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Oh so now a cheap netbook has a better screen than a MBP, what's next a friggin Apple Cinema Display, this is just one dudes opinion and doesn't mean jack. I've seem the screen on netbooks compared to MacBooks to know which is better.
 
Oh so now a cheap netbook has a better screen than a MBP, what's next a friggin Apple Cinema Display, this is just one dudes opinion and doesn't mean jack. I've seem the screen on netbooks compared to MacBooks to know which is better.

It isn't "one dude's opinion" that measures the quality of the manufacturing process of the display.

The Cinema Displays will always be H-IPS (and glossy), because people will always pay for them.
 
Someone who believes that metal is a better material than plastic and believes that the better attention to build quality would correlate to a better experience?

But he's also bashing the unibodies too, if I buy things that are crap, why would I keep buying the same things.
 
Exactly, for the screen issue:

The shocker is that the Dell Mini 9 beats the unibody 15" MacBook Pro on color accuracy, although on viewing angle it slips back down the league table.

Emphasis mine, which means one old photographer, a mr. Rob Galbraith, got a nice little digit like the laptop hunters from ms, to say that dell is more accurate and on an objective measure the viewing angle of course he could sell his horses. Which like a friend here said, this means jack.
 
The 'press' was pretty anti-vista before it was even released.
On release, the tech sites I was reading all seemed to be going 'urr, we were expecting all manor of bugs and security issues - but actually it's pretty solid'

I'm not the biggest fan of vista, I think it has too much going on in the background by default, especially compared to xp - but it runs fine.

What about the users, who gave it the lowest ratings out of all operating systems, were they also anti-vista before it was released, keep the excuses coming.
 
Not as good a commercial as the other. Guy's a tool. Still makes a valid point though. Competition is a good thing;)
I'm not totally sure it is, not if it forces Apple to cut their prices. Because you know it's not going to come out of their holy profit margin, they'll do it by dumpster diving for cheaper and crappier screens, hard drives, optical drives etc. Let me buy my MBP first at the price they're asking today.
 
toyotA VS mercedes same difference

pc vs mac

I don't feel like I'm using a Mercedes when I type on my Macbook.

I also don't feel like I'm using a Toyota when I'm playing a game of Team Fortress 2 on my gaming PC.

I'm clearly doing something wrong. Hmm...:confused:
 
Sadly, these commercials will work for the same reasons that mac ads have - they pander to the uninformed (or those that are informed from second-hand knowledge). The kinds of people that believe everything they hear. ie "macs don't run any programs" "pcs crash a lot" "macs are overpriced" "pcs are confusing" etc etc

Just incase it comes up, I own a macbook pro, used to an ibook g4 AND g3, have appletv, an iphone, etc etc so i am an apple guy and would only buy their products. I just think these ads will be/are effective.

I don't see how they will be effective. In the first one, the girl said she's not cool enough for a Mac. Now this guy said Macs are about aesthetics. Obviously that will also be good for Macs, because it implies that Macs are sexy and you are cool owning one. Most of the people these are targeted to don't need the power anyway. If they need power, they better damn know something about what they buy.
 
A computer is not an investment.
Although it is following the current market trends. I know bad joke.

Just take a look over the past few years and see how memory, HDs and other costs have dropped dramatically.

Oh so now a cheap netbook has a better screen than a MBP, what's next a friggin Apple Cinema Display, this is just one dudes opinion and doesn't mean jack. I've seem the screen on netbooks compared to MacBooks to know which is better.
I think that the reviewer was upset that he could not get a matte screen on the MBP15 like before.
 
People who think laptop hunters ad are stupid are in fact total idiots. Look at this and the Lauren thread: 1055 + 3298 posts. Compare that to Get a Mac ads, have they generated that kind of hype?

Now some people are saying, why microsoft advertising the hardware? It is because in the Get a mac ad Apple targets Microsoft's software not hardware, how many times you hear them talk about Dell,HP,Sony? But!!! it is I am a PC, I am a Mac instead of I am Windows, I am a Mac.Microsoft is actually basing their ads on real-world, consumer facts and don't sugar coat it, Giampaolo clearly admits Macs are aesthetically pleasing, how many times one may hear about the Good side of PCs?

Kudos to microsoft & their ad agency for coming up with this.
Obviously you should expect more posts about this from the constant mudslingi between the two camps.
 
At lot of people here don't want to hear that because they feel the need to have to defend their purchases for some unknown reason. Fanboyism is an amazing trend indeed.

