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I used to LOVE Windows and Bill Gates (my last name is Gates, no relation to Bill). Once I tried Mac it was incredibly easy, powerful, and most of the issues that I had with Windows disappeared. I stepped away from Windows so hard I've forgotten most of the system tricks I knew for years because they were just ways to navigate a terrible OS.
 
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Even if true, You'll have to reboot it multiple times before getting to your desktop upon first login. And when you finally have the opportunity to run cinebench, you'll get multiple sequential prompts to subscribe to ****ware service offers and add ons.
 
The Surface laptop range is pretty great, IMO. Most have no meaningful options vs. Apple making everyone choose Air vs. Pro, storage capacity, CPU, etc... "Any color the customer wants, so long as it's black."
 
I don’t get why Mac guys have to run down Windows and vice versa.
I recently made the switch back to Mac, but still like a lot of things about windows. Hopefully both do great things and force each other to innovate.
 
Hmm, in battery mode? And which stopped working first on battery?

I was visiting one of our satellite sites this week and testing a new glass fibre connection. I had my MacBook Air running multiple pings, playing back a 4K video stream in the background, plus my usual apps (Outlook, TeamViewer, Teams, Swyx and so on), a woman from the telecoms company had a MacBook Pro, were both on battery power, the others from the telecoms company were using Windows laptops (various Dell and Lenovo models) and were looking for spare power sockets in the server room after a couple of hours.

At 6 hours, my MacBook Air M4 was still around 60% charged and I forgot to turn off my Mac when we were finished and the pings ran all night (video was stopped), the next morning the battery was around 28% (screen off).
 
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who doesn't love updates, updates, and more updates with windows PCs. I feel like with a Mac, for work especially, I can set up the machine and someone can use it for years without my intervention. With our windows PCs, I am constantly dealing with driver issues, updates, etc.
Unfortunately that is not the case, for me. Yes, the Windows updates every month are more common. But on the Mac, I have to regularly enter the administrator password to update Brave, Discord, Luminar suite, Parallels etc.

Being the head of IT, I do have access to the administrator password and I can update those apps myself, but our users would be calling up every week to get something updated. Some apps on Windows do have the same problem (E.g. the Siemens PLC software, but we get calls to update that very rarely, usually just when setting up a new machine as the MCT department rarely want to update a working production control system running on an isolated network).
 
Apple loves talking about performance per watt, and they do win there, but for those who want raw processing power, Intel/AMD/NVidia run circles around Apple Silicon.

On laptops I do care about performance per watt. On my desktop, I'm happy to run a 1000 watt power supply and send my A/C into overdrive.
I actually replaced my Ryzen 1700 PC with a Mac mini M1 in 2021, because the Mac mini could run my photo editing software (Serif and Luminar products) as fast as the desktop Ryzen, but used a fraction of the electricity. This worked out well when the invasion of the Ukraine started and electricity prices jumped to from 25c to 45c per Kilowatt Hour...
 
Everyone relax, they are just ads; no reality intended.

Apple should revise the old "I'm a Mac and I'm a PC" ads. This time they should be: I'm a Mac and What's a PC?. After decades of MS bloatware the copywriters would have unlimited material to work from.
Just imagine John Hodgman trying to get a sentence out and he keeps interrupting himself with ads for CoPilot or Microsoft 365 or Candy Crush...
 
I'll take a computer that is still useful after 13 years. My 2012 Air is still doing real work. How many Microsoft products are still doing that?

Faster, snappier, whatever. I'll take things that do what you need to do and last for ages.
Sure, but your MacBook Air stopped getting updates in 2022 from Apple, while if you boot into Windows 10 on that same machine, you can still get updates until October 2025.
 
Macs have an advantage with battery life although it's often exaggerated. You can easily disable a lot of junk on Windows then get maybe a couple of hours more, also depending on what's running in the background by default. This is not really that big of a problem on Mac OS. I don't have anything running in the background or on auto start unless it's absolutely necessary whether it be on desktop or on laptops.
 
After been using the Surface Pro with the Qualcomm ARM Cpu at work I'm impressed. X86 compability when it comes to apps, battery performance, great speed, I do like it alot. It's a testdevice as we use HP mainly but I have to say that I really don't wanna go back to the "old" x86 versions.
Windows 11 don't get that many more updates than MacOS these days, its the regular patch Tuesday and MacOS has a similar amount but not scheduled the same foreseeable way.

I use mainly Office apps and especially Teams, and that app kills battery on X86.

The formfactor on the Surface Pro isn't ideal, I'd rather have the Surface Laptop. And the touchscreen is quite useless, as I use it as a regular laptop most of the time.

Glad to see MS delivers and they will keep pushing Apple and many others to deliver even better stuff.

Another postivie aspect these days it that it really doesn't matter what plattform you are using for office work. We have Macs at work and its nice to see that they run MS365 services and apps very well. Don't think these two plattforms has ever been coexisting in an office environment as they do now.
I agree, while I use a Mac, I see how good the Qualcomm actually is, for Windows. Teams is a real pain on Windows, especially with low memory or on battery.

I had a Lenovo ThinkPad T480 with 8GB RAM, every time I got a multi-way Teams call, I would have to quit every other app to stop it stuttering (it was heavily swapping out memory, causing everything to crawl and Teams video to stutter). Adding another 8GB made it better. Then I switched to an 8GB M1 Air and it ran Teams fine, I didn't have to quit apps when doing a 6-way conference.

