randomlinh
macrumors newbie
Well, given the comments, this doesn't fix the fact it's as slow as 2004... possibly slower. I was expected a lot out of this. In fact, I would say I wish it were more like office 2007 (minus the performance issues)
Microsoft Office 2008 Update Available!
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topgunn
macrumors 68000
Translation: We are pretty sure that when you do _______, your Office application will not crash like a lead ballon, anymore.
Pre update, Excel would crash on me at least 5 times a day doing simple things like copy and pasting (albeit in very large files of 100,000 plus rows). Hopefully this update will put an end to that.
digitalfx
macrumors 6502a
Is Entourage worth it? Really? Please PM me if someone thinks it's worth using and why.
If you are on an Exchange server it is worth every penny.
MatrixArchitect
macrumors newbie
Won't install
Ran the installer and it get to the "choose your disk" window and gives me the red exclamation point on my drive. Says "You cannot install Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac 12.0.1 Update on this volume. A version of the software required to install this update was not found on this volume." The Microsoft Office 2008 folder is in /Applications so I don't know what the duck is going on...
Ran the installer and it get to the "choose your disk" window and gives me the red exclamation point on my drive. Says "You cannot install Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac 12.0.1 Update on this volume. A version of the software required to install this update was not found on this volume." The Microsoft Office 2008 folder is in /Applications so I don't know what the duck is going on...
thejadedmonkey
macrumors G3
um.. why did it just install something related to Silverlight on my mac?
and how do I remove it?
and how do I remove it?
alexkywalker
macrumors member
That happened to me too but here is what I did (hope it helps): I accidentally downloaded two updates, one for English and one for another language, so I ended up with two identical update disk images mounted on my machine.
Could be that Leopard seems to have issues dealing with disk images that have the same name and are mounted at the same time, but that's just my best guess.
After I unmounted/ejected the two images and just mounted the one I needed everything ran just fine.
um.. why did it just install something related to Silverlight on my mac?
and how do I remove it?
What is Silverlight? See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Silverlight
On my Mac it only created a folder with a link to the Silverlight webpage. It didn't install anything silverlightish.
Looks like crap to me but it probably won't do any harm.
alexkywalker
macrumors member
Yeah, you can launch it by going to the Help menu of any of the installed apps and clicking on Check for Updates or something like that. I do know it's on the Help menu, just can't remember the exact wording
It lives in /Library/Application Support/Microsoft/MAU2.0/Microsoft AutoUpdate.app
netnothing
macrumors 68040
Oh goody....looks like Microsoft didn't fix the problem of Office 2008 filling the system logs with messages like this:
Mar 11 15:31:01 Microsoft Word[34619]: CGBitmapContextGetData: invalid context
Mar 11 15:31:31: --- last message repeated 435 times ---
Mar 11 15:31:35 Microsoft Word[34619]: CGBitmapContextGetData: invalid context
Mar 11 15:32:05: --- last message repeated 396 times ---
Thanks Microsoft.
-Kevin
Mar 11 15:31:01 Microsoft Word[34619]: CGBitmapContextGetData: invalid context
Mar 11 15:31:31: --- last message repeated 435 times ---
Mar 11 15:31:35 Microsoft Word[34619]: CGBitmapContextGetData: invalid context
Mar 11 15:32:05: --- last message repeated 396 times ---
Thanks Microsoft.
-Kevin
frankly
macrumors 6502a
It takes 3 to 4 minutes to load Entourage and Word 2008.
I have a MacPro Octo 2.8 with 10 gig of RAM.
My old Office 2004 would take 5 seconds or less.
Man I hate Micro **** !
I thought I was the only one that was having issues with Office apps taking FOREVER to load. I am running it on a MacBook Pro 2.33GHz with 3GB of RAM. There is no way in hell that these apps should take as long as they do.
Quick experiment (first launch, second launch):
MS Word 2008 - 59 seconds, 6 seconds
MS Excel 2008 first launch - 39 seconds, 12 seconds
MS PowerPoint 2008 first launch - 50 seconds, 44 seconds
Pages - 8 seconds, 1 second
Numbers - 9 seconds, 1 second
Keynote - 17 seconds, 3 seconds
Something is seriously wrong with your application if you are writing a universal binary and can't get it to launch in a respectable time. I have taken to opening all Word docs in Pages, unless I have to edit them and send them back to someone.
