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Microsoft Launches Three New Surface Pro 3 Ads Targeting the MacBook Air
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I never paid much attention to ads, no mention to the ones from Microsoft, as I just use XP and office from them.
writing this on a surface pro 3. The most impressive tablet I've ever used. Infinite kickstand viewing angles beats any stupid tablet case with very limited viewing angles. Kickstand is quality and feels substantial when adjusting,not loose or cheap. It has apple build quality, everything runs smooth as silk (web browser doesn't reload all the time etc), it is a tablet or pc or both, use it how you like. You can stay in the touch interface all the time if you like, or run desktop apps if that is helpful. The nuts and bolts of windows are available to the user if you want to get to them, but you can leave them alone. The user experience is up to the individual user.
Steve Jobs talked about OS X and iOS converging. Microsoft is well ahead of Apple in this regard with a tier 1 working product right now.
It is Bluetooth keyboard compatible, meaning I can use my small form factor Apple bt keyboard if I want, or anything else. The surface keyboard cover is something that attaches to the device and you can always have along, but if you don't like it, use whatever keyboard you want, even a usb fullsize keyboard if you want.
Steve Jobs talked about OS X and iOS converging. Microsoft is well ahead of Apple in this regard with a tier 1 working product right now.
It is Bluetooth keyboard compatible, meaning I can use my small form factor Apple bt keyboard if I want, or anything else. The surface keyboard cover is something that attaches to the device and you can always have along, but if you don't like it, use whatever keyboard you want, even a usb fullsize keyboard if you want.
Another one talking through his you know what.
You most certainly can pick it up by the keyboard without the display falling off. Heck you can swing the display back onto the cover pendulum style.
We are not talking about an Apple cover built with the tensile strength of a wet scotch tape. Now THAT cute little thing is one annoying daft product!
Compared to windows though?
And OS X has Spotlight, (or Alfred, take your pick) which searches far faster than Windows does. I'm kind of addicted to it in 10.10, I might need remediation. I've spent hours holding the command key spamming the spacebar as fast as possible watching the little window pop up and down.
I'm also not quite sure how file paths can be complicated, considering they're completely linear in Unix, and you get Finder as well. Terminal alone makes this painlessly easily, you can get anywhere in your system with ls and cd.
If you're desperate to get a cost effective device, my suggestion is better than a Surface. You get an actual laptop, with a great keyboard and great trackpad, thunderbolt, etc, and a drawing tablet. For graphic art, I'd choose it over a Surface any day.
How much would you be willing to bet?
For once, I agree. His prediction seems a bit optimistic. Windows is still so pervasive that in any crowd of 100 you're likely to have at least 1-5% fanatics.
Although some may feel it was "bashy" I think it was fair. Unlike Samsung ads, Microsoft appears to be highlighting the actual weak points of the MacBook Air vs the Surface Pro.
I gotta hand it to them, that pen and it's accuracy have me tempted. I just wish it ran OSX Yosemite!
I gotta hand it to them, that pen and it's accuracy have me tempted. I just wish it ran OSX Yosemite!
OSX demystifies the Unix file structure somewhat by adding a few extra folders that everything goes into. Like your installed applications go into your /applications folders, your settings and whatnot go into one of your two /library folders, and so on, and so on. But with Linux and BSD, hell...if you install an application, you don't know where it's going. One of the various /bin or /sbin folders, but which one? Up until 556fmjoe showed me...
Code:
locate -i (x) | grep bin...it used to take me forever to find where an application went on Linux.
Windows? Your applications are going into Program Files. Dll files and libraries? System32 and/or WoW64. Your personal settings? Users. OS stuff? Windows. It's pretty straightforward.
Now I'll admit that some of my problems with one, and ease with the other might be due to familiarity and a lack thereof. But at first glance, the 'nix directory structure is anything but self explanatory. It's almost a maze of weirdly named stuff.
Im guessing you ignored the "Anyways" and everything after it, or should I have put "getting off topic here, anyways"
They're making a big deal about the touchscreen and how MacBooks don't have them. If you wanna use the thing as a tablet then fine but I don't see it working as well as a laptop. I'd rather be in bed like I am now resting my hand on the trackpad in which I can do the same gestures as the touchscreen, which they fail to mention and I'm sure they know it. If I was gonna use a tablet PC in bed at this time for example I'd get tired of holding it and moving my fingers around the screen, heck I get tired of holding up my phone after a while. They make it seem like it's so much better but they both really have the ups and downs.
