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My only question is this? What is Windows 7 adoption rate? Small

I don't know anyone that uses it. Hard-core windows people went back to XP or swtiched to a MAC. Windows 8 will be great, so we can up the mac adoption rate even more.

Betime it's released, well be on OSX 11.

Windows 7 Adoption Rate small? Considering Microsoft has almost sold 450 million copies of Windows 7, Windows 7 consumer usage is now above Windows XP.

Windows 7 Overtakes XP

If 450,000,000 copies of Windows 7 is a small adoption rate? What does that say about Lion? Or even Snow Leopard?
 
We all know iOS has no future unless it suffers some dramatic changes.

iOS won't be able to compete against OS like Android or Windows 8. I predict the iPad will be the device that will suffer most. Tablets must allow more productive and intensive tasks. iOS has NO REAL MULTITASKING, which is a deal breaker. iOS has many limitations nowadays, imagine if it keeps this way on 2012 or 2013.

Most people won't choose an iPad over a windows 8 tablet. I have one and I love it but iOS has become too limiting. A year ago it was ok, but now I need to be able to do more stuff: load youtube videos on the background, send bluetooth files, download stuff from the internet, etc.

iPad is not the problem. iOS is. If Apple dont change radically iOS (to allow more features I mean. The OS looks very nice and its very intuitive, but its limiting) then next year windows 8 tablets will EAT the iPad in sales.

iPad = 256MB RAM. iPad 2 = 512MB RAM. This is a joke compared to android tablets now and it will be even a bigger joke next year with 4GB RAM windows 8 tablets.
 
Instead of wondering, do a bit of reasearch :)

I refuse to do any research on a tablet needing a FAN. The fan is probably there to resuscitate the user, fainting from myriad technical errors bunging up the experience and flushing files unexpectedly.
 
IOS DEVICES & MACS outnumber the whole Windows market. That's a fact!
Dude really... step away from the pipe. You're hitting it way to hard. :eek:

There are over a billion of pieces of hardware out there running a Windows operating system of one form or another.
400 million of them happen to be running Windows 7.
 
Windows 7 Adoption Rate small? Considering Microsoft has now sold 450 million copies of Windows 7, Windows 7 consumer usage is now above Windows XP.

Windows 7 Overtakes XP

If 450,000,000 copies of Windows 7 is a small adoption rate? What does that say about Lion? Or even Snow Leopard?

Windows 7 overtakes XP? I should damn well hope so. Especially given the fact that Windows is universally licensed and comes on nearly every PC known to man, including junk boxes.

What does that say about Lion? Easy.

Apple's penalty for "losing" the PC war in the 1990s is that they're now the most profitable PC maker in the world. Mac sales growth has outpaced the industry for well over 20 consecutive quarters. Apple owns the $1000+ category. And they are set to have another record quarter selling expensive gear that runs an unlicensed, closed-platform OS.

Apple doesn't ship junk.
 
There's been a lot of critisism of the apparent "inconsistency" of having a desktop and a touch UI in the same OS.

I always assumed this was mostly there for backwards comparability and comparability with cheap apps that don't have a UI designed for each style but which you might occasionally want to run on both kinds of system.

I imagine that it's assumed that apps will be given an interface that adapts to either system, so most tablet users will never have to use the desktop app, although forcing desktop users to use the home screen instead of a start menu seems a pain - a lot of mouse movement there.

I fancy the look of this for the HTPC, if Steam runs in the Metro style and I can navigate with the 360 controller that would be perfect!

Lastly, I've read speculation that Apple will avoid doing this because they want to prolong separate hardware sales and this is a step towards having a phone/tablet that plugs into a dock to become your PC. While I can see the logic, I think this is clearly the future and I'm sure Apple have been working on this since Lion was conceived, if not before.

I think the difference is Apple was prepared to make the tough decision to have zero backward compatibility. ie create a new device category.

Trying to please everyone in the space only leads to compromise and tears.
 
"Metro" is also a term used to refer to someone that is "gay" and does not know it. ha ha ha

No it's not.

Metrosexual means:

a young, urban, heterosexual male with liberal political views, an interest in fashion, and a refined sense of taste.

If you have a Mac, you should consider using this combination while hovering over a word you yet don't understand: CTRL + COMMAND + D
 
I love how everyone knocks the tablet for having fans. Do you know why it has fans? Cause Microsoft wants devs to use the tablet to code and debug for Windows 8. You can't do that effectively with a measly ARM processor.

It's not just a consumer device. The consumer Windows 8 devices won't have fans.
 
So you're convinced that the same tablet using OS X Lion instead of Windows 8 would not need a fan? Really?

That's the reason why smart companies leave desktop OSes on the desktop and develop thin, efficient OSes for tablets and smartphones.

Microsoft could have done the exact same thing.
My guess: it was a very, very political decision to force Windows onto tablets. The Windows group is the big cash cow, so they've got to say what direction the company would be going. WP7 sales are extremely disappointing, even though the OS isn't bad at all and very suitable for a tablet. Now they've used elements from the WP7 UI and ported them to Windows, with the result that it's the same bloated core that requires an expensive Core CPU (and possibly a fan). No word on battery life yet.
 
I watched the hands-on video.

It looks like the UI learning curve might deter nontechnical users, especially if they're already comfortable with iOS. I just can't see any real advantage in it.
 
I think the difference is Apple was prepared to make the tough decision to have zero backward compatibility. ie create a new device category.

Trying to please everyone in the space only leads to compromise and tears.

MS aren't risk-takers. That sort of dynamism is for others - the leaner, meaner, and certainly much more profitable competition.
 
I watched the hands-on video.

It looks like the UI learning curve might deter nontechnical users, especially if they're already comfortable with iOS. I just can't see any real advantage in it.

Metro in Windows Phone 7 has been loved by it's current customers. It's been lauded for it's ease of use and simplicity. There's almost no learning curve.
 
I watched the hands-on video.

It looks like the UI learning curve might deter nontechnical users, especially if they're already comfortable with iOS. I just can't see any real advantage in it.

Just like there's no real advantage in WP7. The OS looks like a bunch of compromises were made in order to a) avoid IP infringement (late to the game again!) and b) difference for the sake of being different.

And it's not working.
 
Yeap. Windows is a complete failure. I just do not understand why World prefers it to awesome OS/X (by a huge margin)

So we note that this device doesn't have one fan, but it has two :D

Fans blowing hot air.


I love how everyone knocks the tablet for having fans. Do you know why it has fans? Cause Microsoft wants devs to use the tablet to code and debug for Windows 8. You can't do that effectively with a measly ARM processor.

Developing code an a tablet? That's sick. Dual 1920 x 1200 is the absolute minimum for me.
 
Windows 8 will add the following feature added values
**AutoCrash- Crashes on command
**Memory Hog-Uses all the PCS available ram
**Autosave - It corrupts your documents as you type
**Enhanced system restore- that wipes your hard drive and restores to blank state
**Integrated Flash in Java UI- requires 50 security updates per week
**Metro UI- Click and crash
 
After my girlfriend came home with an iPad 2 a while back I always said to myself I'll never buy a tablet again because neither me or her ever used it but I'm totally sold on a Windows 8 tablet, the fact that it's practically a laptop makes it sweet as hell! Can't wait! :D
 
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