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Microsoft Says 'We're Faster Than a Mac' in Latest Windows PC Ad

THis is quite frankly a dumb post from Macrumors. Will macrumors be updating us on a new ad from every PC maker that remotely even competes with an apple product? This is a not a nationally televised ad, and I'm not defending this dumb Ad, but its a simple 10 second tick tock ad that obviously had a minimal budget spent on it. But for Macrumors to pick this up as a front page item is frankly unnecessary and seems designed to bring out Apple lovers to shower Apple with the comments seen on this thread. I can understand at times posting on new hardware releases to keep us informed on what else may be out there in the tech world in terms of devices, but a front page entry to post re: a 10 second tick tock ad is frankly a waste of space.

This is coming from a mostly apple user here, but I try to have intelligent discussions on the competition out there. While I have an ipad pro, ipad mini, and a few Apple TVs around the house, I try to look into other products that may meet my daily productivity needs and I have found that a Surface pro that I more recently tried and purchased is just a more well rounded product for me with its pen functionality, full desktop OS, and 5G when I want to get work done as compared to an ipad or a mac....if Apple combines the 5g and touch screen capability with a more robust OS that I can run on an ipad pro, then that may be present a more complete use of a an all-encompassing work and productivity device from apple, which they refuse to do.

MS has been certainly slow to innovate in the ARM space and I'm glad Apple pioneered the Mseries chips to push the industry towards ARM. MS has certainly made progress towards app compatibility, and only very niche apps that most people do not use currently reportedly have issues with WOA.

I have had the M1 ipad for 3 years and now an M4 ipad pros and still cont to wait for the day that I can use them as seamlessly as a desktop OS while still have the touchscreen and 5G functionality that are important to me for a productivity machine. For me and for many others, the surface pro still works as a better all around machine.
 
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MacRumors said:


Microsoft today shared a new ad on YouTube with the tagline "we're faster than a Mac."

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In the video, Microsoft says the top-end Windows PCs with Copilot+ branding are up to 58% faster than the previous-generation MacBook Air with the M3 chip, based on Cinebench 2024 multi-core CPU benchmark results. The ad is citing old figures that were reported on all the way back in May 2024, so take that as you will.

While the ad is using an older MacBook Air for comparison purposes, Microsoft's fine print does say some Copilot+ PCs are still faster than even the latest MacBook Air models with the M4 chip, based on the same Cinebench 2024 benchmark.


Some of the Copilot+ PCs that were tested include Lenovo's Yoga Slim 7x with Qualcomm's Snapdragon X Elite processor, Microsoft's Surface Laptop with the Snapdragon X Elite, and HP's OmniBook Ultra 14 with AMD's Ryzen AI 9 HX 375.

While it is true that some PC chips are faster than Apple silicon chips in certain tests, Apple said the M4 family of chips continues to offer industry-leading performance per watt. This impressive power efficiency results in the MacBook Air having fast performance, long battery life, and a thin and light design without an internal fan.

In the end, using Windows over macOS remains a dealbreaker for some customers regardless.

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This a crock based on older Macs using Apple Silicon vs newer Intels latest processors. Okay, you can put that aside for now but run that same test after loading a Windows PC with all the apps you run and do the same on a Mac. As the Windows registry keys grow the PC will slow down during every boot. Linux and OSX don’t pollute the OS with application hooks.
 
Most non-pro-app tasks utilize only a single core, so a modern AS Mac will always feel significantly snappier than any PC during general use.
 
Wouldn’t the fair test be a comparison with the M4-based MacBook Pros? If we’re talking about higher-end machines?
 
I have a Windows laptop that I use only for games that aren't available on the Mac. For laughs, I timed each of their startup times. My Mac was ready to use in under 30 seconds. The Windows laptop took two and a half minutes before I could begin to use it, and even then it kept hiccuping for the next few minutes while various items in the task bar loaded. If there are updates waiting in the wings, that time could extend to five minutes or more. It's absurd.
 
They certainly are faster at creating software so insecure they have users dumb enough to pay them a subscription fee on a monthly basis for protection against problems that are many times entirely of their own making …. 🤦‍♂️
 
jayducharme said:
I have a Windows laptop that I use only for games that aren't available on the Mac. For laughs, I timed each of their startup times. My Mac was ready to use in under 30 seconds. The Windows laptop took two and a half minutes before I could begin to use it, and even then it kept hiccuping for the next few minutes while various items in the task bar loaded. If there are updates waiting in the wings, that time could extend to five minutes or more. It's absurd.
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2 and half minutes for boot up?! Sounds like a large workstation or an old system from the 90s. My windows machine from a cold boot will be up and running within 15-20 seconds, perhaps a few seconds slower than the M1 Pro Macbook pro I used to have. One advantage of these ARM chips for windows of course is a similar sleep state to a mac where very little power is drawn and a fairly instant boot up from sleep as well.

Just calling out the "2 and a half minute" exaggeration ;)
 
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I put my headphones on to watch that - and regretted it. I even thought I'd clicked on the wrong video. But no ...
 
BelgianChoklit said:
- and then there's something I have no idea on how to explain this difference. I use a certain website to send out quotation requests to sub-contractors, this website is sluggish on Windows, but smooth like crazy on macOS. And I tried this with Safari, Brave, Firefox and Edge and there is no performance difference between the browsers, the difference is between the machines. My Mac handles that website so smoothly
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Since the advent of the M1 chips, in some of the benchmarks shown on the usual channels like MaxTech and similar, they would compare some web browser speed benchmarks (forgot the name, speedometer I think was the app name), and the M chips would fly through the tests, getting sometimes scores 2x and 3x higher than previous Intel Macs or in more recent times, “equivalent”* non Mac laptops.

*I put “equivalent” in quotes because those laptops boasted having 4080s GPUs inside it yet would run out of battery in an hour and be throttled to a crawl when on battery power.

The other thing that I like about Macs is the ecosystem that the EU is hell bent on disrupting… can go from my desktop to my laptop and not dread it, the thing unlocks with the Apple Watch, whatever I had copied over there can be pasted here, maybe see a message arrive on my phone right there on the Mac, connect to the phone via iPhone mirroring, take a screenshot of the contents of the screen, it appears on the iPad next to it to annotate with the pencil, resume, etc… for hours and hours on end on a single battery charge.

So tired of the “Mac sucks” discourse.
 
kitt9000 said:
I'm glad the ARM space is taking off which apple pioneered. Until the Mac is able to have a touchscreen and 5G, a mac is a no go for me, despite being an Apple fan. iPad pro 11 used for mostly media consumption given the more basic OS but nice hardware, but a surface pro 11 does more than a mac for me including always on 5G to work on the go and ability to sign documents and use apps with a full desktop OS available.
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I'd rather not have 5G if that meant not having to work on the go.
 
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Apple needs to lift their game on Macs. iPhones have been so much faster than Androids for so long that Samsung haven't even brought up performance comparisons for years now. For the price we pay for Macs, which still only have IPS displays, they should be faster than any PC laptop any maker can afford to bring to market.
 
I'll take a computer that is still useful after 13 years. My 2012 Air is still doing real work. How many Microsoft products are still doing that?

Faster, snappier, whatever. I'll take things that do what you need to do and last for ages.
 
compares top end windows machine to previous gen air - ok now compare it to current gen maxed out MacBook Pro?
 
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