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This is fearmongering. Economy's tough, and Microsoft is trying to make Money.

A lot if people are clueless. As I said before, I work in IT, mostly mac but do you know that mostly all of them have dell servers? Even those that have xsereve and kerii mail server, they STOL have servers from dell. I love macs but my issued mac has windows server via remote desktop, not apple remote, and microsoft is doing fine. Windows 7 will be the first os that micro has with no other os to support. Plus it's running old hardware very fast, unlike vista. With this marketing now, so wary plus all the buzz IT are giving win 7, I think it's going to do well, especially since in a good economy, apple is over priced, plus a mobi repair no. Apple protection is $900 hindered is due to apple ripping us off and making you buy a new laptop. With apple care, eg, the $359 for MacBook pro is civetubg actaul costof all parts. While I love apple and know their bread and butter iPhone is goingti take a huge hit when. 50+ million iPhone contracts expire, you have to wonder if this I'd karma
 
Apple's sales don't concern them nearly as much as the FUD Apple is spreading about them. M$ is happily selling Windows licenses, Office 2008, games, mice, keyboards and XBoxes to Mac users so there's still bucks to be made after they've gone Mac.

But when you have a competitor who gets up on a soapbox on national television every day and declares that your product sucks, which Apple has been doing for years now, you can only sit idly by for so long.

And Vista did suck, go and check the reviews and satisfaction rates, no wonder. Microsoft is ashamed to mention an ounce of that dreadful word in this campaign.
 
Apart from the fact that it's a MS ad with a BIG FAT Windows logo on it, of course...:rolleyes: Get real, man...you're not making any sense at all.

Microsoft is selling the computer, not the OS. Windows logo... so what? That tells us nothing. No software is mentioned. None. Microsoft sells software. Not computers.

Thanks for dropping your other point.
 
My Unibody MB display is WORSE than my £300 netbook.

And as for the BR issue. Firstly, there's more than just movies to BR - backup and distribution of HD material to others for one. Secondly - why should I end up with two copies of each movie? One BR disk for my HDTV, my Laptop, everything.

Sorry - downloaded, DRM infested movies from iTunes do not interest me, from a rights point of view AND a download time/bandwidth point of view. It's faster to drive to borders and buy a disk.

So let me get this the display on a unibody MacBook is worse than a cheap
Netbook, somehow I find that hard to believe.
 
hilarious

they seem to be more about the brand than the power.

MISSED THE POINT

on a spec sheet of course the PC will win, but it still runs Windows, which is the kicker.

last time I checked, Macs are the most widely used industry computers when producing music, when doing graphics, when shooting a movie.... so is power really an issue? it's software.

also, my company has an account with sony europe, because they design their laptops on Macs... says it all really.
 
Nothing in either of the ads suggests that Microsoft software runs on either computer. The OS is never mentioned.

It is not mentioned because like I ms don't have a selling point for vista. It s THEIR choice not to mention it. mentioned or not, it is a FACT these pcs we are talking about run vista, period.
 
So let me get this the display on a unibody MacBook is worse than a cheap
Netbook, somehow I find that hard to believe.

It's true; it has been tested impartially. Apple uses crap screens in their lowest-end products.

Only one day and already 1050 comments :eek:

Yes, and we've JUST NOW begun to repeat ourselves and our arguments (the original questions are popping back up). Moderators, please close this thread now. We have come full circle again.

It is not mentioned because like I ms don't have a selling point for vista. It s THEIR choice not to mention it. mentioned or not, it is a FACT these pcs we are talking about run vista, period.

And Linux, and BSD, and anything else, really.
 
Forget it, PC trollers can't get it...next time they will be talking about the wonderful features that are coming with Windows 8...:rolleyes:

Actually, Windows 7 is great. Which will lead to disappointment with these ad people when they find out that Vista is not all that great and have to fork out another $150 or so for Windows 7 early next year.
 
Apple's products last and stand the test of time? Tell that to my two plastic MacBooks that couldn't even last two full years doing nothing but living on a desk with very little use.

Who the heck goes and buys a unibody macbook after having two plastic MacBooks fail on them?
 
Apple didn't spread FUD?

Is that why every ad since 2007 has talked about Vista's "problems" which simply don't exist?

Is that why they talk about Windows as all work and no play when its quite the opposite?

Cheaper PCs are better than Macs. I can go to newegg.com and get a notebook PC thats built better than the $2,499 MacBook Pro, has a higher resolution screen, twice the video memory on a more powerful GPU, the same CPU, same RAM, more HDD space on a faster drive, blu-ray, HDMI, card readers, full size ExpressCard, 2 year warranties with accidental damage coverage standard, and included carrying cases all for about half of what that MacBook Pro costs.

LOL, Vista's problems didn't exist, go and tell that to the numerous reviews and unsatisfied consumers. Apple was just repeating what the press was saying.
 
LOL, Vista's problems didn't exist, go and tell that to the numerous reviews and unsatisfied consumers. Apple was just repeating what the press was saying.

The 'press' was pretty anti-vista before it was even released.
On release, the tech sites I was reading all seemed to be going 'urr, we were expecting all manor of bugs and security issues - but actually it's pretty solid'

I'm not the biggest fan of vista, I think it has too much going on in the background by default, especially compared to xp - but it runs fine.
 
OK, So here's what I learned......

Concept #1: Buying that HP is like buying a Stock car with a massive engine (HP Laptop) and run it on standard unleaded gas. (Windows) Still going to suck.

Concept #2: Not considering brand means when buying software you should never consider Microsoft's reputation as a factor (or should you, LOL) or any other company when dropping hundreds of $$ and buy based on other points like features and reliability.

