Yeah and like Apple is in the clear for "compatability". As my school uses OpenOffice, it's always frustrated me that Pages doesn't support the OTF format.
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Yeah and like Apple is in the clear for "compatability". As my school uses OpenOffice, it's always frustrated me that Pages doesn't support the OTF format.
There are plenty of legit reasons to use Windows over OS X. What's funny is that they manage to post this huge puff piece and avoid mentioning any of them. My favourites are how they advertise Touch, a feature that Apple invented and perfected a couple of years back, and announce that PCs "just work", which I'm pretty sure is still trademarked by Apple...
Compared to IE 6, which they still support...
Compared to IE 6, which they still support...
Sure the software player isn't included, but at least Windows supports HDCP (for example), something that is absolutely required for blu-ray support. OSX, to the public's knowledge, doesn't.
Now before someone screams "DRM, I knew it!", an OS including HDCP support really introduces no practical negatives for regular users, besides disabling the ability to record an encrypted HDMI signal a la a VHS. It's just this thing that "happens" if a compliant monitor is plugged in. Totally transparent.
Not to mention that storing data on an external hdd is both cheaper and require less space then blueray disks...
(In sweden 250GB of blueray space cost approx 600sek, wich you can get a 1TB external disk for =P)
I am loving this tread
all the old arguements dissed out over and over again. It's all about personal taste i guess: just as I never willl wear a Spurs shirt, drive a Ford or go to a Costa coffee shop - even if my life depended on it! - I would never buy a windows PC. All I need I can get from Apple: safe, easy, no crashes, beautiful and yes a bit expensive but i can afford it
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And it's a miracle why all these windows fanboys are coming to a Mac site to slag off Apple. And finally I am not aware that this is a match who should be the biggest, I just care about quality.
all the old arguements dissed out over and over again. It's all about personal taste i guess: just as I never willl wear a Spurs shirt, drive a Ford or go to a Costa coffee shop - even if my life depended on it! - I would never buy a windows PC. All I need I can get from Apple: safe, easy, no crashes, beautiful and yes a bit expensive but i can afford it
. And it's a miracle why all these windows fanboys are coming to a Mac site to slag off Apple. And finally I am not aware that this is a match who should be the biggest, I just care about quality.
OpenOffice sucks ballz badddly. It is a poor clone of MS Office, minus the (little) money invested in usability. All those toolbars crammed with little icons with no apparent reason or order, unusable selection/modification of graphics, the client area shifts up and down everytime you switch tools... Could go on forever.
If you want interoperability with iWork, Both can import/export doc files.
I visited their website and looked through all the stuff. Most of the points have been analyzed to death, so I won''t touch them. What I will touch, however, are their hardware and software tools.
I ran a bunch of my frequently used apps and games through their compatibility checker. I tried to make it fair and use stuff where I wasn't sure if there was a Windows version or not. First was Audacity. It is there, but it has a 64-bit problem. Fine. I checked OmmWriter. Nope. Max? No. The rest of my apps I know are Mac only, so I moved on to my collection of older games. It didn't recognize FreeSpace 2, Uplink, Antares or EV Nova. Their selection was so incomplete, even for the stuff that I knew had Windows versions that I stopped looking.
I moved on to hardware. I am legitimately looking for a computer with a screen size of 15-17" with a 2.4 GHz+ processor, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB+ hard drive that weights less than 7.5 pounds for a price between $1000 and $2600. According to Microsoft, I'll be buying a MacBook Pro. Evidently, there is no non-Apple computer on the market that can fit such a feature set. I was already intending to buy a 17" i7-based MBP. A friend is also looking to replace the 2006 MacBook that they have grown out of with a 15" i7 MBP. The configurator couldn't find anything for them under 6.5 pounds, either. According to Microsoft, we'll both be sticking with Macs.
After checking the source code of their page, I conclude that it is indeed rigged. View the source and about halfway down you will see massively indented content that contains each of the tweets. I suppose that they don't strictly say that it is live .