Yeah and a lot of people feel the need to put down Mac users because they can't afford Macs.
 
Yeah and a lot of people feel the need to put down Mac users because they can't afford Macs.

A lot of Apple owners here say the same things ("Go buy a Dell poor boy! lolol!!"). My initial comment was more of a broad generalization of ALL computer users, whether they buy a Dell, HP, Mac, whatever. From what I've noticed, Apple users tend to be more defensive though.

I bought a macbook because I wanted something different not because I wanted to be in some elite computing cult eating scones and drinking tea with everyone at Starbucks.
 
Picky? Hmmmm......

If the actor was picky, he'd never got a pathetic hp notebook. I guess it was a paycheck :D. Anyway, I have a HP Media Center pc that I bought for running vms with virtual server. I'm phasing out all my pcs, as they suck. BTW the HP was brand new and doa out of the box. Took hp two times to fix it, and they couldn't get vista to run on the pos. The people that buy macs aren't buying them for looks and aestitics, they buy it because they need something to run out of the box.

I've been a mac for the last 10+ years and ain't going back to viruses, spyware, and crashing operating systems.

Now if only I could get my job to utilize macs :(
 
I wonder what sort of impact these ads are having in PC forums and new sites. Did the mac and pc adverts create the same fuss?

On the hardcore PC forums I read, it's generally a bit more civil but of course these people generally know what they are talking about and don't make as many random accusations about Windows as some people here (which is understood considering this is a Mac based forum). A diehard Apple fanboy would be ripped to shreds though. I use both platforms so I'm pretty much indifferent. They both have their uses for me.
 
I don't see how they will be effective. In the first one, the girl said she's not cool enough for a Mac. Now this guy said Macs are about aesthetics. Obviously that will also be good for Macs, because it implies that Macs are sexy and you are cool owning one. Most of the people these are targeted to don't need the power anyway. If they need power, they better damn know something about what they buy.

Exactly, very well said, I too think these will backfire ENORMOUSLY on them and cause them even more sales (if only apple would give that non glare option too...). Let me tell you a story that is interesting.

About 15 years ago in France the goverment gave huge funds to ads to make a big anti drug campaign. The bid ad heads (mostly morons imho) came up with celebrities and posters with the motto: "my drug is life", "my drug is sports" etc. etc. What they failed to see there was that they equated what is good in life, what is a measure actually of how something is good or not with the word "drug". That to anyone with a rudimentary understanding of semantics means that they render the word/symbol drug as a universal quantifier of what is good. They had in the same way admitted that people had drugs and a drug was the de facto standard to measure anything against. Needless to say it was all a huge, huge failure that campaign.

I see MS repeating a similar error here, in all their panic and losing sales and just about to launch a new os, when all their previous effects have backfired. They have pitted apple as the de facto standard to judge against. We hear how macs are aesthetically pleasing: this means that pcs when you compare them, arent!!! Apple is the standard by which you judge anything by it seems, like "drug" in my story. Even if there are better pcs than macs, still the standard to judge them by is the mac!!!! This is not the case with :apple: ads vs the pc because this ad pits a generic device against a brand and hence doesn't make the mistake of elevating a specific brand to the de facto standard of how good one machine is.

It's clear to anyone with an above average mind that this is another huge mistep by ms who in their panic are making one blunder after the other.

And this is to me by far the most idiotic for the reasons I mentioned above.
 
Very True Video!

Lower Your prices Apple.......Greedy (&^*&^*^&*^s:mad:

Yeah, I'm sure an owner of a $4,999 XPS730c is really poor, and aspires to one day become one of those rich people he envies so much, you know, the ones who can afford a $999 plastic WhiteBook.


False equivalency. The equivalent of a BMW is a Siemens PC built at the Augsburg plant, by Germans, to the high German industry standards that made BMW and Mercedes what they are. A Mac is designed in America and built in China, so that would make it a Chinese Ford with aluminum unibody.
Which is why y'all are always complaining about price.
 
Fore nearly 3 years with the 'I'm a Mac...' ads, Apple pokes at Microsoft for their flaky issues, compatibility and stability problems - all of these never to be a concern with Mac OS & hardware. Now that Microsoft decides to start with their 'I'm a PC' defense program, effectively causing Apple to cease the ads at least I enjoyed seeing, the only things that they can attack are price and availability. As far as I am concerned, Macs are not toys and shouldn't be though of as such. They're not as tech-geek friendly so people can't as easily do what ever they want with hardware and mods, etc. (I know first hand - I am one of those) and if my kid needs a gaming machine or an internet box, a PC is fine. Now, I am not saying Macs are not over priced but they're worth more than any PC you can spec it to. To back this up in some way, I have not been Mac from day 1 - I have gone back and forth and settled on Mac. I am a Network Admin by trade and work with a menagerie of PCs but use my Mac daily and happily. I honor people with opinions and such people are welcomed to use a PC. They already make up the majority as it is. Many of them just don't know what they're comparing if they stop at the price tag.
 