Frank
Yeah, you can launch it by going to the Help menu of any of the installed apps and clicking on Check for Updates or something like that. I do know it's on the Help menu, just can't remember the exact wording
I did that but it didnt show any updates... Funny. Thanks for the response.
It's not just Microsoft...
I don't use MS Office (LaTeX and Keynote are so much better) so I can't comment on their stability but I do know that since I've installed Leopard:
On my iPhone:
Software is hard to develop. Office for the Mac is amazing considering its development history: Start on the classic Mac and was then ported to Windows and then ported back to the Mac and then carbonized, then switched from CodeWarrior to gcc. That's a pretty brutal lifetime for such a massive code base. The fact that Apple's apps seem to crash just as much (I once had Leopard panic because of a double free. That's pretty sad.) as Microsoft's is a testament to Microsoft's skill considering their code base is a few orders of magnitude more complex than what I listed above.
I don't use MS Office (LaTeX and Keynote are so much better) so I can't comment on their stability but I do know that since I've installed Leopard:
- Experienced 5 kernel panics
- iDisk consumed my entire hard 3 times
- Could not pair Bluetooth devices until 10.5.2
- Safari 3 crashes at least once a day
- The entire UI has become unresponsive at least twice, requiring a reboot
- Waking my MBP up has resulted in a severe white tint twice, requiring a reboot
On my iPhone:
- The UI randomly becomes unresponsive, requiring a device restart
- Safari still constantly crashes
- Mail crashes about once a week
- Somehow SMS crashed once
Software is hard to develop. Office for the Mac is amazing considering its development history: Start on the classic Mac and was then ported to Windows and then ported back to the Mac and then carbonized, then switched from CodeWarrior to gcc. That's a pretty brutal lifetime for such a massive code base. The fact that Apple's apps seem to crash just as much (I once had Leopard panic because of a double free. That's pretty sad.) as Microsoft's is a testament to Microsoft's skill considering their code base is a few orders of magnitude more complex than what I listed above.
Get a Clue
That's actually a problem with Apple's spaces implementation and not Microsoft's suite. Every other app does the same thing. Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk.
That's actually a problem with Apple's spaces implementation and not Microsoft's suite. Every other app does the same thing. Seriously, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk.
Hi,
Just FYI, I have a MacBook Pro Core2 Duo 2.4Ghz 4GB RAM, I just test loaded Word, Excel and Powerpoint:
Word 2008: 13 Seconds
Power Point 2008 12 Seconds
Excel 2008 6 seconds
I currently have 2687MB FREE Ram before running them. You might want to check to see how much free ram you have and whether the system is swapping, which may be why they tak so long too load.
Doesn't seem like it is coming up in MS update yet, I downloaded it and installed it, seems to be working ok.
clayj
macrumors 604
You're damn skippy.
Between Entourage on my Macs, Outlook in Windows, Outlook Web Access when I don't have any of my machines handy, and my iPhone, I can send and receive anything I want and everything I do shows up on all machines.
My only real complaints with Entourage are (1) inferior junk-mail handling (which is why I keep Outlook running on a Windows VM, so I can weed out stuff that Entourage misses) and (2) having to export contacts and calendar items through Address Book and iCal... and the iPhone 2.0 with ActiveSync will eliminate that problem once and for all.
It takes 3 to 4 minutes to load Entourage and Word 2008.
I have a MacPro Octo 2.8 with 10 gig of RAM.
My old Office 2004 would take 5 seconds or less.
Man I hate Micro **** !
Hey, I have a Mac Pro Quad 2.66 w/ 9GB Ram, my MS 2008 takes around 10-15 seconds to load.
I would be p***ed off too if my apps took 3-4 minutes to load, sounds like a major problem!
jacg
macrumors 6502a
I'm in the same boat with my MBP. Since Leopard: hard freezes, soft freezes and even the white tint. Have stopped using safari. I thinking I will do a reinstall when I have time sometime.
Back on topic, I'd held back on Office 2008 because of the reported slowness. I'm shocked to hear that it also quits the whole time (I can't believe they fixed them all with this update...). I have that now with Office 2004. Why would I pay to lose the ability to run macros and gain nothing except a slightly more ungainly interface (IMHO)? As Macs get more powerful, at least Office 2004 will get faster and no worse.