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Microsoft Launches Three New Surface Pro 3 Ads Targeting the MacBook Air

donnaw said:
Many years ago I bought the HP 1000 ( I bought the 1100 the next year). This was the 8" slate with the detachable keyboard. I bought it because it was light bad portable.
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(It was 10.4 inches, not just 8.)

I still have and love my TC1100. So ahead of its time - full Wacom support in 2003!!
 
Zaft said:
I'd rather have a great laptop and tablet then one crappy laptop and tablet.
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About the only market I can see the Surface working well in is students. However, just a matter of time before iPad catches up. There are already covers that function as keyboards.
 
Menneisyys2 said:
(It was 10.4 inches, not just 8.)

I still have and love my TC1100. So ahead of its time - full Wacom support in 2003!!
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Yeah, mistype on my part. I still have my 1100. My granddaughter uses it with an external monitor (she's 6). It runs some web games. My grandson started using it then she inherited it. Club Penguin is the best!

What a great machine! I honestly don't know how I would have gotten through those last few years of my career without it.
 
I've used a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 with having OSX installed including a drivers pack thats out there. It was awesome.. But it wasn't mine :)
I really think Apple should make a 12" tablet computer and not thinking of making a 12" iPad.. The iPads are good as they are in size.. I would love to buy it… Otherwise it will just takes weeks till the Surface Pro 3 comes out and somebody is showing how to install OSX on that thing on youtube.

Come on Apple.. bring something similar.. I'm waiting since years..
 
jolux said:
The cool thing about OS X is that nearly everyone upgrades to the latest version within a year of its release, meaning higher levels of security and also less issues with support. As a dev, it's easier for me to select which platform to develop for as well.

I will give Windows 8.1 that, I was shocked at how fast fast boot actually was. Any idea what the tradeoff is? I'm genuinely curious.

I'm not a big gamer, but I'm a big fan of Valve's stuff, which is Mac compatible and the Mac App Store's library is growing, thanks in no small part to Aspyr. With regards to program support, I haven't had any problems yet. I'd love to know what yours are though, because I am very knowledgeable about open source alternatives and just what's out there in general. If it's a work requirement then I feel for you, I had to deal with them at one point too. Either way, I'd love to help you. That's what forums are for, right? A brotherly devotion to helping your fellow users?

I'll admit I went a bit too far, though I do however find it strange that you're ready to write off my genuine experiences as part of a script. I assume that's because you hear it a lot. I'm serious here, but has it ever occurred to you that you hear it a lot because it happens with a lot of Windows users? Serious question, don't flame me for it.



iMac? Mac Mini?
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I'm going to start off at the end and work my way back.

The reason why I "wrote it off as a script" is because of ... well, I guess I have been kind of jaded by forums. It seems like those things are the normal "go-to" when a person wants to discredit Windows as a whole. And it is never from random forum-people, it's always the people who have an agenda behind it. To me, it's to the point that even if it is true then it's tainted by the fact that it's being used for something as opposed to being given as a cautionary tale of some sort.

Really, for me, there are only a few things I "need" that don't work on OS X (and thus I don't often use Windows much). There are a few games I play that aren't on OS X and never will be. I doubt Aspyr is going to be able to port AoE2 HD Edition over to OS X, for example. TOR is another one, and there are a few others. Another thing that I use is Visual Studio. There aren't any good C# programming tools on OS X that I'm aware of.

Renzatic said:
It almost makes me wish they followed Apple's example here. Unless it's something of the utmost importance, they release fixes in one giant update at more spaced out intervals, so you end up not being overwhelmed with hundreds of little files that take forever to grab and apply. MS tends to throw every little fix out the moment it's done, and you end up being flat out swamped if you're installing an OS late in its life cycle.

Really, I think MS' business model is hurting them the most here, because they can't update the OS and ship out a new image every so often like Apple and all the Linux distros can. Yeah, you've got the Service Packs, but you can't just roll up and download a Windows image with those applied nearly as easily. Like I'm in Linux right now, and the iso I grabbed already had the previous few months of updates already rolled into it. When I got to the desktop, I only had about 8 updates waiting for me. I think Apple does something similar, plus they don't have to worry about quite as much, because they only have to address a limited amount of hardware.

It's the one biggest downside to using Windows to me. Cuz like I said before, it can end up being a HUGE pain in the ass if you're not prepared for it.
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I think it would be a huge benefit to them if they rolled up every six months worth of updates into a single thing. It'd make everything easier. The people who update monthly can continue to do that. The people who got a fresh install of Windows 8 with their new laptop can now install a couple of large roll-ups before likely going to 8.1.
 
Renzatic said:
OSX demystifies the Unix file structure somewhat by adding a few extra folders that everything goes into. Like your installed applications go into your /applications folders, your settings and whatnot go into one of your two /library folders, and so on, and so on. But with Linux and BSD, hell...if you install an application, you don't know where it's going. One of the various /bin or /sbin folders, but which one? Up until 556fmjoe showed me...

Code: 
locate -i (x) | grep bin

...it used to take me forever to find where an application went on Linux.

Windows? Your applications are going into Program Files. Dll files and libraries? System32 and/or WoW64. Your personal settings? Users. OS stuff? Windows. It's pretty straightforward.