Conclusion: With these points made I would choose OS X and a MacBook. Quality OS and Quality Hardware which = less headaches and more productivity.

Also with the Micro$oft mindset, no matter how good a companies support for their product is that I should buy the cheaper version of what I want because if I save a few hundred dollars now but spend a thousand dollars worth of my time with tech support and falling hardware it's well worth it!!

Let's face it, when you buy stuff like a car, house, medication, food, clothes and such, Brand and quality never become an issue. :p
 
They are not morons, I don't know how old you are but as a 15+ pc user I have "managed " to get infected a gazilionth of times and I am a power user, until of course now that they made vista a dog with all sorts of armories counter this counter that to avoid gettng infected...Wait..ok you say win98, come on...I had about 20 complete system crashes in my main machines only since then...let's be honest here...
I am being honest. I'm 40, I started using PCs in 1992 with Windows 3.11. Like everyone else I used antivirus software for a long time due to the fear propaganda, but after 10 years of finding zero viruses it started to feel like having a UFO camera on your roof, it ain't gonna happen. So I stopped using AV software altogether in 2002 or thereabouts, and since then I've made a habit of downloading AVG or Avira once a year to run a check, and they always come up empty handed. And so does Windows Defender, the spyware scanner.

Again you guys have got us arguing over the obvious....how do you want me to argue over vapourware? Since you seem to know some thigns about software engineering yo should know that the end product is what matters?
Woah woah woah don't try slithering away like a snake from the topic at hand. You argued that the idea of Windows Search was a ripoff of Spotlight. This is impossible due to the documented timeline. So now you don't want to talk about it being a ripoff, instead you suddenly want to shift the focus to software in development vs. available software. So where are you going with that? Are you going to argue that Microsoft didn't have the idea for Windows Search until the same instant that Vista was available in stores?

First off I told you to not include cut/copy and you did, I concede there...let's talk about what you did mention: Windows update? Are you joking? Go to ANY office -and mine too- and see it TURNED OFF in every machine
Wow, they should fire their IT guys then.

Windows Update makes silent installs 90% of the time, and it maintains an index of all your previous installs. The interface is quite intuitive for an MS app and has plenty of tweaks if you're so inclined. Apple's Software Update is a blithering idiot that introduces itself with a big bouncing globe in the Dock. Then it throws you a very crude interface (by Apple Standards) where it rants about some QuickTime patch or a pointless Camera Raw update. Then, as if it was scrambling to come up with more ways to get in your way, it forces you to sign license agreements for maintenance updates to applications you've already signed a license agreement for. I love Apple's stuff normally, but this one is about as elegant as Bigfoot.

Window netowkring easy!!!!!!!!
How about you pay attention to which part of networking I said was easy, rather than make it sound like I applauded some totally different aspect of it? I said it was easy to map network drives, which is nifty for people like me who keep all their files on a NAS. In Leopard, you have to write an Apple Script to achieve the same level of functionality.

So 8,000,000 downloads on a SINGLE downloads page is a "crazy assed gamer" then for the registry mechanic....
It would be a lot for Mac, but given that the Windows install base has crossed the 1 billion mark (those are the legal copies, mind you), that's a microscopic fraction of the user base and bound to include numerous duplicate downloads.
 
Couldn't have put it better myself. Yet when Apple next releases some new Get a Mac ads, people here will think they're amazing. Don't get me wrong, I like Apple products, but I deteste fanboys. At the end of the day this Microsoft ad is just saying you can get more for your money with a PC, and lets be honest, you can.

LOL, we also detest Microsoft fanboys like yourself.
 
The 17" iMac has 1440x900 resolution. It's not really much different.



I've never had any problems with Silverlight. They use it on ITV.com and it works flawlessly there. Try installing it.

Aren't you the same person who had to post 100's of times repeatedly in the last thread like this trying to defend everything possible about MS?

Really have a complex and boring life don't you ?
 
I wonder where the catch is on this laptop, didn't he say he wanted portability? I wouldn't want a 16.0" screen, if I was looking for portable laptops. First goal for a MacBook. Second: 2.0 GHz is already really good for a notebook. So, why does he say he's looking for computing power? Third: Well, he says he doesn't want to pay for the brand. It is of course true that you do pay for the :apple: logo on it, but don't you do the same on HP? You get a very high quality notebook for that price. Plus all the things Macs are known for like simplicity, fun, etc. To conclude all this: Just another ad Microsoft cheats customers with. That's my opinion.

Isn't HP also a brand, isn't he paying more for the HP brand than he would with other systems?
 
LOL, we also detest Microsoft fanboys like yourself.

OK, so let me update my dictionary here... just to make sure.

Mac fanboy = loves Mac, hates PC.
Windows fanboy = thinks Mac is OK, doesn't flat out hate PC.

Yeah, that sounds very fair and balanced. Like Fox News on crack.
 
People who think laptop hunters ad are stupid are in fact total idiots. Look at this and the Lauren thread: 1055 + 3298 posts. Compare that to Get a Mac ads, have they generated that kind of hype?

Now some people are saying, why microsoft advertising the hardware? It is because in the Get a mac ad Apple targets Microsoft's software not hardware, how many times you hear them talk about Dell,HP,Sony? But!!! it is I am a PC, I am a Mac instead of I am Windows, I am a Mac.Microsoft is actually basing their ads on real-world, consumer facts and don't sugar coat it, Giampaolo clearly admits Macs are aesthetically pleasing, how many times one may hear about the Good side of PCs?

Kudos to microsoft & their ad agency for coming up with this.
 
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