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Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial
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that guy probably returned it for a refund after shooting the ad
He was an actor.
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Windows: Life without Wallpapers. To be continued.
The ad is plain stupid. Fanboy or not. Life without Walls? The perfect catchphrase in the course of a home mortgage crisis.
Ah, produced by a Swede. That would explain why it sucks.
Actually, I just visited their site and watch their demo reel. Very impressive work: method studios
I wonder where the catch is on this laptop, didn't he say he wanted portability? I wouldn't want a 16.0" screen, if I was looking for portable laptops. First goal for a MacBook. Second: 2.0 GHz is already really good for a notebook. So, why does he say he's looking for computing power? Third: Well, he says he doesn't want to pay for the brand. It is of course true that you do pay for the 
logo on it, but don't you do the same on HP? You get a very high quality notebook for that price. Plus all the things Macs are known for like simplicity, fun, etc. To conclude all this: Just another ad Microsoft cheats customers with. That's my opinion.
logo on it, but don't you do the same on HP? You get a very high quality notebook for that price. Plus all the things Macs are known for like simplicity, fun, etc. To conclude all this: Just another ad Microsoft cheats customers with. That's my opinion.Honestly for heat issues alone, I'd rather just use an external blu ray drive. I'd seldom use the full capabilities of internal blu ray which are slow. A lot of blu ray laptops (that I've heard) are kinda loud in my opinion.And as far as the future commercial where the video editor needs a computer with a native OS he can edit, author, and proof Blu-ray discs for his clients so he buys a PC... MS, e-mail me.
Client of mine had some problems with a filemaker database and Vista, the unzip program put the filemaker files at default in a system folder. He wasn't aware of any problems and the runtime worked fine.
I recently found out it was installed in a system folder and advised him to move it to the documents folder. When he moved to to another folder the database was empty, it was in its original state. So now the database was gone from the system folder and all we had left was a empty databse. The solution was to do a system restore to get the database back in the systemfolder and export the data.
Maybe its a feature. :/
Why did Adobe make their applications 64-bit for Windows, but only 32-bit for Mac? Why does every Logitech product have Vista and XP drivers for both 32- and 64-bit, but only a handful of drivers for Mac? Why did it take Quark three effing years to port Xpress to OS X? I guess the answer to all of the above is that sh*t happens and that all involved parties are to blame to some degree.
Is it your overall assessment that Microsoft doesn't give jack about backward and legacy compatibility, but Apple does? Apple is about to release a new OS version that doesn't even support their own computers from 3 years ago (2006 G4/G5). Meanwhile I can bring out an old CD with applications from the early 90's and run them on Vista in compatibility mode for whatever Windows version they were created for. Vista did include custom support for hundreds of XP applications that they knew wouldn't be "Vista-fied" by third parties in time for the Vista launch, and additional compatibility patches were released as hotfixes in the weeks and months following the Vista launch. For the most part this bridged the gap between the XP and the Vista generations of these applications. Backward compatibility was at the very least on par with Classic Mode in OSX, but without the inherent lag.
Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that Apple doesn't look back and that they're proactive (if not pre-emptive) in their efforts to remove redundant legacy ports and such, it keeps both the hardware and the software from getting bloated. The 9-pin serial port on my 2006 Dell laptop is more antique than any of my furniture. But the fact is that if you're not willing to pay the (high) price of admission once every three years or so, Apple will throw you off the boat.
You're right, they shouldn't be let off the hook in this case. But if you look at the larger picture and compare Apple and M$ in terms of supporting a vast variety of hardware devices, backward/legacy compatibility etc, can you honestly argue that Apple has the upper hand there?
None of these are really facts, they're just opinions. Personally I don't like the Apple keyboards at all, it's pretty clear that they're designed more around style than function, otherwise they'd be using the same keyboard assemblies as Lenovo uses on Thinkpads.
So much for facts... Personally I hate trackpads of all forms, TrackPoint for the win.
