft that you like to bash so much? Doesn't that go against your beliefs? Does it hurt you?
In fact, I bet a lot of the users here in this threadown an Xbox 360, a MS product. Don't you guys feel dirty giving your money to Microsoft that you like to bash so much? Doesn't that go against your beliefs? Does it hurt you?
Hehe . . .
Unfortunately that whole "any publicity is good publicity" maxim doesn't always carry over too well into consumer products.
But I love this, because the more talk there is about MS, whether it's positive or just plain old surprise, when Apple reveals their Jesus-tablet it'll be even more of a shock. If the general public thinks about "slate" computing a certain way NOW (after last night), wait until Apple just yanks them in a totally different direction.
Wikipedia says:
Microsoft surface was announced on May 29, 2007...
Apple announced the iPhone on January 9, 2007
I know - this just a little lie, but dangerous and it tells lot about you...
Their console is a hit. That's great. So why is everything else they regurgitate so bad, late, and incredibly boring? Should the "Xbox team" be running the other MS deparments, then? The amount of creative disconnect between MS products (and what seems to be between company divisions) is colossal. Half the problem is incredibly lousy management. The other half is probably a lousy attitude + really low standards that seems to infect the entire organization. What are MS' prioties? Do they realize the consumer market is made up of regular people, not IT managers-in-training?
I wondered about his choice of dress too. I concluded the sweater is woven from Gortex to wick away the moisture that is oozing through the shirt, thus hiding the fact he's sweating like crook at an IRS audit.
Microsoft's priorities are with their business/enterprise software solutions. That is their biggest market, not home users. People here tend to forget that Microsoft is a huge software company and Windows XP/Vista/7 is not their only software product. Occasionally, some here do recognize MS Office.
Everyone has their duds. see AppleTV, no company can pump out success after success.
The Macbook + Xbox 360 trend is disturbingly high around here. I wonder why it's suggested so often.
I just can't afford to give Apple the money for incremental increases in performance. That's why I stick with their notebooks and the 13.3" ones being the best value.
I see LagunaSol has deleted his rant about the Xbox. It must hurt him seeing Xbox, a consumer MS product so succesful
Wikipedia also says:
One can pretty much assume that Microsoft "showed" the surface to partners (under NDA) before the Iphone announcement.
But, yes, the Surface announcement was before the Iphone release but after the demo at MWSF'2007
Yes, you're right. It's just that this apple tablet has been in the rumor channels for so long that almost everybody is waiting for it and naturally, everything that associates an apple and a tablet will seem to make reference to it. But yeah, people are reading too much into it.
Just look at the post below this one to see what I mean.
*yawn* as if anybody cares about the hp tablet when the Internet is holding its breath about the apple tablet. 
A tablet from HP??? I'll pass.
I just finished working on TWO HP Desktops. Both of them had motherboards that were failing. One of them had just been repaired a couple of months ago for the exact same problem.
HP is trash & anything coming from them is pure garbage. It's no surprise that the device was glitchy upon demonstration. Imagine how "glitchy" it will be once you've been using it for a couple of weeks.
I just finished working on TWO HP Desktops. Both of them had motherboards that were failing. One of them had just been repaired a couple of months ago for the exact same problem.
HP is trash & anything coming from them is pure garbage. It's no surprise that the device was glitchy upon demonstration. Imagine how "glitchy" it will be once you've been using it for a couple of weeks.
Unbelievable
I never used this forum to criticize MSoft but today I will do it... I logged on the MSoft web site and watched the video...
I will not criticize the products, I have no clue as to what Windows 7 does or does not. I use Vista on a high end 'engineering' laptop at the office HP Elite Book 8730w dubbed as 'Mobile Workstation' and I use Windows XP on the Desktop. But I redeem myself every evening when I use my MacPro 8 cores, Apple Cinema displays,...)...
I will not criticize the PC onto which the demos were being done...
I will only criticize the delivery: I had the impression to be at a sales car event or worse to see the TV Ads for local car dealership on a local TV station... Don't they have communication classes at Msoft... Steve Ballmer was pathetic! What a way to talk to the world!
I never used this forum to criticize MSoft but today I will do it... I logged on the MSoft web site and watched the video...
I will not criticize the products, I have no clue as to what Windows 7 does or does not. I use Vista on a high end 'engineering' laptop at the office HP Elite Book 8730w dubbed as 'Mobile Workstation' and I use Windows XP on the Desktop. But I redeem myself every evening when I use my MacPro 8 cores, Apple Cinema displays,...)...
I will not criticize the PC onto which the demos were being done...
I will only criticize the delivery: I had the impression to be at a sales car event or worse to see the TV Ads for local car dealership on a local TV station... Don't they have communication classes at Msoft... Steve Ballmer was pathetic! What a way to talk to the world!
Providing people with tech that doesn't come from an IT requisition form for locked down generic boxes running an old version of Windows in what's often an uncomfortable environment, is hardly *stuck.*
It's giving a glass of icewater to people in hell.
Apple's ventures into the enterprise are few and far between, very measured, and very cautious. We barely hear about it, and what does happen in that area is quickly overshadowed by Apple's activities in the consumer sector. MS is able to manage one area, but tries to dominate both, and ends up looking retarded.
Microsoft is listening to people though.
With Apple you're told what you want and what you need.
Snow Leopard is a $29 coaster and I couldn't keep myself from going to Windows 7. Believe me I've been waiting for the next big thing for some time. It hasn't happened yet.
Hey, just have Windows on as many devices as possible (who cares about creating a version appropriate to the device), whatever the outcome, and win on sheer volume of unit sales. Quanity over design and attention to detail. MS doesn't really care about the Average User. It comes through in their awkward, poorly thought out keynotes. MS (ballmer and co.) talks to people as if they were IT managers at a board meeting. Apple talks to people as if they are people.
Been working out great for them, right?
It doesn't take a lot to figure out which is the better way. May Apple continue to not listen to me and instead provide me with amazing products I never knew I wanted.
We see this a lot in the business world. Especially with emerging technologies like App Virtualization. Most of the road Microsoft took with App-V was things they heard from the business units. Many times we have begged Apple for different SLA's and help with our infrastructure but they refuse.
Just like Henry Ford said.
" If I had listened to what people wanted I would have built a better horse carriage".
" If I had listened to what people wanted I would have built a better horse carriage".
I don't know about that - I doubt "hit" should be determined by the amount of financial losses to its creator. The lowly Wii, that everyone laughed off when it was launched, kicked the Xbox to the curb in sales (yet was profitable from day one). I remember one of the MS execs saying that the 360 absolutely had to succeed in Japan or the platform was in big trouble. Well, the 360 is in a distant third place (out of 3) in Japan. I doubt that's the kind of "success" they had in mind.
And good luck competing with the PS3 going forward, now that Sony has matched MS in price, the game catalog has improved vastly, and the PS3 offers superior hardware, including Blu-ray (and free online gaming). MS will have to cut the price again, and the losses will continue.
Microsoft is a corporate bureaucracy at its worst, with no true focus and no real sense of what the consumer wants. They had to copy Nintendo's Mii system and now they're trying to implement motion control (which, again, everyone laughed at when Nintendo launched the Wii).
The Xbox still doesn't completely play well with other Microsoft hardware and software. Even groups within the same division can't get on the same page! Hmmm...
MS is always a day late (but never a dollar short) and completely bereft of original ideas. The corporate culture is just not about creative thinking and never has been (and never will be). They are the Acme Corporation of technology. And hey, that's worked well for them. But maybe they just aren't cut out for the consumer space like they thought they were and should focus on what they're good at - mediocre office computing.