Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial

[EnderTW]

Well that was COMPLETELY relevant wasn't it.

One of the points the person was making is that Mac OS X has a more efficient was of running, and windows can become more inefficient over time

Again, uneducated.

There is no basis for that comment and is completely not true.

Don't spew out information that is not true. Another example why the Macintosh community gets attacked not only from PC enthusiasts, but almost every other technology enthusiast.

 

[EnderTW]

Apple is also in the software business in case you hadnt noticed.

Uh huh.

This is why you can't buy OEM parts from newegg put it together, and just install OSX right?

 

[Apple iKid]

Microsoft's approach now is a little different. "Windows without walls" means connectivity and compatibility. It wants to reach everybody, not letting anyone out. Those who want price and those who want power are equally happy with a PC. And Windows is the glue which connects everyone. It's a wise strategy.

Ya I understand they thought behind it. But it doesnt change the fact that they dont advertise their actual product.

 

[KnightWRX]

It's the majority of the iMAC generation who give technical people a bad rap for liking Macintosh.

Please, just stick to the facts and don't be so defensive. Some of you are worser than *nix distribution fanboys.

I seriously think this is the least intelligent thing I've ever read on here. iMac generation ? Feeling high and mighty on that pedestal for having used a beige Mac ?

 

[Goona]

They're just trying to make it seem a little more "real" instead of an all-out attack against Apple. Of course, any intelligent person knows that it's all scripted, etc, etc, blah blah blah.

No just shows how clueless they are.

 

[Beerfloat]

So in that case, the Mac is the mitsubishi and the PC is the mercedes. Doesn't help your case.

Somehow I don't believe that in your particular reality 95% of people drive a Mercedes, though. You sound more like the ricer type.

 

[word385]

I did, why don't I see any ads on tv or newspapers from AT&T for the iphone, mostly I see Apple advertising for the iphone but not AT&T.

There is an adwords ad at the top of the search. AT&T paid to have that there. That is advertising, the medium is irrelevant.

 

[cloudnine]

I did, why don't I see any ads on tv or newspapers from AT&T for the iphone, mostly I see Apple advertising for the iphone but not AT&T.

Not trying to be argumentative, but AT&T did (I don't believe they do anymore) advertise for the iPhone. Remember those ads of "real people" standing in front of a black screen talking about their experiences... and at the end of the commercial it shows them walking away from the black screen? Those were AT&T ads... not Apple. AT&T has also done some print ads (of which I can't find online, but I can continue searching if you'd like).

I missed the beginning of this conversation, though. What does this have to do with these commercials?

 

[Ansuz]

More like, people are starting realize that paying more for a shiny object is silly.

Really? People buy so many products based on the aesthetics. The "shiny" factor will always be an important factor in the buying decision of many people.

PC laptops used to be just clunky looking pieces of black plastic. Now, some of them are starting to work on flashy designs. Just take a look at an Alienware PC or the some of the new offerings from Dell.

Shiny is important and people are willing to pay for it.

 

[Apple iKid]

Uh huh.

This is why you can't buy OEM parts from newegg put it together, and just install OSX right?

Just because they dont sell it to be used on other systems doesnt mean that it isnt software.

If I had a rock, but didnt want to sell it to you to be used in your rock collection, does that mean that I dont have a rock?

Software is software, even if you have to buy a certain machine to use it.

 

[djkirsten]

It's like apple and oranges again.

It's like comparing Audis and Hondas.

It's like comparing Jack-Russell Terriers and Border-Collies. (this comparison is kinda silly)

Sure they are both computers but the differences are major when it comes down to usability in software. I'm no fanboy but I work in TV where Macs kinda run the show (literally) so until that changes i'll always have macs. But when i'm on a trip with friends and they whip out their HP, and i whip out my MBP, it's all eyes on the mac.

Once my wife and I had some people over (christmas party) and we intentionally left out our HP laptop and MBP for people to use. It was a fairly big party with lots of people who'd want to frequently google stuff. We'd watch as people went to the MBP first and then only if someone else was using the mac did they go to the HP.

Expensive or not, people know what they want.

 

[D4F]

Clearly this guy has no taste, look at the clothes and the car.

I can only assume he does not buy any 'Brands', as he would then be paying for the badge.

Clothes, Food, Cars, etc, etc. Does he buy all the cheapest of these or is he a hypocrite?