It still kills the Air's battery faster than it should, but it certainly works better on the Mac than on Windows. Just a Microsoft doesn't put as much care into the rest of the Office 365 suite...
 
Sure, but your MacBook Air stopped getting updates in 2022 from Apple, while if you boot into Windows 10 on that same machine, you can still get updates until October 2025.
That was my problem with a first generation Intel iMac, Apple dropped support with Lion, but Microsoft Windows was still getting updates in 2019 when the mainboard died. I still have a working 2010 Sony Vaio laptop, which will get Windows updates until October and a 2016 HP Spectre X360, which is in the same boat. They are both very slow, compared to modern Windows PCs or Macs, but they both still work fine for basic office work, although I rarely turn them on these days, I use my MacBook Pro instead.

The same at work, we are replacing a few hundred PCs this year, because they are 6-12 years old and "just work", but can't switch to Windows 11 in October.
 
faster at getting thrown away than a mac, thats for sure
I've got a couple of hundred PCs between 6 and 12 years old still running our business, that I need to replace this year, because they won't run Windows 11... But 12 years is a good run in anyones book.

We also have a couple of PCs left over from the late 90s and early 2000s for special tasks (E.g. metal sign printer that runs under MS-DOS and needs a parallel port and won't work on newer hardware or in a virtual machine). We bought a 30 year old back-up printer for around 6K a couple of years back, so you can guess how much those things are new, if it is still worth buying a 30 year old model for 6K...
 
We are that crossroads once again, Apple, Qualcomm and AMD have all come as close in terms of most criteria including cost, performance and battery life. The question is, is which one diverges up or down from here. Who becomes most complacent? Who places the wrong bet?

Windows still has the largest user base by far, and x86 on desktop still holds a strong yet tenuous lead.
Everything points to ARM at the moment, but if we tare the scale at this moment in time, we come to as close to all being equal as we ever have.
Who has the crystal ball to see where the future heads from here. My only guess would be one without Intel.

We already know Intel completely blew their monopoly. ( i have no idea how incompetent you have to be for that), and we still have to see how bad the outcome will be from Apple blowing it in terms of Nuvia, servers and AI.
Real-world battery life still favours Apple at the moment, but Qualcomm and AMD can get a full days work done with their current chips, not as good as the Air (I had 60% after running network tests, including 4K video streaming this week, plus I forgot to turn it off when we were finished and it carried on running the ping-tests over night, with the display off, and had 28% left in the morning).

When I had to replace my Air at work, I wanted another Air, but we are mainly a Windows shop and mine is the only Mac, so I was looking at the Qualcomm devices, but we are pretty much stuck with Intel at the moment, so I boxed through a workspace replacement like-for-like (i.e. newer model of what I already had) to get the M4 Air. But I'd have really liked to get an HP or Dell Qualcomm device for testing.
 
I'm glad the ARM space is taking off which apple pioneered. Until the Mac is able to have a touchscreen and 5G, a mac is a no go for me, despite being an Apple fan. iPad pro 11 used for mostly media consumption given the more basic OS but nice hardware, but a surface pro 11 does more than a mac for me including always on 5G to work on the go and ability to sign documents and use apps with a full desktop OS available.
I would not trade macOS just because of missing 5g but it is a constant pain point. I guess they don't want to cannibalize iPad sales but it is a true nuisance in the days of eSims that the MacBooks still don't have mobile connectivity. I hate to constantly have to use hotspot. I just want to open my laptop and start working without having to wait for my iPhone to pop up and connect. touch I frankly don't care much. I always thought I would but frankly don't use it a lot. With the surface I see that point as you can use it as tablet as well. On a tablet I use the pencil to comment on pdfs, do sketches, etc. But unless you can kind of fold away the screen, not a lot of need on a Mac.
 
Sure. Now, talk about the compatibility of X64-86 based apps on the Arm powered Surface you’re advertising to be faster than a MacBook Air. Sure, it’ll be faster, but it won’t be nearly as versatile as the MacBook Air with any M-series chip.
Yes, change from power pc was ok but change from x86 to arm was IMO very smooth. I didn’t buy the first Mac I bought the MacBook Pro M1 Max but I hade very very few issue with software not working.

If have tried some software on Windows arm and say that many software can’t even complete the installer
 
Yes, change from power pc was ok but change from x86 to arm was IMO very smooth. I didn’t buy the first Mac I bought the MacBook Pro M1 Max but I hade very very few issue with software not working.

If have tried some software on Windows arm and say that many software can’t even complete the installer
I haven't found a single software that can't run on the new Qualcomm CPUs, the x86 emulation is working really well.
I have read tho that some games do struggle, but that was 6 months back so my guess there is that some of those issues are prob solved. I don't game so that might be one reason why I haven't run into issues.

Do you have an example of SW that don't work? Would be fun to try and install to see if these issues still persist.
 
My powerful PC workstation sure does feel faster than my Mac… until I open the software I use and it’s slow as hell because it’s poorly optimised. After Effects is painful to use on Windows and is 2-4 times slower for rendering and RAM previews. I recently moved back to macOS and got a Mac Studio and I couldn’t be happier.
 
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