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soo dumb
love these commercials. but we all know where the real market share is.. ipad for tablets, and macbook airs
microsoft can do all they want, but it wont' help. I had a surface 3 for a few months, oh wow, was it a bag full of hurt
love these commercials. but we all know where the real market share is.. ipad for tablets, and macbook airs
microsoft can do all they want, but it wont' help. I had a surface 3 for a few months, oh wow, was it a bag full of hurt
I think Microsoft's main issue with the SP3 (and this has been an issue with almost all of their products (brown Zune?!?) is that SP3 is butt ugly. It looks in the videos like a collection of old car parts that will fly apart into lots of rusty metal shards if the table gets bumped. That thing was so obviously designed by committee. Then, assume it turns on and stays on, Windows 8.1 is the butt ugliest version of Windows since 3.0 - Win8 was also obviously designed by committee. This is surprising since Win7 was actually pretty good looking, but I guess the Demonic Forces of Ugly that always seem to be swirling around in Redmond escaped from their chasm again.
On top of that, if anyone goes to any of the forums discussing this thing, it has TONS of hardware issues. That sucks for as much as it costs. I know if I buy a new Air, like the 3 year old MBA I already have, the chances of me having hardware issues are as close to zero as possible in today's hardware world.
On top of that, if anyone goes to any of the forums discussing this thing, it has TONS of hardware issues. That sucks for as much as it costs. I know if I buy a new Air, like the 3 year old MBA I already have, the chances of me having hardware issues are as close to zero as possible in today's hardware world.
Just because they want an-all-in-one, doesn't mean they buy the surface. I want new headphones, but that doesn't mean I take the first that pop into my face on TV.
It's no good for me. I sit using Creative Suite all day and the last thing I'll be doing is using inDesign or Photoshop with my fingers!!! Especially in 'laptop mode' - although give it a year and I can have biceps like Schwarzenegger! So you can plug a mouse into it. Great. Then I'm using all the wonderful 'touch screen laptop' features that, according to Microsoft, make Surface 3 so great and the MacBook Air so lacking! Oh, hang on...
Nothing. Windows has been around for 30 something years. For all we know that could just be statistical fluctuation.
Many years ago I bought the HP 1000 ( I bought the 1100 the next year). This was the 8" slate with the detachable keyboard. I bought it because it was light bad portable. Then I discovered OneNote! I was in IT project management. And I always took the notes during meetings. Most of the time I had either a couple go small projects going or more than two teams working on a large project. OneNote was a life saver. I could hand write the notes, draw the screen mockups, scratch stuff out, and even record the meetings (recording came in quite handy when one specific person participated and kept denying he said stuff).
Anyway, OneNote easily transcribed my really bad handwriting into text while maintaining the drawings, it kept projects organized. I can't say enough about the program. If someone is a student it would be a lifesaver (especially in math, science or engineering where your notes contain drawings or formulas). If you attend meetings where brainstorming takes place or where ideas are thrown out at a fast pace.....
In my opinion, OneNote just doesn't get enough credit.
There are so many things wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin.
1. You can zoom in on the Surface when it's in tablet mode too. The zoom feature is obviously more versatile than your trackpad which is placed on the keyboard side of the MBA. Fine, you have a multi-touch trackpad but it's nowhere near the same as a 10-point digitiser touch screen.
2. Again, not the same. Using your iPad to write on your Mac is not instantaneous as it needs to sync over iCloud... on the Surface this is 100% native and requires no internet connection what so ever.
3. Your iPad is not a fully featured computer. The Surface Pro is. You're completely missing the point by saying that. You have more devices to carry & manage and the experience is not uniform, you can't access the (exact) same features on your iPad. Can you plug in a USB and view photos on your iPad without an adapter? Yes you can have a keyboard-less device but it's not the same as your MacBook, and that's the point.
4. This pricing is awful. For one, the MBA 11" has a smaller screen physically and a much, much worse screen resolution. Secondly you don't even attempt to match the specs. A 13" MBA with the 8GB RAM and 256GB SSD of the Surface Pro that you quote is $1,299... oh look at that, same price! I'll make your job a bit easier: The keyboard cover is sold separately, so you're now looking at $1,399 ish for the Surface Pro. Great what are you gonna do with those extra 100$ with your lower resolution, thicker, heavier, less flexible machine?
Don't get me wrong here, the Surface Pro 3 has its issues and there are many reasons to get a Mac Book over a Surface. But your ignorant Microsoft bashing has to be countered.
Good for them. Makes me wonder why there are still lots and lots of AV and Anti Malware products out there if the built in one is so good. Does the Surface come with the 30 day trial of MacAfee or Norton AV?
In the matter as what i as a IT professional would buy, i tend to see less and less "must have features" rather than "nice to have" when it comes to Apple. Microsoft on the other hand are certainly pushing a direction that has been needed for for some years now.
The same reason people buy insurance they don't need.
No, it's a Microsoft Product. It comes with no "bonus" software.