Some good points. Though I have several Macs, I don't really buy any of them new. For instance, my PowerBook 1400c/117 from 1996 is still capable of wirelessly browsing the internet and reading email, writing papers that are compatible with MS Office at school and other general productivity. Most Macs are drastically underused and probably more fashion statements than computers. This 1400 was a mere $60 plus about $50 in upgrades for $110 total at the end of last year. Cheaper than any Windows PC is new. Each of my three PowerBooks has a specific purpose in my workflow. My Titanium is convenient and compatible, the 1400 is portable and has an excellent keyboard while my Wallstreet G3 with a dead battery is a good compromise between legacy and modern software.
If my computers were to be a status symbol, they would say "these are the oldest computers I could find that still have practical value." In a sense, I've probably proved your point. But then, I wouldn't consider myself "trendy."
That would be because while you are working, we use the spare time we have from not trying to coax our computers into working to say how relieved we are to be the few, the proud, the Mac-users.
How could you say "I win" if you never give the competition a chance to get a word in edgewise? Smells of troll to me.
I ran a bunch of my frequently used apps and games through their compatibility checker. I tried to make it fair and use stuff where I wasn't sure if there was a Windows version or not. First was Audacity. It is there, but it has a 64-bit problem. Fine. I checked OmmWriter. Nope. Max? No. The rest of my apps I know are Mac only, so I moved on to my collection of older games. It didn't recognize FreeSpace 2, Uplink, Antares or EV Nova. Their selection was so incomplete, even for the stuff that I knew had Windows versions that I stopped looking.
I moved on to hardware. I am legitimately looking for a computer with a screen size of 15-17" with a 2.4 GHz+ processor, 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB+ hard drive that weights less than 7.5 pounds for a price between $1000 and $2600. According to Microsoft, I'll be buying a MacBook Pro. Evidently, there is no non-Apple computer on the market that can fit such a feature set. I was already intending to buy a 17" i7-based MBP. A friend is also looking to replace the 2006 MacBook that they have grown out of with a 15" i7 MBP. The configurator couldn't find anything for them under 6.5 pounds, either. According to Microsoft, we'll both be sticking with Macs.
After checking the source code of their page, I conclude that it is indeed rigged. View the source and about halfway down you will see massively indented content that contains each of the tweets. I suppose that they don't strictly say that it is live .
Some good points. Though I have several Macs, I don't really buy any of them new. For instance, my PowerBook 1400c/117 from 1996 is still capable of wirelessly browsing the internet and reading email, writing papers that are compatible with MS Office at school and other general productivity. Most Macs are drastically underused and probably more fashion statements than computers. This 1400 was a mere $60 plus about $50 in upgrades for $110 total at the end of last year. Cheaper than any Windows PC is new. Each of my three PowerBooks has a specific purpose in my workflow. My Titanium is convenient and compatible, the 1400 is portable and has an excellent keyboard while my Wallstreet G3 with a dead battery is a good compromise between legacy and modern software.
If my computers were to be a status symbol, they would say "these are the oldest computers I could find that still have practical value." In a sense, I've probably proved your point. But then, I wouldn't consider myself "trendy."
That would be because while you are working, we use the spare time we have from not trying to coax our computers into working to say how relieved we are to be the few, the proud, the Mac-users.
How could you say "I win" if you never give the competition a chance to get a word in edgewise? Smells of troll to me.
I've used Windows 7 on multiple machines, including boot camp partitions on my macs, since beta. It has been and continues to be, infinitely superior and more stable than Vista ever was on all of my machines.
Hell I have a crappy netbook that runs Windows 7 better than it does Vista. Everyone in my office who runs windows under boot camp or as a separate drive on their macs runs Windows 7 and each will gladly say how much better it is than that black hole of suck Vista.