Now I'll admit that some of my problems with one, and ease with the other might be due to familiarity and a lack thereof. But at first glance, the 'nix directory structure is anything but self explanatory. It's almost a maze of weirdly named stuff.
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So in other words, you're not referring to the paths, you're referring to the organization itself. OS X does do it pretty well though, you must admit.

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Vegasman said:
Another one talking through his you know what.

You most certainly can pick it up by the keyboard without the display falling off. Heck you can swing the display back onto the cover pendulum style.

We are not talking about an Apple cover built with the tensile strength of a wet scotch tape. Now THAT cute little thing is one annoying daft product!
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You mean the cute little thing that Steve Jobs demonstrated on stage by doing what you claim can't be done with it?

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AppleScruff1 said:
I don't know any Windows fanatics, just Apple fanatics.
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Look in the mirror... ;)
 
EightBitJoe said:
Right. Thanks to the inefficacy of that toy application, many of my friends make a living removing spyware and malware from Windows machines.

Fear it.
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The only thing you should fear is that your "friends" are ripping people off. A five minute Google search and you could easily figure out how to do it yourself.
 
iJayden said:
What's with the recent Apple bashing in ads?

Highlight what your product has, not what your competitor doesn't.
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Isn't that exactly what they are doing in these ads?

These are much better than the dancing angry schoolgirls, that's for sure.

I personally wonder if I'd ever want an "all in one" vs. laptop and iPad/tablet. But Microsoft is finally putting forth a viable all in one it seems.
 
CFreymarc said:
About the only market I can see the Surface working well in is students. However, just a matter of time before iPad catches up. There are already covers that function as keyboards.
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I actually don't see iPad as a productively device even with a keyboard IMO. I need a full PC for that. My point is the surface isn't good at anything.
 
numlock said:
so when apple says "worlds most advanced mobile os" or when it called maps "the most beautiful, powerful mapping service ever"

it isnt referring to its competitors?
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As a whole, yes. These MS ads are brand and model specific, though.
 
Jsameds said:
As a whole, yes. These MS ads are brand and model specific, though.
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and that makes what difference?

its not like there are many players in the desktop os or mobile os market that could be referred to and pretty much just one in the maps market
 
jolux said:
Netbooks sucked though, and Chromebooks don't. I'm not saying Windows' marketshare is dead, I'm saying the platform is dead. The marketshare is arguably dead too, because it's certainly not growing, but I'll leave that to you to decide.
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Wow. Really? Last time I checked, the iPhone and iPad shares weren't growing. So you assume they are dead too?
 
slash7844 said:
Wow. Really? Last time I checked, the iPhone and iPad shares weren't growing. So you assume they are dead too?
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I don't think marketshare is an accurate depiction of anything, as I've explained before. But since it started that way, I ran with it. The Church of Market Share is a false prophet.
 
My mother-in-law bought a surface when she retired because she swore she needed a laptop but wanted it small enough so she can take it anywhere. She is a PC user but also has an iPad Air that she shares with her husband.

She never uses the surface. It took her a week to set it up. Its too small to use as a laptop and too bulky to use as a tablet. Plugging a mouse into it is a little silly because at that point you need a table top and you might as well just have a laptop. AND, contrary to what an earlier poster stated, many, many people use their laptops on their lap as do I. You can't do that with the surface. Its also heavier then the any of the iPads, even 1st generation, or at least it seems to me but I have not checked that spec.

She still uses the iPad 2 everyday, even for work. The surface has collected dust for months now.

Im not trying to bash the surface, I would probably use it if she gave it to me, but I think the whole tablet/laptop hybrid makes a lot of sense in theory but not in actuality. I couldn't see being that 'productive' working on a 10" or 11" screen unless it was looking up youtube videos and watching them.
 
jolux said:
Your casual assertion that Windows has been the only thing around for 30 years, that it was first, etc.
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Maybe you just read my posts instead of reading into my posts, since you aren't doing a particularly good job at it, ok? Stick to what I write and stop inventing your own content.
 
zipa said:
Maybe you just read my posts instead of reading into my posts, since you aren't doing a particularly good job at it, ok? Stick to what I write and stop inventing your own content.
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What was your intention with saying that Windows has been around 30 years? Tell me yourself. I take things literally, and I'm not very good at reading into things.
 
NyArtboy said:
My mother-in-law bought a surface when she retired because she swore she needed a laptop but wanted it small enough so she can take it anywhere. She is a PC user but also has an iPad Air that she shares with her husband.

She never uses the surface. It took her a week to set it up. Its too small to use as a laptop and too bulky to use as a tablet. Plugging a mouse into it is a little silly because at that point you need a table top and you might as well just have a laptop. AND, contrary to what an earlier poster stated, many, many people use their laptops on their lap as do I. You can't do that with the surface. Its also heavier then the any of the iPads, even 1st generation, or at least it seems to me but I have not checked that spec.

She still uses the iPad 2 everyday, even for work. The surface has collected dust for months now.

Im not trying to bash the surface, I would probably use it if she gave it to me, but I think the whole tablet/laptop hybrid makes a lot of sense in theory but not in actuality. I couldn't see being that 'productive' working on a 10" or 11" screen unless it was looking up youtube videos and watching them.
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As much as I would like to take the word of your senior citizen mother-in-law as a reference on tablet set up time, I think I'll look to others. :p.

There are many of us who use it in their lap every day... so um, no.

Less than 10" iPad 1 = 1.5 lb.

12" Surface = 1.76 lb.

Good luck trying to tell the difference.
 
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