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Microsoft Previews Windows 8 for Tablets and PCs
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Not all Windows tiles are "live".
The app developer has the choice to make it present data or not.
What the difference between a PPT from MS and a production model from MS? One has a beta/alpha moniker in its name the other doesn't.
So all those good reviews of the preview so far must mean its going to flop?
Sigh...this forum.
EDIT: unless you are referring only to the hardware?
Even then, no tech blogs were making a huge deal of a fan...this even was about the software.
There's been a lot of critisism of the apparent "inconsistency" of having a desktop and a touch UI in the same OS.
I always assumed this was mostly there for backwards comparability and comparability with cheap apps that don't have a UI designed for each style but which you might occasionally want to run on both kinds of system.
I imagine that it's assumed that apps will be given an interface that adapts to either system, so most tablet users will never have to use the desktop app, although forcing desktop users to use the home screen instead of a start menu seems a pain - a lot of mouse movement there.
I fancy the look of this for the HTPC, if Steam runs in the Metro style and I can navigate with the 360 controller that would be perfect!
Lastly, I've read speculation that Apple will avoid doing this because they want to prolong separate hardware sales and this is a step towards having a phone/tablet that plugs into a dock to become your PC. While I can see the logic, I think this is clearly the future and I'm sure Apple have been working on this since Lion was conceived, if not before.
I always assumed this was mostly there for backwards comparability and comparability with cheap apps that don't have a UI designed for each style but which you might occasionally want to run on both kinds of system.
I imagine that it's assumed that apps will be given an interface that adapts to either system, so most tablet users will never have to use the desktop app, although forcing desktop users to use the home screen instead of a start menu seems a pain - a lot of mouse movement there.
I fancy the look of this for the HTPC, if Steam runs in the Metro style and I can navigate with the 360 controller that would be perfect!
Lastly, I've read speculation that Apple will avoid doing this because they want to prolong separate hardware sales and this is a step towards having a phone/tablet that plugs into a dock to become your PC. While I can see the logic, I think this is clearly the future and I'm sure Apple have been working on this since Lion was conceived, if not before.
I can't help but laugh at Intel's attempts to break into the smartphone and tablet processor market. How many people would consider buying a Windows tablet with a fan, 1.6GHz dual-core processor (hot, power sucking, slow wake), and Intel branding if a fanless tablet with a 1-1.2GHz quad-core Tegra 3 was available?
That's not quite what metrosexual means -it's when someone straight acts/dresses a bit "gay"ly.
Totally agree, once Ivy Bridge is here with half the TDP and better clock speeds, these tablets will be passively cooled offering performance on par with today's laptops in a mobile dockable package. Don't people realize that the tablet is a piece of development hardware.
This is what I wanted from the iPad originally.
Indeed....what about people who are colour blind...or individuals who see colours differently, like males and females?
The design actually impedes the amount of information the is visible at any one time. I can't see how this is a leg up on the direction that Apple is going with Tablets.
Especially ones that are that lame.
That UI is just bad. Metro? The Zune didn't sell it. WP7 isn't selling it.
Solution? Force it upon everyone. Yeah, that'll work.
MS still doesn't get it.
It's beyond stupid, but hey, just give them some time. It'll work. They promise. Stop me if you've heard this one before.
Well in my defense I did say I wasn't going to give it all away. I want people to do SOME leg work on their own.
Now why can't Apple make machines that rugged(or close to it at least), while still having its trademark sexy looks and designs.
re: battery drain.
I think it's safe to say that Steve Jobs sold the world on the notion that a smart phone didn't need to run a full day on full charge. Until I had an iPhone (and I had blackberries and treos) I could go 2 days or more without recharging. Now - smart phones are clearly more powerful than they were then and we do a lot more. But not always. And power users will always drain their batteries regardless.
That's what a power cord is for - or an extra battery/mophie juice pack is for.
For what it's worth - my new MBP has a far less battery life than my previous one which was 2 years old.
Battery life bashing can be said across the board regardless of manufacturer.
I think it's safe to say that Steve Jobs sold the world on the notion that a smart phone didn't need to run a full day on full charge. Until I had an iPhone (and I had blackberries and treos) I could go 2 days or more without recharging. Now - smart phones are clearly more powerful than they were then and we do a lot more. But not always. And power users will always drain their batteries regardless.
That's what a power cord is for - or an extra battery/mophie juice pack is for.
For what it's worth - my new MBP has a far less battery life than my previous one which was 2 years old.
Battery life bashing can be said across the board regardless of manufacturer.
I don't give a **** for the UI, but the convergence idea is nice. Having an all-in-one mobile device is exciting.
My big question... is Metro going to be forced on us for a desktop/laptop user? Again, touch-screen does not/will not work for a desktop/laptop use. That's my worry and if Microsoft don't give us a part of Windows 8 that will be tailored for desktop/laptop use, then they've got it all wrong again. I will definitely look at this preview release to explore this.
MS in their own mind want to get ahead of Apple's implementation of desktop/laptop and tablet OS in one whole swoop. Apple have gone the step-by-step route and integrated some of the most adaptable iOS features into the Mac OS X product. Whether Apple choose to integrate the two? We'll see. They could be playing double bluff with Microsoft and we may never see a universal OS for both laptop/desktop and tablet.
MS have been too brave IMHO to do this in one go and will confuse a hell of a lot of their Windows 7 average-joe customers once this gets to final release.
MS in their own mind want to get ahead of Apple's implementation of desktop/laptop and tablet OS in one whole swoop. Apple have gone the step-by-step route and integrated some of the most adaptable iOS features into the Mac OS X product. Whether Apple choose to integrate the two? We'll see. They could be playing double bluff with Microsoft and we may never see a universal OS for both laptop/desktop and tablet.
MS have been too brave IMHO to do this in one go and will confuse a hell of a lot of their Windows 7 average-joe customers once this gets to final release.
Depends on the rest of the features, like screen size, weight, battery life. Plus pen support and such.
Yes - please - let's take you seriously since you're so clever with the acronyms. Grow up.
No. Metro doesn't mean someone who is gay and doesn't know it. Can we laugh at your ignorant statement?
Metro is short for Metro Sexual (what you're referencing)
Feel free to google that or read this to educate yourself instead of gay bashing - which by your "ha ha" comment - you clearly were doing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrosexual
If Microsoft and the hardware manufacturers can pull this off, I do think it is a compelling product.
It can be the tablet + small PC combo that most people would love to own.
But I do believe it will probably take a few more years to refine the software and fine tune the hardware.
It's a good start and welcomed competition to Apple products.
It can be the tablet + small PC combo that most people would love to own.
But I do believe it will probably take a few more years to refine the software and fine tune the hardware.
It's a good start and welcomed competition to Apple products.