Again MS plug the Apple - it's sexy and aesthetically pleasing.
Great those things are important to me AS WELL as being a great computer.

Stupid ads.

Now that is the DUMBEST possible thing I have read.
Some people are happy with themselves you know and they don't need a computer or car to try to make up for who they are. rofl you actually made my day today. Fanboy and a poser... rofl.

 

[EnderTW]

Those kinds of components cannot be changed on a laptop. Any laptop. From any brand. Laptops aren't fully upgradeable like desktops.
The things you can upgrade on most laptops are RAM and HDD. That can be done on any MB or MBP.
Laptops that allow you to change GPUs, etc, are normally 19" to 21" desktop replacements.

The only advantage MS has is that a LOT of brands are making PCs that run Windows but you mostly get the same hardware specs with a different brand/design.

It's an advantage and disadvantage. Microsoft has to make software that is compatible with thousands of vendors.

Apple has to make software that is compatible with one vendor.

So yes, of course the price will be lower. The supply of PC's is astronomical in comparison to Macintosh.

I don't think Mac prices are unjustified. However, they are opened to attacks on OBJECTIVE facts. Most people don't buy a mac for it's power/os. They buy it for looks.

Which is ok, just admit it.

 

[LagunaSol]

Your "newsflash" is completely wrong. Apple are overpriced because their hardware is under-specd when you can get a normal PC, with better hardware and cheaper.

Are you honestly going to argue that the $699 HP laptop that "Lauren" bought in the original ad was spec-comparable to a 17" MacBook Pro? Honestly?

 

[Goona]

PCs are starting to catch up to Apple in terms of design. The MacBook Air is no longer the thinnest notebook and plenty of PCs pack more features in a nice design. They are also cheaper and used by more people. People forget that you can run AVG for virus protection (it's one of the best and it's FREE) and Adaware is great for spyware (also FREE).

The HP he got is bigger, heavier, and I think uglier but you also have to take into account the features he got. Larger HD, more RAM, larger screen, and a dedicated graphics card all for less than an average 13" MacBook. It's portable power. You can't have a notebook that is both powerful and really small. Come on guys... I would think you would know better and not just be mindless bashers.

It's about time PCs started fighting back after all the years of the PC bashing Mac ads.

Well if the Air isn't the thinnest, then what is, the Adamo, last time I checked, the Air has the thinnest point.

 

[Apple iKid]

It's an advantage and disadvantage. Microsoft has to make software that is compatible with thousands of vendors.

Apple has to make software that is compatible with one vendor.

So yes, of course the price will be lower. The supply of PC's is astronomical in comparison to Macintosh.

I don't think Mac prices are unjustified. However, they are opened to attacks on OBJECTIVE facts. Most people don't buy a mac for it's power/os. They buy it for looks.

Which is ok, just admit it.

I think most people buy it for looks and the OS. Thats how I am anyway.

 

[EnderTW]

Just because they dont sell it to be used on other systems doesnt mean that it isnt software.

If I had a rock, but didnt want to sell it to you to be used in your rock collection, does that mean that I dont have a rock?

Software is software, even if you have to buy a certain machine to use it.

Please stop.

Do I need to look up the definition for software for you?

Apple is in the hardware business, they invest heavily into Intel, which produces products for Apple to use exclusively for a certain time period. Apple is in the hardware business.

The software is an added perk.

If Apple was in the software business, why can't that software be installed on other "hardware", oh wait, because it requires it to be strictly from Apple.

Are you a troll?

 

[BrutalSpoon]

The problem that MS just does not get, is that specs for the vast majority of users, do not matter past a certain point. The only thing that matters, is which machine is going to provide a superior experience for the user. For what that guy wanted, I'll bet my last paycheck the 1299 macbook would have provided a better all around experience.

The average customer does not give 2 ***** about gigahertz, DDR3, etc. All they care about is the experience they have with the machine, and which is going to be the most positive.

I hate to say it, but in some (and ONLY some) cases I'd actually say it would be a Windows machine. Macs generally have better quality hardware and software as well as the integration between the two, but that doesn't help people who are used to Windows machines or don't know anything about computers at all - they just throw stuff at it and expect it to work.

An example: one of my friends bought a mac and expected it to just work. He loved the hardware, but came to me one day telling me that he was having troubles installing something. Turns out he was trying to install a .exe file and was wondering why it just opened up in TextEdit. After telling him that exe files didn't work natively on macs, he just said 'mac's are s***' and decided to go back to using a PC.