I've described before in other posts while Aluminum is a very impractical material for a laptop, but I'll just sum it up by saying my three year old T60 after being carried around daily, dropped twice, and putting up with general abuse the only signs of it's age are from the slightly worn corners where the rubberized paint has worn thin, and the glossy keys from constant use. Compared to my coworkers Core Duo MacBook Pro, which after three years of comparable use is covered in scratches, has two dents, and the screen no longer shuts flush to the rest of the case, instead it bows slightly outward from the center latch point. My T60 is only about .1" thicker at the back than the MBP, and a little thinner at the front, and weighs in at 5.5lbs, very portable IMO, and is part of the reason I plan on buying another one, see my post on the previous page.4. You keep on swaying from the new macbooks to the plastic ones. The plastic ones are past. You cannot fairly attempt to compare the plastic ones to the laptops of today. Pick the right fight, and pick the aluminum. The average 15-16 inch laptop is 6.5lbs. That is without question. You will see many heavier, and many lighter, but that is a good rough estimate. The Macbook Aluminum, and yes even the plastic one absolutely destroy it in terms of portability. You are correct, the UMB is relatively equal in terms of wait. But, it blows them away in terms of of battery life (which is why many of those 13" models offer extended batteries which add bulk, and another pound, yet still don't match the UMB), and in terms of performance. I'm not a great fan of integrated graphics.
So... Get better laptops. My T60 has no problems running for about 5 and a half hours with normal use and wifi on, I suppose I could strech this out to 8+ if I turned down the screen, turned wifi off, and only used it lightly, but that's not really accurate of real-world use. None of the Apple laptops are at the top of their class for battery life, there are some Dells out there right now that can last 16+ hours.5. My Macbook Pro gets about 8 and a half hours on light use with wifi and bluetooth off. Apple tells you straight up how it calculates its battery life so as to not get people complaining about less than the purported battery life. They say that the brightness is turned to half and and wifi is on. I don't care how much I lower the brightness, the battery life on most PC laptops does not impress me one bit. I'd have to literally turn it down to almost as low as it gets to even come close to the Macbook's, which isn't close at all.
The 9400M is a integrated graphics processor. Period.6. You have made two very [insert any word here] mistakes. Although using shared memory, it is in NO WAY AN INTEGRATED GRAPHICS CARD.
I could go on all day about why Aluminum is not ideal for a laptop case, but I'll save that for another arguement. If your case was really acting as a heat sink, let's just say that it would get more than "slightly warm". Apple actually works hard now to keep heat away from the case so it doesn't end up going into the users lap and frying their legs, as was a problem on earlier MBP's.
I've never had a worse customer service experience than the "geniuses" at my local Apple store. Just my 2 cents.8. I'd like to add that HP customer support are aszholes, unlike Apple.
It's about balance, and for many people, myself included, the balance is shifted too far in the way of design in Apple products. I am not willing to pay a premium for an aluminum case when I can get the exact same innards, often times better innards in a rugged plastic and magnesium case for less money.
And that's the point of these ads. There are plenty of people that just want a computer that fits their few basic needs, like a fast processor, dedicated graphics, big screen, lots of RAM, and they also want it for a decient price. Everything else is just fluff to them. The people who care about glass trackpads and aluminum enclosures will go out and pay the premium for the MBP, but me and 90%+ of the rest of the world will go buy what fits our individual needs and budgets.
I like my iMac, and would consider another Apple computer when and if they get their pricing back in line with the rest of the market. $2000+ for a 15" notebook is just stupid.
Support experiences vary greatly for many reasons. It depends on who you are, where you live, the company's support coverage in that area (or country) etc. My experience with Apple support is similar to yours (abysmal), but I've been blown away by the excellence of Dell's support. An American might say the exact opposite because they live two blocks from the best Apple Store, but Dell's support blows because of the Indian call center thing.
The price on the 17" model is actually quite good when you compare to similar spec'ed 17" machines by other brands, but oddly the 15" is way overpriced (the 2.66 is only $300 less than the 17", they should be $600 apart).
Lol. Those involved know who they are! From Neowin:
FWIW, I came to the exact same conclusion after reading that comment. It's very, very fanboyish.