Wrong. Most Windows users just don't know better or are under peer pressure! There's very few 'Windows fans'
...and iMac. So what?
all the old arguements dissed out over and over again. It's all about personal taste i guess: just as I never willl wear a Spurs shirt, drive a Ford or go to a Costa coffee shop - even if my life depended on it! - I would never buy a windows PC. All I need I can get from Apple: safe, easy, no crashes, beautiful and yes a bit expensive but i can afford it
And it's a miracle why all these windows fanboys are coming to a Mac site to slag off Apple. And finally I am not aware that this is a match who should be the biggest, I just care about quality.
I dont think Windows V Apple should be a competition.
If your an intelligent user, you will use the best tools for the job it does not matter who makes them.
In some cases it might be Windows PC in others Mac. Windows 7 is fine now, Mac OSX works as always. Neither is perfect.
I have a Mac for work and have a PC for when I need programs that are still not made for Macs (and there are plenty of them). To have to run windows on a virtual machine is nuts, why not have windows to start with. On the other hand Macs do give you a hassle free life.
There is also a big gap in price from a windows to a Mac PC. Win PCs do offer more for the money whichever way you look at it. Either way I think you will be happy with your choice. Just dont limit yourself and keep an open mind.
If you have a lot of money and can afford to cater for all your whims then consider yourself lucky, many people dont and the ones that dont need to be impartial,objective, sensible and get the most for the buck.
I don't know what you are talking about. OK, OpenOffice on the Mac is not as good as the Windows oder Linux-Version.
But OpenOffice is (or did) outclass MS Office in some points, e.g. fomula.
In OpenOffice (Writer) you can use a "LaTeX-Style" Language to write a Formula:
Code:
{partial over {partial t} x(t)}+a(x)=%lambda cdot F(x,t)
Very useful and fast.
If you want interoperatibilty OpenOffice is the way to go. Apples fault that they do not support ODF (ISO/IEC Standard) in iWork.
"One objective of open formats like OpenDocument is to guarantee long-term access to data without legal or technical barriers, and some governments have come to view open formats as a public policy issue. Several governments around the world have introduced policies of partial or complete adoption. What this means varies from case to case; in some cases, it means that the ODF standard has a national standard identifier; in some cases, it means that the ODF standard is permitted to be used where national regulation says that non-proprietary formats must be used, and in still other cases, it means that some government body has actually decided that ODF will be used in some specific context. The following is an incomplete list:"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument#Worldwide_adoption
That old joke still gets to me because it's still true today. These PC lifetime people have no clue that OS X is a different operating system or that a Mac can run Windows also.
This is great for Apple, the fact that Microsoft now has to mention them in a marketing campaign essentially acknowledges that they are taking a hit. In my experience anyone who asks themselves "should I get another PC or a Mac" gets a Mac! Once that question's asked the deal's done.
"Microsoft tries to hit Apple where it doesnt hurt with negative advertising along the lines of:
Things just dont work the same way on Macs if youre used to a PC. For example, the mouse works differently. And many of the shortcuts youre familiar with dont work the same way on a Mac.
In one sentence Microsoft has essentially said that Windows users are too stupid to be able to switch to a Mac and that they wont be able to cope with changes to familiar Windows shortcuts. The weakness of that argument is indicative of the weakness of Microsoft itself as a company and of Windows as an operating system. Telling your user base that they are too stupid to try anything new is simply insulting.
Sad days for Microsoft. The once great company is choking on its own ineptness. It really should concentrate on creating ground-breaking products rather than trying to scare its current users with childish taunts.
I was a Windows fanboi . . . Im proud to say that I no longer am."
http://technologme.com/microsoft-getting-desperate/2391/
Things just dont work the same way on Macs if youre used to a PC. For example, the mouse works differently. And many of the shortcuts youre familiar with dont work the same way on a Mac.
In one sentence Microsoft has essentially said that Windows users are too stupid to be able to switch to a Mac and that they wont be able to cope with changes to familiar Windows shortcuts. The weakness of that argument is indicative of the weakness of Microsoft itself as a company and of Windows as an operating system. Telling your user base that they are too stupid to try anything new is simply insulting.
