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Microsoft Office 2015 (2016?)

joneshoo said:
http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/340837.htm
https://translate.google.com/transl...n&u=http://www.cnbeta.com/articles/340837.htm

Office for Mac 16 Roadmap + exclusive shots of each component exposure: the first half of 2015 launch
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Very nice, thanks.

That seems to be confidential material by Microsoft that leaked.

Office for Mac is scheduled to be released on the first half of 2016. But one should also notice that Office 2011 for Mac is set as being released in 2011, while it was in fact released on October 26, 2010 (yes, exactly four years before the photos leaked to the web, a somewhat nice way to celebrate its anniversary).
 
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ButteryScrollin said:
Thanks. I hadn't seen the other apps outside of Outlook. Nice to see that they exist :cool:

Edit: It's pretty clear from that leaked deck that this is the Mac equivalent of Office 2013, forever two years behind lol
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Is it at least nearly equivalent to Office 365 in terms of features? Or at least not lacking so many features?

What about performance? Is it as bad and buggy as Office 2011? Or is it faster?
 
shandyman said:
Isn't office 365 just 2013 with onedrive space?
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I meant Office 2013, not 365. Office 365 is a subscription model. It allows the user to install Office (2013) for Windows, Office (2011) for Mac, Office for iPad, and so on.
 
skaertus said:
Is it at least nearly equivalent to Office 365 in terms of features? Or at least not lacking so many features?

What about performance? Is it as bad and buggy as Office 2011? Or is it faster?
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I've not really used Office 2013 so can't comment.

Performance is much better than 2011.
 
ButteryScrollin said:
http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-lat...te-for-office-16-second-half-2015-7000035155/
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So, it seems that Mac users are getting Office version 15 on the first half of 2015, possibly Q2. After all these years, Mac will finally get most (although not all) the features of Office version 15 (aka 2013) for Windows.

And then, a few months later, on the second half of 2015, Microsoft will probably release Office version 16 for Windows. Office 16 is expected to bring new features and enhancements over the ones found in Office 15.

Is this understanding correct? Are Mac users undeniably second-class citizens then, that despite paying a lot for their computers, are still stuck with second-best software?
 
skaertus said:
So, it seems that Mac users are getting Office version 15 on the first half of 2015, possibly Q2. After all these years, Mac will finally get most (although not all) the features of Office version 15 (aka 2013) for Windows.
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hmmmmm... i wouldn't go that far....

but yes, i agree it's frustrating that as soon as the Mac catches up a little, Windows will be well ahead again with a new Windows.
 
ButteryScrollin said:
hmmmmm... i wouldn't go that far....
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You would not go that far to even say that Office for Mac will get most of the features that were made available for Windows users two years ago? Some features, perhaps, but not even most?

but yes, i agree it's frustrating that as soon as the Mac catches up a little, Windows will be well ahead again with a new Windows.
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Very frustrating. I am seriously considering going back to Windows because of this. If Windows 10 is really good and provides a good experience, and if PC manufacturers manage to finally make a great ultrabook that is equivalent to a MacBook in all respects, then it will be a no-brainer. But even if Windows 10 is crappy and PCs don't get any better, I may still change to Windows because Macs are sub-par in terms of Office productivity, and Office is the software I need most.
 
Zauberer said:
http://winsupersite.com/office/how-microsoft-taking-office-cross-platform

I think that article is reason for optimism, and might explain why it's taking so long for the new version of Office for Mac. There is a lot of work to be done.
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I had already seen this article before. It only mentions the Mac version briefly. It is pretty much a given at this point that Microsoft is taking Office for Mac to a whole new level. However, it appears that it will still far short of the Windows version.
 
skaertus said:
You would not go that far to even say that Office for Mac will get most of the features that were made available for Windows users two years ago? Some features, perhaps, but not even most?



Very frustrating. I am seriously considering going back to Windows because of this. If Windows 10 is really good and provides a good experience, and if PC manufacturers manage to finally make a great ultrabook that is equivalent to a MacBook in all respects, then it will be a no-brainer. But even if Windows 10 is crappy and PCs don't get any better, I may still change to Windows because Macs are sub-par in terms of Office productivity, and Office is the software I need most.
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I prefer my iMac and MBA but I also have a Windows system laying around primarily for MS Office use. When I need to do some "heavy lifting" I find it easier and more productive to use Office under Windows. (better for my purposes than running Office in a VM or using bootcamp)

And yes, the situation IS frustrating.
 
skaertus said:
So, it seems that Mac users are getting Office version 15 on the first half of 2015, possibly Q2. After all these years, Mac will finally get most (although not all) the features of Office version 15 (aka 2013) for Windows.