On the hardcore PC forums I read, it's generally a bit more civil of course these people generally know what they are talking about and don't make as many random accusations about Windows as some people here (which is understood considering this is a Mac based forum). A diehard Apple fanboy would be ripped to shreds though. I use both platforms so I'm pretty much indifferent. They both have their uses for me.

At least give it to us that we are more civil than the average pc forum, cause once in a blue moon that I read these the level is truely atrocious. At least people come here and we engage in some discussion with them even if the offend us or attack us at home. We even have our own members, no names, that make claims about windows 7's grandeur.
 
I wonder what sort of impact these ads are having in PC forums and new sites. Did the mac and pc adverts create the same fuss?
Hard to tell, the Mac community is fairly uniform (and very united) due to the small market share, limited product range and the choice of OS being limited to one. The PC universe is much more diverse, there are hundreds of computer brands, there's the XP users and the Vista users and their in-fighting (which may lead XP users to applaud the Get a Mac ads), there's the Linux camp and their infighting over which flavor is the best, there's the gamers... and even Hackintosh users. Someone who uses Hackintosh on a home built PC might argue that both Mac buyers and Windows users are suckers. But I noticed a hint of vindictiveness in the YouTube comments for these ads...
 
Podiki, first off, I like the mountain locale you are from. ;)

I wish I was. :) My gf's parents have some property in the general area there, I just thought the name was quite nice: bunny mountain. ;)

Secondly and more importantly your argument I m afraid doesn't hold ground and here's why: I have just changed a couple of word from what you said to: "a half decent laptop with xp and older cpu ain't all bad and it does pretty much what the general user wants." Does that mean we shouldn't be buying computers in general because last years tec and machines are good enough? Almost everyone is covered and "does pretty much" what they want by and large by all the lappies and computers that have so far been released, so what?

It's not what I said, you bring up a new issue, but yeah, no reason to move to Vista if you have XP. :) Are you trying to make the point that Macs are somehow next generation? Cos they just aren't. They're great machines though.

People still want to do more buy better machines, more durable, better screens,better os no matter how a lost cause like ms would like yo to think otherwise.

Apple doesn't make durable stuff. It's all flimsy and materials that easily scratch or dent. And look at the screen of the MacBook... It's truly second rate... Are glossy screens more advanced? What about the ***** hinges of the MBA? So where is all this advancement? It's just different, a nice kind of different to me. I don't find a laptop made from slab of aluminium all that impressive. It looks nicer in my eyes, but most people don't buy their computer for the looks.

If anyone can do "pretty much" what they want with the ee pc, and most users can, then everyone should be getting that, but they aren't. Because ms's argument doesn't make sense.

No, an ee pc is underpowered, you're exaggerating here. The average pc has hardware just as good as the average mac for a lower price. that's what people see and need.
 
At least give it to us that we are more civil than the average pc forum, cause once in a blue moon that I read these the level is truely atrocious. At least people come here and we engage in some discussion with them even if the offend us or attack us at home. We even have our own members, no names, that make claims about windows 7's grandeur.

Well it depends. The subforums here are pretty civil I'll admit, but when it comes to the subject of these new MS ads... well... yeah not so much. The thread for the first commercial on the other forum I read only has 300 replies and a lot of them are about how attractive the girl is :)o). There isn't even a thread yet for the new commercial over there.

The fanboyism here and for Apple in general makes me cringe more times than not though. I mean, some techblog actually contacted the actress in the first commercial (they called her actual phone) to ask about the HP she bought.

That's ridiculous.
 
@podiki, points well taken. Funny name indeed bunny rabbit, ha ha, great locale choice, sounds funny in the native language too!:apple:

Well it depends....
The fanboyism here makes me cringe more times than not though. I mean, some techblog actually contacted the actress in the first commercial (they called her actual phone) to ask about the HP she bought.
That's ridiculous.
Come on you want to be a fanboy too that's why you are here, give in and you ll get a free mactablet ;) and ticket to see the new protein fed fatso Steve in his triumphant return on WWDC for the new iphone!!!:D
 
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