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This is something I don't get...

Why the recently released Apple wireless keyboard doesn't include Touch ID and visual touchbar.

It sure would have reduced autonomy a lot but all the sudden new desktop users could have accessed those features (iMac, macMini, macPro old and new the logic being in the keyboard directly).

Can't tell you why it doesn't have Touch ID, but the Magic Bar or whatever it is Apple calls it would significantly reduce the battery life. Right now, wireless keyboards last around 2 months and can be charged in under 2 hours. The magic bar would probably reduce the life down to a couple of days.

Of course, the iPhone's battery doesn't last anywhere near as long as the batteries of dumb phones and the Apple Watch battery doesn't last anywhere near as long as dumb watches, but that didn't stop Apple from releasing those products.

It may be the fact that nobody seems to care about the magic touch bar.
 
This is something I don't get...

Why the recently released Apple wireless keyboard doesn't include Touch ID and visual touchbar.

It sure would have reduced autonomy a lot but all the sudden new desktop users could have accessed those features (iMac, macMini, macPro old and new the logic being in the keyboard directly).

This is a very valid question. I would only be guessing, but Touch ID might have a security issue when sending the signal via BT or else it would require a dedicated chip that would increase the keyboard cost. The visual touchbar on the other hand is a key observation. To me the touchbar is a gimmick until every mac has it. Why design a program that uses the touchbar if only a fraction of your customers can access the feature? I imagine that Apple wants to use the touchbar to differentiate the pro line, but I feel like it fractures their ecosystem. I would like to see them add the ability to get the touchbar in all their devices to encourage software development. Since it's a Mac exclusive feature getting people dependent upon it would likely reduce churn.
 
I find the scrolling on the Magic Mouse so smooth compared to scroll wheels. When working with large files in Photoshop & Illustrator or coding in dreamweaver, or just simply browsing the web, The ability to flick up/down and left/right or just touch and scroll to navigate around in any direction is absolutely brilliant. I would never want to go back to a scroll wheel out of choice as in my kind of work they are too slow and clunky. It's just my personal choice though

Valid for those uses. Try blender with your Magic Mouse. Lack of a middle mouse button in the scroll wheel isn't resolved well enough by remapping commands.
 
This is a very valid question. I would only be guessing, but Touch ID might have a security issue when sending the signal via BT or else it would require a dedicated chip that would increase the keyboard cost.
People greatly underestimate just how secure Bluetooth can be. The initial pairing is a concern. If an attacker observes that, the actual keys used to secure the communications can be uncovered. Apple's pairing method (connecting the keyboard via Lightning once) gets around that.

Once the pairing is established, the endpoints use astonishingly strong encryption. If you took an ideal conventional computer (the kind you're using to read these comments) and funneled all of the energy the sun will ever emit through it, you might be able to crack it, after several million years.

TouchID's implementation is solid. The fingerprint fragment identifies the user, then the sensor attempts to authenticate the fingerprint fragment. If it believes it was presented an authentic (from a real finger, attached to a real, living human, &c.) fragment of a fingerprint on the list, it attests that the identity provided by the print is authentic. The actual print data never needs to leave the sensor. The attestation is extremely hard to falsify (again, gigantic computer, all the energy of the sun, and millions of years *after* burning all that to crack the Bluetooth key).

Adding TouchID would increase the costs slightly. I'd expect maybe +$20 retail. They could have done this with the MacBook Pro long ago, though, and they chose to wait and introduce it alongside the Touch Bar. I don't think they will introduce it on a separate keyboard until they can include the Touch Bar too.
 
Um, those look like the same craptastic Surface mouse & keyboard but with the name changed. The keyboard feels good, but the layout is difficult to use.
 
Brutal. This is exactly what I hope we can get with the MacBook Pro's at some point.

No touch bar, all the keys, but TouchID somewhere (integrated in a key would be awesome)
 
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Is it just me or would you put the fingerprint sensor in the mouse instead? That's seems more logical to me. I'd buy that.

First thing I thought, hell even if they hid it in the F or the J key would make more sense than wasting a key on the keyboard and then it would be truly hidden, but most people don't start using a computer from the keyboard so if they hid it in the mouse button that would be perfect, put your hand on the mouse and go.
 
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MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN APPLE. AND MUCH MORE RESOLVED IN DESIGN.

TRUTH HURTS.

INNOVATION ISNT OCCURING AT APPLE.

DIP THAT IMAC INTO DARK DYE, CALLED IT A PRO, BUT STILL NO PROGRESS OVERALL.
 
I like that the article totes that it is a "hidden" fingerprint sensor. As if the large key with a fingerprint on it was keeping the secret hidden.

****ing clickbate

It's hidden in the sense that just looking casually at the keyboard wouldn't indicate that there is some fingerprint sensor, because it looks like any other key. The goal isn't to hide it from the user, but hide it in the design (Vs Touch ID on the touchbar which is quite obviously a different texture from the rest of the touchbar.)
 
And how secure is the fingerprint information transmitted back to the host device? Can it be intercepted wirelessly?
Unlikely. It’s probably a signed statement saying “this is valid” or...not. Fingerprint information itself probably isn’t transmitted, much like on iOS.
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MORE BEAUTIFUL THAN APPLE. AND MUCH MORE RESOLVED IN DESIGN.

TRUTH HURTS.

INNOVATION ISNT OCCURING AT APPLE.

DIP THAT IMAC INTO DARK DYE, CALLED IT A PRO, BUT STILL NO PROGRESS OVERALL.
I can hear you in your inside voice, too.

The iMac Pro is an impressive feat for cramming a lot of power into a form factor that’s less than convenient for such a powerful machine.
 
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