no … And this was just an example, Safari also has massive problems with cookie banners and lots of other sites. I‘m not logging websites with those problems since I have given up reporting bugs to Apple years ago. Apple doesn‘t care most of the time.
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Yes safari doesnt like cookie banners. But if i do the refresh thing it works.
I agree though safari is kinda broken lots of times
That was not the point of the video. There is nothing in say Raindrop or Microsoft Teams just to name a couple behaving like a web page as you put it ... nothing. It's a total misrepresentation of what is being observed and shown by the video. The apps functionality are not reduced in a window of their own, like a native app, quite the contrary. You can open multiple windows for the same app if you want to compare. Operations became faster, safer, less redudant than using a contrived space of a single windows with dozens of open tabs.
How do you quickly jump from one terminal in the middle of "half dozen" to Zimbra (I use Tmux to manage that amount of terminals) ... use the slow mouse, ctrl-tab to cycle between say 8 tabs? I bet I can jump to such a place faster than you do in a multi window model on macos. What about between Zimbra and something else in another tab, say Zendesk in the middle of say 14 tabs? It's normal to find dozens of tabs opened, my wife more than 20, even then she keeps on opening redundant tabs because its hard to find the right Gmail tab ... she uses Google Apps and Google Classroom at work. The system gets slower and slower ... hence the popular expression ... "try and close some tabs".
For the purpose of having more than a couple of open web apps, Tabs are so absurd in comparison that it is has hard for me to see your objections to the approach demoed. None of this happen in the workflow. Jump between apps, native or web does not matter, in a snap with spotlight from anywhere, avoiding redundancies as what you need in that split second is quickly summoned with a couple of key strokes from anywhere... so on and so forth.
I'm not trying to convince you to change your workflow, but there are indeed advantages to this model when dealing with feature rich web applications. Not saying that tabs aren't useful either or that do not have some advantages in particular for browsing content driven web sites link after link. The way I see it not recognising this is an exercise in futility.
To each to their own I guess. It's ok.
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Still evaluating. It has some interesting features as it is extensible. I like one that provides the functionality of jumping between safari tabs just by writing the name of the tab.
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Browsers from Avant, Lunascape, Maxthon and a few others are (or were) at least partially based on the Trident/MSHTML IE browser engine.
There are comments that Apple should shift Safari to Blink. I have to wonder if that's something they'd seriously consider doing. I don't know that they'd like being dependent on someone else's technology--look at how they shifted to their own processor designs (a move that, at one point, probably would have been derided. "Just keep using Intel like everyone else!") And I really have to wonder if they'd like to be dependent on Google for something like this.
This said, I have to admit I have one bias--I'd like to see WebKit survive. As I've said before, I don't think it's a good idea if there is only one product available for a critical technology.
This said, I have to admit I have one bias--I'd like to see WebKit survive. As I've said before, I don't think it's a good idea if there is only one product available for a critical technology.
I just checked out of curiosity, and noticed quite a list on Wikipedia of products that somehow used Trident.
Trident (software) - Wikipedia
Apple’s not concerned with being the number 1 or 2 browser because anyone wanting to get at those valuable iOS customers are going to cater to webkit OR produce an app, either being just fine with Apple. For the Mac, if anyone wants another browser, they can download another browser. Apple doesn’t care if the person that spent a chunk of change on one of their hardware devices is using a browser they’re supplying for free
Just the fact that chrome was created as a fork of Webkit shows the value of Webkit. Having a company the size of Apple still behind it means that there will always be an open source non-Google option available, even if it’s primarily just used for Apple devices. Anyone can fork Webkit and, like Google did, start with a very competent rendering engine.
back in the day, when webdesign paid, (upto 2009} we would check our sites on a iMac before launching.Web developers stress about browsers and there’s a push from them to have everyone stress about browsers (the whole safari is IE thing) so that they have a convenient excuse for doing less testing. I mean, that’s been web developers for as long as there’s been web development!
Today, a large number ONLY want to test for chrome, so any difference anyone’s likely to see in browser rendering today is primarily going to be between developers creating chrome specific pages and users not using a chrome based browser.
i dont remember if we made any adjustments when things did not work in Safari, Sn Leopard.
Brave is basically Chrome which is basically Edge which is basically Chromium. Together they are about make like 70% of the browser market so yeah if you think that boring up to you.
And Linux is far from boring . Its about the most versatile OS out there running on everything shaped and adjusted as any one wishes.
You can use whatever you want but you can not change the fact that Chrome, Edge, and Brave are basically the same browser except Chrome and Edge sips all your data and spy on you and Brave does not.
Safari is closed source so you have no idea whats going on in the background. Does Apple log every keyboard click you make and every mouse move? Who knows?
Yep, Brave was very boring and really did not offer anything special when i tried the browser last year
no matter how many % one can throw about.
i did not see anything similar to edge beside to typing a url, which did not work.
gotta give some credit for atleast trying the browser tho, not many will.
Still, it amazes me how people could be so blind to google’s shady business practices. I use none of their services and I don’t even miss them. I don’t use their browser, search engine, mail… hell I even change the DNS on every Wi-Fi I connect to just to make sure I'm not using their DNS and being tracked that way. I even built a pi-hole to block any random connections from getting back to google. When are they just going to make that tracking illegal and just go back to regular non hyper-targeted ads?
Been using Edge for a few years now on Mac. Really good browser. Its fast and does everything I want and need for a browser. I use Safari on my iphone and ipad. But desktop. Edge for sure. I like the interface better. Reminds me of the old-school browsers and it's far nicer to look at compared to Safari.
Chrome is a dog. crap on older systems and seems to suffer from spam wanting to get access to my machine. Edge no issues.
If Safari had a UI i could modify to make it more pleasing and animate when using it like the old IE5 for Mac or Netscape would be awesome.
Chrome is a dog. crap on older systems and seems to suffer from spam wanting to get access to my machine. Edge no issues.
If Safari had a UI i could modify to make it more pleasing and animate when using it like the old IE5 for Mac or Netscape would be awesome.
I have tried Brave next to Edge on my macOS now. It’s not that bad that many people say. Just not good on iOS. Are they only trying to defend Chrome no matter what?
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I guess most people just don't feel quite the same way about Google or how they do business.
Google is #1 in search with around 92% of worldwide search engine market share, and can partially thank Apple for that.
Google is #1 in browsers with Chrome having around 63% of worldwide browser market share.
Google is #1 in operating systems with Android and ChromeOS having around 41% of worldwide OS market share.
And, we can thank Apple 100% for that.
And, we can thank Apple 100% for that, too.
True, but it does show that quite a lot of people and businesses are willing to use Google products.
Safari is the new IE.
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