Its sad that somehow, some people are still managing to call the author of this post a fanboy. Thats one of the most the most balanced opinions that someone could really express.
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Microsoft Releases Second 'Laptop Hunters' Commercial
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Its sad that somehow, some people are still managing to call the author of this post a fanboy. Thats one of the most the most balanced opinions that someone could really express.
Total garbage ad.
This articles sums it up quite clearly: http://blogs.computerworld.com/another_hp_microsoft_ad_another
The Guy wanted: 1. Portability, 2. Battery, 3. Power
He Got: 1. Over 7 lbs. 2. Two hours 3. Enough power to run the battery out faster than you can use.
Terrible.
This articles sums it up quite clearly: http://blogs.computerworld.com/another_hp_microsoft_ad_another
The Guy wanted: 1. Portability, 2. Battery, 3. Power
He Got: 1. Over 7 lbs. 2. Two hours 3. Enough power to run the battery out faster than you can use.
Terrible.
Myth, is that why Apple leads in the industry in satisfaction rates and close to the top for reliability?
At lot of people here don't want to hear that because they feel the need to have to defend their purchases for some unknown reason. Fanboyism is an amazing trend indeed.
Yeah but OSX is, I wonder why Microsoft isn't touting their superior operating system in these ads.
That it is.
Personally, while an ardent Mac fan, I will get the best tool for the job at hand. Of course if a Mac can fill that void all the better.
Are you serious?
Sorry, you said 'Let's Be Honest' so let's do it. Vista or XP with an HP HDX 16t is hardly getting more for your money. The guy in the added wanted portability, power, and battery life. The HP is hardly the most 'portable' of designs, the battery life is WORSE than both the standard macbook and Macbook Pro, let alone the 17" new enclosed battery. Now this word 'power' is a vague one that Microsoft loves. While I will admit that the quoted numbers on the processor comparisons at $1500 may minutely hand this part of the vote to HP, actual performance on many applications WILL NOT. I congratulate Microsoft on attempting to fight on solely the price tag, even though the ad is weak, because they have finally realised that they are awful in other comparisons.
Sorry, you said 'Let's Be Honest' so let's do it. Vista or XP with an HP HDX 16t is hardly getting more for your money. The guy in the added wanted portability, power, and battery life. The HP is hardly the most 'portable' of designs, the battery life is WORSE than both the standard macbook and Macbook Pro, let alone the 17" new enclosed battery. Now this word 'power' is a vague one that Microsoft loves. While I will admit that the quoted numbers on the processor comparisons at $1500 may minutely hand this part of the vote to HP, actual performance on many applications WILL NOT. I congratulate Microsoft on attempting to fight on solely the price tag, even though the ad is weak, because they have finally realised that they are awful in other comparisons.
@Anuba
Ok buddy, despite differences we had a half civil argument here, unlike other discussions, I respect your opinion, maybe I even agree with minor point, please respect my choice to be an apple fan.
Ok buddy, despite differences we had a half civil argument here, unlike other discussions, I respect your opinion, maybe I even agree with minor point, please respect my choice to be an apple fan.
The implication in the ads is that the OS's are equivalent, and make no difference in the performance of the machine. This is MS's wheelhouse, this is where they want to live. Typical advertising for any product, talk up your strengths, ( even if they aren't really yours but some hardware manufacturers), and gloss over or ignore weaknesses.
Dude, I am not a Microsoft fanboy, in fact I am not a fanboy of anything. I don't like Microsoft. I like Apple. But I am not obsessed with Apple. I don't mind if MS has a dig at Apple. As soon as Microsoft have a dig though, the fanboys around here go berserk.
We're cool. And please respect my choice to be a PC+Mac user who didn't fire up OS X for the first time and go "OMG what an unbelievable difference, thank you Jesus for showing me the light!!", but rather "sure, I guess I can work with this too".
Wow, you've got it easy. I hate/love/hate them both.
I think it stems from jealousy, a lot of them are mad they can't afford macs so they come here to vent frustrations. It's like people who want a BMW but can only afford Honda so they try to make thrmself believe that to get the same experience from the Honda as the BMW.
Yep...
BINGO!!!
Since all macs come without Windows and most other computers do, it's about the OS rather than the hardware. I do feel that Microsoft is jumping to kick Apple prematurely but they can't afford to see the inroads into their market share that Apple and OS X have made.
And I hope that the geniuses at Apple realize that the kiosks in Best Buys are actually working against them rather than for them. Most of the local 'salespeople' steer customers away from Macs because they don't know Macs and can't tell what the benefit is over PC's and Windoze to people that ask.
One guy at the local Best Buy was overheard telling a customer that Apple's are 'toys' and that they are 'too complicated' because they 'aren't running Windows'. One other guy said that while Macs 'can run Windows' you 'can't do anything with the version of Windows that they do run' because they still require 'special versions of programs to be able to run on the Mac'.
I did jump in on a conversation once and the salesperson was adamant that I didn't know what I was talking about. I offered to bring in my own personal MacBook Pro and prove him wrong and he just walked away acting all flustered. I urged the customer to either call the Apple Store or go to the Apple.com website to order because they weren't going to get anything intelligent out of these people...
Now, also given that Windows XP is no longer available, isn't pushing the whole idea of Windows on a Mac just pushing people to get Vista? Isn't that counterproductive on some level?
This is going to get good though. Apple has been flogging the Redmond horse for quite a while now and now the horse is hysterically flogging back...
I like Apple's hardware because so far it's been reliable. I like Apple's operating system because so far it's been reliable too. I hate Vista because so far it's been harder to support and harder to keep running.