And then, a few months later, on the second half of 2015, Microsoft will probably release Office version 16 for Windows. Office 16 is expected to bring new features and enhancements over the ones found in Office 15.

Is this understanding correct? Are Mac users undeniably second-class citizens then, that despite paying a lot for their computers, are still stuck with second-best software?
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Well, you have to admit that since Microsoft creates both Office and Windows it's understandable that they'd put their strongest resources toward the version of Office that works on their own operating system. Honestly, I'm a little surprised they give the Mac as much attention as they do except for the fact that they know that with just a bit of effort they can own the Office space on the Mac platform. It becomes a cash cow even if they let it lag behind the Windows version.
 
JuryDuty said:
Well, you have to admit that since Microsoft creates both Office and Windows it's understandable that they'd put their strongest resources toward the version of Office that works on their own operating system. Honestly, I'm a little surprised they give the Mac as much attention as they do except for the fact that they know that with just a bit of effort they can own the Office space on the Mac platform. It becomes a cash cow even if they let it lag behind the Windows version.
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Exactly. They may even hinder the Mac version a little just to push people to get windows, even in a VM situation.

Also, at least MS make the effort. Apple bailed on Safari for Windows.
 
cagnew said:
New Outlook for Mac available to Office 365 customers. This link also includes the roadmap for the other Office for Mac product suite.

http://blogs.office.com/2014/10/31/..._20141031_106768508_Office365&linkId=10288989
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Thanks for the update! Looks like it's farther off than we thought (final product not ready until 2nd half of 2015). I'm not an Outlook user, but for anyone who install this new version, how does it compare to its Windows counterpart? If it's comparable, maybe we can expect the same for Word and Excel next year.
 
Zauberer said:
I'm not an Outlook user, but for anyone who install this new version, how does it compare to its Windows counterpart?
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Not very well.

I guess now it's public....

- Performance overall is good.
- The look and feel as you can see is better, although the readability of new mails is a little difficult.
- it's severely lacking a huge number of features that the Windows client has had for a long time
 
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Zauberer said:
Thanks for the update! Looks like it's farther off than we thought (final product not ready until 2nd half of 2015). I'm not an Outlook user, but for anyone who install this new version, how does it compare to its Windows counterpart? If it's comparable, maybe we can expect the same for Word and Excel next year.
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Just got through installing it on my MBPr (late 2012). It is better than the previous, but I had to make one change that rather surprised me.



My live mail (outlook.com) was set to look at the pop3 server instead of the imap server. Made that change and all the folders showed up as they should have.



As a client for internet mail, it is closer to the windows counterpart, but not quite. I'm not on the MBPr much these days, but when I am I think I'll work with Outlook for Mac a little closer.
 
lparsons21 said:
Just got through installing it on my MBPr (late 2012). It is better than the previous, but I had to make one change that rather surprised me.



My live mail (outlook.com) was set to look at the pop3 server instead of the imap server. Made that change and all the folders showed up as they should have.



As a client for internet mail, it is closer to the windows counterpart, but not quite. I'm not on the MBPr much these days, but when I am I think I'll work with Outlook for Mac a little closer.
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Can you use it with Exchange?
 
Zauberer said:
Thanks for the update! Looks like it's farther off than we thought (final product not ready until 2nd half of 2015). I'm not an Outlook user, but for anyone who install this new version, how does it compare to its Windows counterpart? If it's comparable, maybe we can expect the same for Word and Excel next year.
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I have the Windows version set up on an old Dell. I don't use that computer much at all. But, as far as GUI and action is concerned, it ( the new Outlook version) appears to draw very closely from the Windows version.

I just installed the new version a few moments ago on my late 2011 MBP, which I do use all the time, and the export of my Outlook 2011 data to the new Outlook worked seamlessly. Thus far, I am pleased with what I am seeing.
 
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cagnew said:
New Outlook for Mac available to Office 365 customers. This link also includes the roadmap for the other Office for Mac product suite.

http://blogs.office.com/2014/10/31/..._20141031_106768508_Office365&linkId=10288989
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I am installing the new Outlook to see how it goes.

However, I am very disappointed at the roadmap. Microsoft finally acknowledged that it removed people from working on Office for Mac to work on other things. I thought that they were going with a H1 2015 release date, which was already disappointing enough, but now this... H2 2015! One more year to go!

Office for Mac 2011 will be nearly 5 years old then.
 
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