Why post this? I feel it illustrates some of the attitude in this thread, lol.
FWIW, I came to the exact same conclusion after reading that comment. It's very, very fanboyish.
Why post this? I feel it illustrates some of the attitude in this thread, lol.
Let's tackle each of these point by point.
5. My Macbook Pro gets about 8 and a half hours on light use with wifi and bluetooth off. Apple tells you straight up how it calculates its battery life so as to not get people complaining about less than the purported battery life. They say that the brightness is turned to half and and wifi is on. I don't care how much I lower the brightness, the battery life on most PC laptops does not impress me one bit. I'd have to literally turn it down to almost as low as it gets to even come close to the Macbook's, which isn't close at all.
6. You have made two very [insert any word here] mistakes. Although using shared memory, it is in NO WAY AN INTEGRATED GRAPHICS CARD.
7. Man, are you just ignorant or are you trying to get people pissed off. The manufacturing used to make others laptops are completely inferior to the unibody process. Apple has made a great stride with this. When playing Crysis, my MBP only gets slightly warm due to the fact that the aluminum essentially acts as a heat sink. Aluminum has an incredibly amazing strength:weight ratio. The aluminum housing allows it to be thinner than many notebooks on the market right now. The frame itself is designed to protect each component respectively. Wanna talk about crap housing, we can talk about HP all day.
you got some points very wrong mate.
5. You get 8 1/2 hours for use out of your MBP - BS - Mate shutting he lid does not count as use. I have never had a apple product that has met its battery markerting hype. If you actually used the laptop like a laptop in a useable manner you will find that the battery life is not that impressive.
6. Stop right there - You whole point is worthless, 9400 is an Intergrated GPU. Yes having shared memory does = integrated. DDR and GDDR are different types of memory that run different voltages (one is for the MB and other other for graphic cards), No you do not compare DDR2 to GDDR3 etc.... Just by having dedicated graphics it kicks an intergrated setup. THough not sure why you are bringing the 9400 into this a MBP has a dedicated GPU - Read more about the specs of a MBP then just how apple calculates battery life
7 - Only the Body of the laptop, not the rest of the components. Turn up the settings on crysis a few notches and see how nice that freakin hot unibody feels on you lap or when you use the A,S,W,D buttons. This is the downside of the unibody design, it retains the heat in the body of the laptop, also the thin design means that the vents are narrower to allow the heat out. PC laptops have big ass vents on the sides to get rid of heat from gaming. The unibody design is all about looks, they struggle to shed heat under heavy GPU usage, hence all the threads about black screens of death (only under heavy gaming). Guess what happens when you drop you new unibody from you lap on the floor.....IT DENTS. The problem with unibody laptops is that the Aluminium used in them is very thin, it will dent as soon as you drop them, plastic is much better at absorbing at hit. Alumimium is a very stron/light metal, most motorbike frames use it, but when it is as thin as it is in a unibody it will dent very easily. If you want a rugged laptop, the unibody is a very bad choice, it will scratch very easily and if you drop it very expansive to fix (yes noone wants to drop them, but i have not had a laptop that i have not yet dropped).
When Apple releases new MB or MBP they are a very nice bit of kit. The problem is that they only do speed bumps / minor upgrades over the next year etc. When apple released the unibody designs last year the specs were very comparable to PC laptops and were a great buy, 6 months on, the MBPs have gotten a slight speed bump while PC manafactures have released much better spec laptops for a lower $$$. The only think the unibodies are kicking arse on is design. That is all that matters for alot of people, as they do not even need the power that a MB / MBP comes with. There are though people that need more power / functionality.
6 get this straight stop fighting over integrated not integrated fight over gigaflops and the 9400 gets a lot more gigaflops than any other integrated grafics cards probably better than the standalone cards from a year ago
and the denting thing I have not heard of one unibody denting or scratching
also we all know that the reason that we buy apple is because of their software
And what's worse, even though prices fall on the components all the time this is never reflected in Apple's prices. RAM and hard drives are constantly getting cheaper, so are video cards, and Intel usually adjust their prices downwards when the charm of novelty has worn off... and when you stop by Dell.com you'll sometimes find that a machine is cheaper than it was the month before...