Odd thought: What if Apple released OS X that would run on a PC? Is this campaign from Redmond all in anticipation of OS X coming out for non-Apple hardware??? Hmmmm...
BINGO!!!
Since all macs come without Windows and most other computers do, it's about the OS rather than the hardware. I do feel that Microsoft is jumping to kick Apple prematurely but they can't afford to see the inroads into their market share that Apple and OS X have made.
And I hope that the geniuses at Apple realize that the kiosks in Best Buys are actually working against them rather than for them. Most of the local 'salespeople' steer customers away from Macs because they don't know Macs and can't tell what the benefit is over PC's and Windoze to people that ask.
One guy at the local Best Buy was overheard telling a customer that Apple's are 'toys' and that they are 'too complicated' because they 'aren't running Windows'. One other guy said that while Macs 'can run Windows' you 'can't do anything with the version of Windows that they do run' because they still require 'special versions of programs to be able to run on the Mac'.
I did jump in on a conversation once and the salesperson was adamant that I didn't know what I was talking about. I offered to bring in my own personal MacBook Pro and prove him wrong and he just walked away acting all flustered. I urged the customer to either call the Apple Store or go to the Apple.com website to order because they weren't going to get anything intelligent out of these people...
Now, also given that Windows XP is no longer available, isn't pushing the whole idea of Windows on a Mac just pushing people to get Vista? Isn't that counterproductive on some level?
This is going to get good though. Apple has been flogging the Redmond horse for quite a while now and now the horse is hysterically flogging back...
I like Apple's hardware because so far it's been reliable. I like Apple's operating system because so far it's been reliable too. I hate Vista because so far it's been harder to support and harder to keep running.
Odd thought: What if Apple released OS X that would run on a PC? Is this campaign from Redmond all in anticipation of OS X coming out for non-Apple hardware??? Hmmmm...
Total Cost Of Ownership
Suspect I don't think like the normal laptop buyer, but I look at my purchase as a 4 year investment. Even if it were true that PCs were a lot cheaper, I'd still pay a few hundred dollars a year for all the Mac brings to the table. Given that I can get most of that overage back when I sell my old Mac on eBay, there's absolutely no basis for argument.
Suspect I don't think like the normal laptop buyer, but I look at my purchase as a 4 year investment. Even if it were true that PCs were a lot cheaper, I'd still pay a few hundred dollars a year for all the Mac brings to the table. Given that I can get most of that overage back when I sell my old Mac on eBay, there's absolutely no basis for argument.
Let's be fair though. I have a macbook and I love it but I do think apple's pricing is way out of hand. I was able to find out the breakdown of a Dell system lately. It had a 15' screen, Maxtor 500 gig hd, Toshiba blu-ray reader/dvd burner, 4 gig crucial ram, asus mb and so on. It was $1400 with a $300 instant rebate and a $300 coupon code so final price was $799. All these comparisons about how prices are actually equal isn't true because many pc companies offer instant rebates or coupon codes. You just have to look for them. Macs virtually never offer rebates or coupon codes. So if we're talking just machines here, both can be quality. If we're talking OS, Mac wins hands down. But there prices are very high. However I'm leaning more toward the pc side since I can put Ubuntu on it for half or even less of the price.
Sure, OS X is easier, but not by much and Ubuntu is more complete than OS X is, but then all the gpl stuff I need is available for OS X too. Drivers is an issue, but it's becoming a smaller issue. Ubuntu installs on all my hardware without needing extra drivers. OS X just installed on one machine.
I didn't have to sudo, I did have to type my password once to install thunderbird though. Don't know if OpenOffice came pre-installed though, but then that's just a few clicks too.
Anyway, all the things I do, develop software, browse the web, write email, write documents, watch movies, I can do it on Vista, Ubuntu and OS X. OS X to me is the best of both the Unix and Windows world with some added convenience and nicer looking machines, but it is not all that much better than Vista or Ubuntu and one does pay apple tax when one buys Mac...
Sure, OS X is easier, but not by much and Ubuntu is more complete than OS X is, but then all the gpl stuff I need is available for OS X too. Drivers is an issue, but it's becoming a smaller issue. Ubuntu installs on all my hardware without needing extra drivers. OS X just installed on one machine.
I didn't have to sudo, I did have to type my password once to install thunderbird though. Don't know if OpenOffice came pre-installed though, but then that's just a few clicks too.
Anyway, all the things I do, develop software, browse the web, write email, write documents, watch movies, I can do it on Vista, Ubuntu and OS X. OS X to me is the best of both the Unix and Windows world with some added convenience and nicer looking machines, but it is not all that much better than Vista or Ubuntu and one does pay apple tax when one buys Mac...
Very True Video!
Lower Your prices Apple.......Greedy (&^*&^*^&*^s
Yeah, I'm sure an owner of a $4,999 XPS730c is really poor, and aspires to one day become one of those rich people he envies so much, you know, the ones who can afford a $999 plastic WhiteBook.
False equivalency. The equivalent of a BMW is a Siemens PC built at the Augsburg plant, by Germans, to the high German industry standards that made BMW and Mercedes what they are. A Mac is designed in America and built in China, so that would make it a Chinese Ford with aluminum unibody.
Fair enough, you are making a very valid point here. Probably if I hadn't had enough of windows over the years -and this is due solely to their many, many missed opportunities and broken promises, and bad, bad software-I would have received os x and the community here with less relief. As is I ll gladly have the linuxes and I enjoy my apple fanboism.
Apple hasn't sold 50 million iPhones, when are these contracts coming to expire?