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Blocking full screen? So when a user clicks the green button, the browser doesn’t fill the screen?
When you go to watch a video on any website the full screen button does not work saying your browser does not support full screen. It happens on all third party browsers but when you use Safari the full screen functionality on videos works again.
 
Not sure if anyone else has this problem, but on my Macbook Pro 2016, Safari is unable to play Youtube videos 50% of the time.

All other browsers are able to.

Safari is not amazing for that reason alone.
 
On the Mac have always been a Safari. Used Chrome only for software development ...

Must say that the latest Edge versions are really pulling me to use it. It has basically replaced Chrome for me. When comparing with Safari, if it wasn't that the Keychain is Safari only as well as the integration with both my iPad and iPhone ... I would ditch the thing for it.

Its fast as well. The thing I like the most is the full support for PWA installation as well as being able to turn any web app, even if not a PWA, into an app like experience.

I think Apple has been dragging their feet with full support for PWA and modern web app features ... all to push developers and users to build and user native apps ... meaning use the App Store, meaning shared revenue. It's such a shame that when companies get really big also adopt mundane tactics, less efficient for customers and users if not loosing their visionary and craftsmanship status that lead the to be where they are.
 
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Chromium is the new IE with its monumental share. For good or ill it has created its own variants of interpretation of html just like IE did. Eventually it'll either be the norm that everyone uses in one form or another or something else will disrupt the market and steal away shares. Then we'll be left with a decade of even more incompatibility as legacy things will only work on one and new things work on both until it's unprofitable.
Eventually? Its a Chromium world. Microsoft figured that out. Chrome, Edge, Brave, Vavaldi, Opera. Only FireFox and Safari are hold outs...and they are dropping fast.

I loved Safari on the Mac. They they broke extensions with version 12. I use Ublock and others and Safari does not support them.

I have been using Edge since the beta version and until it does something crazy its my go too. I use profiles quite a bit for work/personal and it works great for that. I am on Mac's most of the time but I do use and have Windows computers as well. One browser syncing across all of that works great. Edge = Chromium compatibility without the Google baked in.
 
Eventually? Its a Chromium world. Microsoft figured that out. Chrome, Edge, Brave, Vavaldi, Opera. Only FireFox and Safari are hold outs...and they are dropping fast.

I loved Safari on the Mac. They they broke extensions with version 12. I use Ublock and others and Safari does not support them.

I have been using Edge since the beta version and until it does something crazy its my go too. I use profiles quite a bit for work/personal and it works great for that. I am on Mac's most of the time but I do use and have Windows computers as well. One browser syncing across all of that works great. Edge = Chromium compatibility without the Google baked in.
It would be nice if Apple got the memo that it is a “Chromium world” and create a Chromium based Safari web browser.
 
a german one - www.ntv.de, failed 17times* - then I switched. I never doubt that maybe the website has errors but Firefox and EVERY Chromium based browser, including edge, showed no problems.

*) using latest Big S on a MBP - with every single patch or update installed.
I admit that I don’t know what the website SHOULD look like, but it looks fine and navigable on my iPad.
 
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Even on YouTube.com?
yes even on YouTube.

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Some websites, also on the iPhone, aren’t working well with Safari. It’s not easy to buy flight tickets. Haha. On macOS you can easily switch to an another browser. In iOS it’s all WebKit and only Safari (not even web apps) is supporting extensions like Noir.

It should be possible to have another Browser engines in iOS. Apple is totally holding us in their browser and is doing anything that you don’t use any other.
 
Both Edge and Safari are good web browsers, I guess people choose between them depending on the OS they are using.

What is still surprising is why is Chrome number one, it’s bloatware.
All 3 browsers are available on macOS. Safari is actually the most resource hungry, contrary to popular opinion. If you like to have a lot of tabs open, and you don't want to bog down an 8GB M1 Mac, then Safari is the one to avoid.

Chrome is number one because of all the incredible extensions, plug ins, and tools available for it. Plus, obviously, it gained huge market share when MS became greedy and turned IE into a trash can.

See my signature for the moral of this story. At the moment, Apple is putting zero care into its software quality control, and maximum care into its profits. Steve would be rolling in his grave.
 
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Some websites, also on the iPhone, aren’t working well with Safari. It’s not easy to buy flight tickets. Haha. On macOS you can easily switch to an another browser. In iOS it’s all WebKit and only Safari (not even web apps) is supporting extensions like Noir.

It should be possible to have another Browser engines in iOS. Apple is totally holding us in their browser and is doing anything that you don’t use any other.
Okay, I don’t have an iPhone, but do have Edge, Firefox, Chrome and Opera on my iPad. I have Lunascape too. I have a need to select a user agent of choice.
Some browsers on either Apple or Android, don’t let you save bookmarks, let alone manage them.
 
a german one - www.ntv.de, failed 17times* - then I switched. I never doubt that maybe the website has errors but Firefox and EVERY Chromium based browser, including edge, showed no problems.

*) using latest Big S on a MBP - with every single patch or update installed.
Curious. I tried the link. Worked immediately. Since I don't read German anymore, I can't comment on the content, but it looked like it probably should have. Using Safari v 14.1.2 on a mid-2010 MacPro running MacOS 10.14.6. I have sometimes found that some security extensions (i.e., various AdGuard modules) interfere with some websites (or parts thereof). Turning them off sometimes restores full functionality of the problematic website. In this case, that was not necessary.
 
I understand why Chrome and Edge are attractive to many people but what I don't understand is why, if they like Chromium, they don't use Brave?

Brave has all the best bits of Chrome and Edge but without all the personal intrusion, bloat, telemetry, adware and resource hogs. It is a lean, mean, fighting machine.

Google's geeks & devs did a great job with Chromium but the closest browser you can get to their excellent and unadulterated work is Brave.

That said, I use Safari a lot due to the integration but if I have to open Brave I tend to stick with it.
 
It’s the server installed on your device that hogs you resources anc transmits who knows what even when it’s not being used that gives me pause. I hope Apple pours a ton of cash into WebKit maybe take it back in house and rights this ship or we will be back to a Explorer situation again will no real Mac support.
 
Sadly I think we are getting close to seeing the end of Firefox here and this will not be a good thing for the web.
The base firefox can go and die for all I care. No security and the company itself discriminates along with the other big tech companies.

If you must use the firefox core, then use the Brave browser. Actually secure and works quite well.
 
I will not touch chrome as I do not trust google with security. Apple’s recent security track record is not very good either.

So I use safari for not critical tasks and use Tor or Brave for critical tasks.
 
Guys, don't be insane. If you like Chrome but care about privacy do not use Edge, that is a data miner too. Use Brave , its literally Google Chrome without the Google spy code, its open source so its as trustable as can be. The guy behind it is Brendan Eich, founder of Mozilla, x-CEO, and the guy who came up with javascript.
 
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My mac mini needs Edge to run HBO
which means
i need to get rid of hbo
edge wants an update twice a month, but more stable than safari
but for now Safai still syncs great with all 3 devices.
and Edge goes up to 319 MB of cache data
 
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