I like the look and feel of these flat keys that were introduced with the plastic MacBooks and later migrated to all their machines and external keyboards. The only problem, IMO, is that the cursor keys are so small you need a Q-tip to press them (form over function galore), and the retarded placement of the Fn key (a deliberate attempt to make using Windows on a Mac extra awkward).
Lol. Those involved know who they are! From Neowin:
FWIW, I came to the exact same conclusion after reading that comment. It's very, very fanboyish.
Why post this? I feel it illustrates some of the attitude in this thread, lol.
Well, it's hard to be a fanboy/zealot if you're using MS's products right? I personally don't have a problem with Silverlight/Vista/whatever on my macs but it's funny watching and hearing people say silly things like "Ewww! Microsoft?!?".
I work with a guy that claims the only things he hates in life are taxes and Microsoft products. Well, that was before I recommend he get a Windows Home Server to meet his media and file sharing needs to share files between his Macs and his kids Windows-based PCs.
Yeah he doesn't hate MS so much anymore.
its amazing just how much debate these ads have caused. I wonder if that was an intended rather than accidental consequence.
if its said again... it wont get through
Seriously people, give up.
Its clear that both sides of this argument are quite clear that they aren't going to budge on their view points. The Mac vs PC debate (as its already been said here a few times) is down to personal taste.
If you want near unlimited choices on your hardware and are will to suffer the problems which can come with that that and the much greater variety of programs you can use then buy a PC, while you are at it don't bother with Vista as the Windows 7 Beta is light years ahead of it.
If however you want a little more style then those monolithic gamers boxes there are out there and a operating system that is tied directly to the hardware at an increased cost (not as bad as a lot of people seem to think here) then buy a mac. I will however point out that giving users the ability to run windows on macs is a stroke of genius from both sides of the fence
Calling one side or the other stupid is in its self stupid. Mac users like what they get and PC users like what they get, advertising to try and increase your market share it Capitalism 101, so if you don't like it try moving to... i dont know... Cuba?
Seriously people, give up.
Its clear that both sides of this argument are quite clear that they aren't going to budge on their view points. The Mac vs PC debate (as its already been said here a few times) is down to personal taste.
If you want near unlimited choices on your hardware and are will to suffer the problems which can come with that that and the much greater variety of programs you can use then buy a PC, while you are at it don't bother with Vista as the Windows 7 Beta is light years ahead of it.
If however you want a little more style then those monolithic gamers boxes there are out there and a operating system that is tied directly to the hardware at an increased cost (not as bad as a lot of people seem to think here) then buy a mac. I will however point out that giving users the ability to run windows on macs is a stroke of genius from both sides of the fence
Calling one side or the other stupid is in its self stupid. Mac users like what they get and PC users like what they get, advertising to try and increase your market share it Capitalism 101, so if you don't like it try moving to... i dont know... Cuba?
Better ?
Compared to the first one "Lauren", this one is better. But still, Microsoft got it completely wrong : When buying a computer, it is not about the specs or the way it looks, it is about the system. In those ads, Microsoft is not mentioning anything about the system. Actually, they should not make ads at all ! Apple make the computer itself, the design and the system AND Microsoft only makes the system, WHAT about Linux on a PC ? That will make it sell better with a user friendly distro of Linux
Compared to the first one "Lauren", this one is better. But still, Microsoft got it completely wrong : When buying a computer, it is not about the specs or the way it looks, it is about the system. In those ads, Microsoft is not mentioning anything about the system. Actually, they should not make ads at all ! Apple make the computer itself, the design and the system AND Microsoft only makes the system, WHAT about Linux on a PC ? That will make it sell better with a user friendly distro of Linux
This is the biggest myth in the Apple world.
Have you looked at the 'high quality' screen of the MacBook? I'd be all over them MacBooks if they had a decent screen with a decent resolution...