Macs have great software/hardware integration and whatnot, but those who know very little about computers don't know that software which their friends recommend that works on the other 97% of computers out there won't work natively on theirs, and so they freak out.

 

[skaertus]

What's the point of getting a laptop that requires you to purchase another external display in order to utilize the power of its graphics card? If that's the case, then throw in the price of the display and add it onto the laptop. Your argument is ridiculously flawed and childish.

OK, but that's an option. It is also possible to buy a 17" PC laptop with a 1920x1200 resolution. Or a 18" PC laptop with a 1920x1080 resolution. Apple has only the 17" 1920x1200 resolution available.

And you can get a PC laptop with a very powerful graphics card. You can get a 9800M GT or a GTX 280M, and make them run on SLI for ultimate power. But the most you can get out of a Mac laptop is a 9600M GT, which is good, but it pales in comparison with the best ones in the market. The 9600M GT is ranked #50 among laptop graphic cards in the Notebookcheck website (http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html). Disappointing, isn't it?

 

[Goona]

Your "newsflash" is completely wrong. Apple are overpriced because their hardware is under-specd when you can get a normal PC, with better hardware and cheaper.

Who said the computer would have to have Windows on it, if you're looking to buy a PC? What if you want to have a Mac but not pay the extra money for the hardware? What if you just get a PC to run a hackintosh or Linux?

Putting a $600 laptop with Linux on it, let's say, to a $1,000+ Macbook - the $600 "PC" would probably be faster than the $1,000+ Macbook, because generally you can get better hardware for cheaper if you're buying a PC, compared to an Apple computer. That's what people mean by "Macs are overpriced".

I love OS X, but I'm not going to get another Apple computer unless the prices change considerably. These Microsoft commercials will definitely help this.

No they won't help anything.

More like, people are starting realize that paying more for a shiny object is silly.

Like the Adamo right?

 

[Apple iKid]

Please stop.

Do I need to look up the definition for software for you?

Apple is in the hardware business, they invest heavily into Intel, which produces products for Apple to use exclusively for a certain time period. Apple is in the hardware business.

The software is an added perk.

If Apple was in the software business, why can't that software be installed on other "hardware", oh wait, because it requires it to be strictly from Apple.

Are you a troll?

Computer software, or just software is a general term used to describe a collection of computer programs, procedures and documentation that perform some tasks on a computer system.

Its still software.

Thats why people pay extra money for Apple. To get the software.

 

[ibook4113]

Again, uneducated.

There is no basis for that comment and is completely not true.

Don't spew out information that is not true. Another example why the Macintosh community gets attacked not only from PC enthusiasts, but almost every other technology enthusiast.

Highlighting the important part in his original comment:

I'm currently in film school and we use Macs 24/7.
A friend of mine got an ASUS and a DSLR instead of a Macbook Pro. People need to make certain choices when money's tight and I understand that.
However, two months later, he already formatted his HDD 2 or 3 times because his computer gets slow and sometimes becomes unresponsive after ± 1 month of intense usage. He's using Kaspersky and regularly backs up and clears HDD space. He's now waiting for a good time to sell his ASUS and buy a MBP.
Your hardware is only as good as your OS allows it to be. Vista, unfortunately, is a strong enough reason to save up and buy a Mac.

It sounds like - for this person's friend - windows is not running as efficiently as his mac is. Also this person is obviously in the film industry which is predominantly Mac orientated.


AND !!!

There was no definitive basis for your comment that was (for all you know) completely without any well informed, educated backing.

 

[Pika]

"Im a PC and I'm picky."

Lets not forget that Macs can run multiple operating systems at the same time.

 

[ppnkg]

lol, this is becoming interesting...can't wait to see apple's response

but hey, he didn't get macos with that hp, did he? let's wish him good luck then...

all the people I know who switched to mac from pc, say they did it for the os. Actually, I switched for the same reason. It was ditching windows that made the difference, no major hardware problems with my old pavillion

my 2c

 

[PlayRadioPlay]

Can someone explain why so many PCs have their trackpad off center to the left?? That doesn't make any sense to me. It seems like, for right handed people, having to stretch your right arm over a few more inches isn't ideal.

I'm trying to imagine on my MacBook Pro right now if my track pad was moved to the left a few inches, and it just seems inconvenient. Why have they started doing this? To make more room to use a mouse off to the right of the track pad? That seems like a stupid reason to me.