Yes, that is how it works in a Capitalist society, the "Market" decides not the EU. Apple knows this and they are playing the long game! If other companies make crappy products, no amount of Government regulation can save those products or those companies!
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Microsoft Not Planning on Xbox Cloud Gaming App for iOS Because There's 'Not Room' for Monetization
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Yes, that is how it works in a Capitalist society, the "Market" decides not the EU. Apple knows this and they are playing the long game! If other companies make crappy products, no amount of Government regulation can save those products or those companies!
you and i pay that when we buy our high-profit iphones
I couldn't have said it better myself!
Remember, at the end of the day, this CTF nonsense and wanting a cut of every transaction made on an iPhone is Apple's way of nickel and diming us, the customers. Ultimately every time they hit someone up for 30% or whatever, it means we're paying Apple for that iPhone.
No room for monetization? Apple doesn’t dictate what a developer charges. Microsoft just wants to pay zero to Apple.
Good thing I already have my own personal Xbox Cloud server that I can access through the existing Xbox app… it’s called my Series X with remote play…
I think the EU is going to rip Apple one for their implementation sooner than later after March
Years ago Microsoft complained that they tried to submit an app for this but Apple required a separate app for each cloud game. Now their excuse is this?
Microsoft is also rumored to be working on a portable Xbox handheld that can also use the cloud. This is the real reason!
Microsoft is also rumored to be working on a portable Xbox handheld that can also use the cloud. This is the real reason!
Malicious compliance by Apple: trying to obey the law without actually obeying. Let’s hope the EU strikes down Apple’s changes.
For a concrete example just look at YouTube Premium IAP. $19/mo with Apple’s tax vs $14/mo on the website.
No, obeying the law by obeying the law. And nothing else.
Malicious compliance by Apple: trying to obey the law without actually obeying. Let’s hope the EU strikes down Apple
That’s exactly what malicious compliance is in his case. There’s the exact letter of the law and there’s the intend of the law.
I don’t know what they want. I already pay for the gaming pass and when I downloaded the game pass app it told me to pay again. Not bothered anyway as it’s my kids that use the Xbox. I’d rather play my switch. I know Nintendo will never bring those games to mobile.
Exactly. So he likes for that to be the same on mobile as it is on Windows but Xbox can do its own thing? 🤔
I think I might also prefer the Windows way, but it is pretty messy with all the different launchers and logins and updates that for games that needs to take place within the specific launcher/storefront. So there are disadantages. Sometimes I even have to think twice before remembering in which store have the game I want to play. 😆
GOG is best I think, since no DRM, you can just launch the game itself.
(which you arguably can for other stores too if you make a shortcut to the game executable which should open the storefront and launch the game).
A lot of misplaced aggression towards the EU when Apple opened up cloud gaming apps worldwide, something they should have done 3 years ago. Nothing to do with politics and everything to do with finally listening to users.
However Microsoft’s stance makes zero sense when you consider than Android has a fully functional xCloud app that only allows access to a gamers existing sub. They can’t have any special deal with Google because Stadia used to be in direct competition.
Ah, so that’s why. No streaming competition on iOS so no need to bother.
However Microsoft’s stance makes zero sense when you consider than Android has a fully functional xCloud app that only allows access to a gamers existing sub. They can’t have any special deal with Google because Stadia used to be in direct competition.
Ah, so that’s why. No streaming competition on iOS so no need to bother.
As someone using the cloud service regularly this just pisses me off. There’s nothing stopping them from turning the iOS Gamepass app into a proper xCloud app for Apple TV and iOS outside of pettiness. Or possibly they feel the app development expense isn’t worth it given how few people cloud game. But ignoring that, all of us existing Gamepass users already subscribed externally and are paying Xbox money… they have monetized the app already mich like the Android one!
If a Gamepass app existed for Apple TV I’d probably continue to pay Xbox for that because I’m currently using the cloud service to play games like Persona 3 Reload and Dead Space on my Mac. As it is, when my sub ends I won’t renew because the official web app sucks and I have a steam deck anyway.
Huge missed opportunity here and totally against everything they said the xbox brand stands for. They wouldn’t get “new” customers maybe through this, but they would potentially keep current ones. Sad decision
If a Gamepass app existed for Apple TV I’d probably continue to pay Xbox for that because I’m currently using the cloud service to play games like Persona 3 Reload and Dead Space on my Mac. As it is, when my sub ends I won’t renew because the official web app sucks and I have a steam deck anyway.
Huge missed opportunity here and totally against everything they said the xbox brand stands for. They wouldn’t get “new” customers maybe through this, but they would potentially keep current ones. Sad decision
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This is disappointing, their reasoning doesn’t even make sense
I read this a lot 'the intend of the law', can anyone explain what this intend actually is? And how Apple is breaking it? Because I don't see it. because there is also a difference between the intend of the law and what you want the law to be.
I currently only see people parroting that sentence thinking it's going to solve every problem. That's not how it works, guys. Not now, not ever.
The only real issue I can see is the "Core Technology Fee", and even that is a really thin case.
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You’re the first person I’ve heard who doesn’t like Satya. Why do you feel that way?
Never enjoyed the remote play aspect on the phone, nor the iPad. But got the PlayStation controller with the fat assed screen built in and it’s turned the table. The pickup and play with a decent screen and full controller was the missing ingredient.
Suspect Xbox may release their own.
Suspect Xbox may release their own.
Just buy one of these, and you'll enjoy gaming on your phone.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006412934985.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006339690008.html
Unless, you're in europe... apparently
Just like many people are confused about what of the upcoming changes are DMA-related and which ones are separate from that and apply worldwide, Phil obviously conflated those two.
He was asked about a cloud gaming app and his answer was obviously about monetizing an alternative Xbox marketplace in the EU. Too bad the interviewer did not point it out and ask for clarification.
Obviously, there are no issues with monetizing a cloud gaming app. It would work the way the current web app works (which in fact 17.4 will break in the EU) and if they don’t want to pay Apple’s commission, they can just avoid it altogether and require signing up on Microsoft’s website, Netflix-style. This is explicitly allowed by Apple.
He was asked about a cloud gaming app and his answer was obviously about monetizing an alternative Xbox marketplace in the EU. Too bad the interviewer did not point it out and ask for clarification.
Obviously, there are no issues with monetizing a cloud gaming app. It would work the way the current web app works (which in fact 17.4 will break in the EU) and if they don’t want to pay Apple’s commission, they can just avoid it altogether and require signing up on Microsoft’s website, Netflix-style. This is explicitly allowed by Apple.