"Still, Macs are so sexy" All I can is that Micro$oft ad's are so cheap that they can find a John Doe and tell them "Hey, I offer you $1500 and u say these lines...." They have no idea, it's like buying a cheap chinese car or a Bentley.... No comparison!
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Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial
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People are completely missing the point. This dude got a computer which outperforms the more expensive MacBook in every possible way for less money. It also has Firewire (something which I've seen paraded around on this forum as a must-have in a computer) unlike the MacBook.
He actually ended up with a computer which has performance comparable to the second level MacBook Pro for $1099. Apple will charge you $2499 for the same thing.
Now, is that aluminium body REALLY worth $1500 to you?
Intended. MS knew what they were doing when they picked an ad agency that thrives on controversy and viral marketing. I can almost picture their whiteboard from the brainstorming meeting, with scribblings along the lines of
Mac community = Wasp's nest
Microsoft ad = Stick
There have been tons of ads about the system in the past, it would make zero sense to start plugging a 2+ year old operating system when they're preparing to roll out the next one in a few months.
Poor advert, regardless of the message
This ad is just a bad advert. Regardless of the nonsense inaccuracies of its message it is a commercial that is garbled and poorly constructed at best. Perhaps it was the work of someone on work experience rather than an agency? lol. Microsoft will continue to struggle in the Mac PC debate when they cannot clearly define any sort of argument that can work well in the most shallow 30 second scenarios.
This ad is just a bad advert. Regardless of the nonsense inaccuracies of its message it is a commercial that is garbled and poorly constructed at best. Perhaps it was the work of someone on work experience rather than an agency? lol. Microsoft will continue to struggle in the Mac PC debate when they cannot clearly define any sort of argument that can work well in the most shallow 30 second scenarios.
I agree with you 100% but seeing how most people here are too immersed in their Apple zealotry (people here still use "$" when typing Microsoft -- as if Apple makes products for free
) this will fall on deaf ears.Ah well, if all it takes is a 30 second commercial to get Apple/MS fanboys in a bind, so be it.
Well, it's hard to be a fanboy/zealot if you're using MS's products right? I personally don't have a problem with Silverlight/Vista/whatever on my macs but it's funny watching and hearing people say silly things like "Ewww! Microsoft?!?".
I work with a guy that claims the only things he hates in life are taxes and Microsoft products. Well, that was before I recommend he get a Windows Home Server to meet his media and file sharing needs to share files between his Macs and his kids Windows-based PCs.
Yeah he doesn't hate MS so much anymore.
Famous quote: "Inkjet printers and VHS tapes are the scourge of society."
Consequently, I buy neither. I also do not buy products from Microsoft or Sony because I distrust their business practices. It is not fanboyism, it is not a personal vendetta. When I said "Microsoft made it", I was referring to my personal aversion to their products.
Having said that, not everything they do is worthless. Microsoft has failed at operating systems. Microsoft has NOT failed at applications for operating systems. Office is a resounding success. Microsoft has also done exceptionally well in creating an online gaming system and service. Xbox Live is quite popular.
i bought a dell monitor a while ago, at the time it cost me $1000 (NZ$) and now the same model on their site is $1200. they raised the price by $200 without any improvement in specs or anything. At least apple only increases prices when they refresh and most of the time prices stay put or drop, i dont know why they increased them this time. Because the mac prices here vary according to the exchange rate, we see different pricings everytime the machines are refreshed.
He's "tech savvy" yet thinks that Macs are about aesthetics only? I never even cared about their looks when I bought mine!
I bought them because of their student discounts, reliability (4 iPods and 4 macs in, never a problem with any) and OSX apps. Maybe a bit down to size too because I need my systems powerful but portable.
These adverts are just very poor. I'm not keen on the Mac ones either but these MS ones are just a pain to watch. Can they give up on this crappy premise of giving an actor $1000 to buy a laptop? How hard is it to find a real person?
I bought them because of their student discounts, reliability (4 iPods and 4 macs in, never a problem with any) and OSX apps. Maybe a bit down to size too because I need my systems powerful but portable.
These adverts are just very poor. I'm not keen on the Mac ones either but these MS ones are just a pain to watch. Can they give up on this crappy premise of giving an actor $1000 to buy a laptop? How hard is it to find a real person?
You have to look at things relationally. Meaning, "If it can be this good, why is it not this good?"
You have Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo in the gaming scene.
Weighing the services against one another, Microsoft's is the most fully featured, even though it is a for-pay service, compared to what Sony and Nintendo offer.
You have Apple, Microsoft, and the UNIX crowd in the OS scene.
Weighing the OS' against one another, Microsoft's, while prevalent, is overall less of an OS than either OS X or Linux or UNIX derivations.
So "G" wanted portability, battery life and power:
I guess one out of three of his requirements isn't too bad. But "G" didn't get what he really wanted.
- HP bigger and heavier than MB so less portable.
- HP poorer battery life than MB
- HP more powerful than MB
I guess one out of three of his requirements isn't too bad. But "G" didn't get what he really wanted.
They failed at Operating Systems, yet their OS'ses have a market penetration around 90%. Your logic seems flawed.