Sad days for Microsoft. The once great company is choking on its own ineptness. It really should concentrate on creating ground-breaking products rather than trying to scare its current users with childish taunts.
I was a Windows fanboi . . . Im proud to say that I no longer am."
http://technologme.com/microsoft-getting-desperate/2391/
There are 3 kinds of people:
People who have a PC and would get a Mac if they had the money,
People who have a PC and don't really care about computers
People who have a Mac.
Most people don't care much, like all those who keep asking "does the internet work on Macs?" and stuff like that. For them, computers are a challenge but they just make do with what they have.
People who have a PC and would get a Mac if they had the money,
People who have a PC and don't really care about computers
People who have a Mac.
Most people don't care much, like all those who keep asking "does the internet work on Macs?" and stuff like that. For them, computers are a challenge but they just make do with what they have.
Hi,
I 've been an avid reader of macrumors, but never took the time to post something, so here it is.
if anybody would bother to care, i found that presentation funny at some points, and I do believe that it could potentially be quite helpful to some entry users not knowing what's what hardware-wise. I couldn't care less if they are taking swings on apple, they can take it. So does the opposite.
I do agree with a fellow poster that this race between the two giants, results to better products for us, so I for one say, let them poke their eyes out.
I could never use just one of two OS. very restraining. frankly, I have been working with w7 for quite some time and until now it has been more than reliable, a cool ui (inspired by macos though) and crashes have been very very scarce. ...and I do stress my systems a lot. so happy with both macosx & w7.
mbp 15" 2008|mb 13" 2008|imac 24" 2007|iphone 3gs|iphone 1g
pc|q6600|evga9800gx2||8gb ram1600mhz|wd raptor|seagate 1tb x3|lg 22"w x2|w7
pc|q6600|evga9600gt||4gb ram1033mhz|wd raptor|seagate 1tb|lg 19" x2|w7
a few more pcs & ipods lurking around the house with an angry gf tripping over cables & wifi signals.
ps
most win laptops are bulky, ugly and I find blu ray useless & expensive. I am happy to learn by another fellow poster that it is on its way out.
cheers
I 've been an avid reader of macrumors, but never took the time to post something, so here it is.
if anybody would bother to care, i found that presentation funny at some points, and I do believe that it could potentially be quite helpful to some entry users not knowing what's what hardware-wise. I couldn't care less if they are taking swings on apple, they can take it. So does the opposite.
I do agree with a fellow poster that this race between the two giants, results to better products for us, so I for one say, let them poke their eyes out.
I could never use just one of two OS. very restraining. frankly, I have been working with w7 for quite some time and until now it has been more than reliable, a cool ui (inspired by macos though) and crashes have been very very scarce. ...and I do stress my systems a lot. so happy with both macosx & w7.
mbp 15" 2008|mb 13" 2008|imac 24" 2007|iphone 3gs|iphone 1g
pc|q6600|evga9800gx2||8gb ram1600mhz|wd raptor|seagate 1tb x3|lg 22"w x2|w7
pc|q6600|evga9600gt||4gb ram1033mhz|wd raptor|seagate 1tb|lg 19" x2|w7
a few more pcs & ipods lurking around the house with an angry gf tripping over cables & wifi signals.
ps
most win laptops are bulky, ugly and I find blu ray useless & expensive. I am happy to learn by another fellow poster that it is on its way out.
cheers
At the end of the day, anybody will half a brain cell can read what it says on the MS site about Macs and what it says on the Apple site about Macs and make up their own mind.
Surely MS are battling against inertia anyway. If Joe Bloggs is considering a Mac even slightly, he'll be more swayed by Apple's site because he's already considering the option.
Surely MS are battling against inertia anyway. If Joe Bloggs is considering a Mac even slightly, he'll be more swayed by Apple's site because he's already considering the option.