I also find it quite silly (to say the least) you won't try MS and Sony products because you "distrust their business practices". How naive can you be to think their business practices are different from the others? Sony (and MS) are just unlucky they got some bad publicity at certain times. Other companies are flying under the radar, but that doesn't make them better.
I've read most of this topic, and my conclusion is that I don't want to belong to the demographic that this ad resonates with.
We all have goals I guess. Err... yeah.
And where are the news then?
If you ever helped somebody buy a laptop, then you know that most people are familiar with Apple products, like it looks, do NOT like it price and generally buy a normal PC laptop anyway.
I would have understood the campaign if it wasn't trying to categorize things. To simply remind people that Wintel isn't that bad and price/performance ratio isn't that poor. Because consumers know well the rest of story.
Reading the thread I actually got strong impression that it's PC-fanbois are up in arms at every Mac users who opines "I like it and I can afford it."
P.S.
"Now, this is getting silly"
-- Monty Python, "And now for something completely different"
Well, wouldn't the exchange rate thing apply to the Dell monitor as well?
For many years (specifically, the Bush years when the dollar was completely down the toilet), I expected Apple products to become cheaper here in Sweden, like all other American products (Dell machines were dirt cheap here in 2007-early 2008). When nothing happened with the prices I asked and was told that, umm... how to translate... they kept the prices static as some sort of 'currency fluctuation buffer'. OK, I thought, well that sucks now but it'll be great when the dollar recovers, Macs will look cheaper by comparison etc. But then when the USD curve turned upwards again, *ka-boom*, up went Apple's prices like a rocket (here in Europe anyway). So there was no "fluctuation buffer", but rather a "punish those pesky foreigners for being foreign" formula designed for profit maximization.
Yeah but you do realize that if they actually start comparing OS to OS MS fails on every point. Especially the price ...
That and Vista has a bad rap right now. I can see MS waiting until the release of Windows 7 or soon after to focus on the OS more.
These threads are so much fan!!!!!
Bring it on m$!!!
Boys the next windows 7 will have a dock? Can you believe that? M$ is so innovative!! Internet explorer is slower by 10x or more than opera, ff, safari and windows now have a dock!!!! These guys are on fire!!!
they should be offering money for these machines not asking for money!!!
Btw to all the pcs who flood these forums in such occasions, while we actually get bans for even having (i did) for just replying to them - these forums are fair-er to others than to the mac community it seems..., have fun while your machines last!!!
Bring it on m$!!!
Boys the next windows 7 will have a dock? Can you believe that? M$ is so innovative!! Internet explorer is slower by 10x or more than opera, ff, safari and windows now have a dock!!!! These guys are on fire!!!
they should be offering money for these machines not asking for money!!!
Btw to all the pcs who flood these forums in such occasions, while we actually get bans for even having (i did) for just replying to them - these forums are fair-er to others than to the mac community it seems...
, have fun while your machines last!!!Cheaper and more features, like a fire-retardant hoodliner so that your chances of not burning alive are improved when the engine catches fire.
Absolutely not. Those are two strong arguments for getting a Mac, and since they're both subjective they cannot be argued against, and are therefore flawless.
It's when the Mac faithful resort to Neanderthal-style Windows bashing á la "beige boxes, winbloze, wintel, malware, viruses, Windows registry, yada yada" that it becomes annoying, especially for those of us who know and use both platforms and can see through that BS like it was a wet T-shirt. People who use such futuristic looking computers should know better than to use stale rhetoric from 1995.
Oh my god this is even more repulsive than Loraine, jesus who does marketing for ms these days? Free $$ they have the best job in the world...who picked this guy?
Seriously, and in all honesty, I would be hard pressed to find a dumber appearing character in an ad. Seriously guys does anyone buy it for a minute this guy knows what he is talking about?
And how about them not mentioning the money he paid and what he go this time..ahahahaha...another one of the one step back we screwed up by mentioning what they actually got and how much because we openly invited comparisons to macs that were very unfavorable.
So this time around we dont know what he paid or what he got...we have to imagine that he got a better deal thatn the macs...this is pathetic even for m$ standards...
Seriously, and in all honesty, I would be hard pressed to find a dumber appearing character in an ad. Seriously guys does anyone buy it for a minute this guy knows what he is talking about?
And how about them not mentioning the money he paid and what he go this time..ahahahaha...another one of the one step back we screwed up by mentioning what they actually got and how much because we openly invited comparisons to macs that were very unfavorable.
So this time around we dont know what he paid or what he got...we have to imagine that he got a better deal thatn the macs...this is pathetic even for m$ standards...
I agree with you 100% but seeing how most people here are too immersed in their Apple zealotry (people here still use "$" when typing Microsoft -- as if Apple makes products for free
Ah well, if all it takes is a 30 second commercial to get Apple/MS fanboys in a bind, so be it.
Amen to that
And what the hell does that mean? Absolutely NOTHING! The fact that Apple uses the same assembling companies doesn't imply, AT ALL, that quality is the same. EACH outsourcing agreement is different for EACH maker, and obviously costs differently for Apple (due to its own higher requirements) when compared to most other crappy PC makers. Outsourcing is part of the SOLUTION, not the problem (unless you're are, of course, another anachronistic and protectionist U.S. citizen).