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Acceptable statement untill the "gimmick" part, an unprofessional statement.
Windows is a bad operating system. iOS is even worse (not to mention Android). With Apple phasing out the Mac (which cannot compete with the iPad Pro according to Apple), the only possible choice is an open source UNIX-like flavor. If any of the new Microsoft machines can run an UNIX-like OS, they'll be certainly tempting purchases.
OK I was comparing Apples to Apples (no pun intended) macOS vs Win10 not iOS vs Win10.
macOS does have this feature. For iOS it doesn't make that much difference other than a loss of about 10 minutes with the device, you'll stop receiving update notifications when your phone is no longer supported by Apple. The most likely to be hacked Apple device you own is your iPhone because it's in the public most often. I'd think you'd want those security patches.
everytime they say "we tested it, and we didn't like it!" as an excuse makes me scratch my head.
so, the testing of a dozen designers is supposed to over-rule potential millions in sales?
And the thing that bothers me most about a lot of the fanboyism about touchscreens in OSx is this mindset that it's a zero sum game. All or nothing. The arguments always end up like this
iFanBoy: BUT TOUCH SCREENS ARE STUPID, APPLE TOLD ME SO
MSFanBoy: But I have a touch screen and I love it.
iFanBoy: BUT why would I want a touch screen when I have a trackpad which is better!
Here's a hint:
you can have BOTH! a trackpad AND a touchscreen. and develope your own workflows that can use both, either, or neither! But thats the point of the whole coversation. Option. user choice.
I have started using touchscreens in laptops, and let me tell you, the amount of times I've reached up to tap something on the screen quickly, is far easier than using the trackpad for many things. Not all mind you, but many.
the very point is, by not even offering a touch screen in an Apple computer, There is zero choice to use one should you so please. By offering a touchscreen in an Apple computer, Even as a BTO add on, You offer the user choice in their use.
I for one, when using my laptop, find it much faster to reach up from the keyboard, and directly touch the application on the launcher I want to use. Much faster than using the trackpad, finding my cursor, moving my cursor, and clicking. But as I said,
But at the end of the day, I do take resentment that if I want a new Apple computer with a touchscreen, I have Apple's Cabal of leadership telling me that since they don't like touchscreens, i'm not allowed to have one.
Apple wil not phase out macOS anytime soon.
We might be already buried when this happens.
So don't worry...
Designers (professional designers) were a key market for Apple. But Apple decided to ignore them. The key market is iToys teenagers now.
While Apple handles updates slightly differently (And in many cases they're often slower to release critical patches because of it), Apple isn't innocent in their update policies either.
For Example, the IOS6 to 7 migration, that forcably downloaded iOS7 to all idevices with the space free, regardless if they said yes or no. and not deletable from your device unless deleted.
OSx frequently reminds me that I have updates that have to be installed, Whether or not I asked to have them downloaded or not. Sure, I can keep deffering the install, but like Windows, macOS already has downloaded it, and the options are "now, later tonight, tomorrow" for the reminder. There's no option to NOT take the update (though, take the updates, they're for our safety)
Microsoft gets a bad rap (and often deservedly, Windows update did drain my battery today fro 100% to 30% in 1 hour cause, windows), but MacOS has some of it's own glaring problems with updates too.
Not at all, I'm just relating to the fact that on non-public facing critical business systems that are firewalled off adequately end up rebooting during times where it is needed. Although the security is not being updated on the machine, it must stay on and in a functional state. Ask anyone who works in IT business, there is a certain amount of risk involved when you install Windows updates, even weeks after they have been deployed, pulled, and deployed again. This isn't that much of a problem for home users but as a business IT admin, if an update causes a program to stop working on a critical system, I have to pause the other 50 things that needed to be done yesterday, to get this critical system back online. Meanwhile the other 100 things I need to get done get pushed back even further on their completion dates.
Most people scream "ew" when they hear windows because of an old bad experience with windows on a cheap machine. Seriously. You wouldnt believe the amount of people i've met who:
- Had a bad experience hardware wise with a cheapo $500 windows laptop, so bought a $1300 macbook and have nothing but high praises for...a more expensive device
- Complain about windows and how terrible it is when their last experience with it was vista
Windows 10 has come a long way. I loaded it onto an old laptop from 2009. 2009! And it made it run smooth like a new laptop. Not saying its the best ever or that its for everyone, but i think anybody looking for a new laptop/desktop in the next year owes it to themselves to research and consider windows. And i never thought i would say that. There are actually things on the windows side i miss when using mac OS. Can you believe that? Like i'll open up a macbook and think "ah. But windows 10 has X feature". Unbelievable times we're living in when i can say that
I think the MS Studio is nice, but not for me, not for the price, just not what I need to do my JOB.
As for All the negative complaints Windows 10, is it about the OS itself? Complaining about 2 control panels? Really, is this your big issue? What's really a mess about it? I have been running Windows 10 since it came out. I don't work in the OS, I run my applications in it and it works flawlessly. I am a developer, using Visual Studio 2015, SQL Server Developer, etc, not one issue running these apps. I have Hyper V running w/ 2 VM's always on and running, all on my Windows 10 Enterprise machine. Who spends all their time messing with the OS must not really have any real work to do or you are just board. I have never used a MacOS and if I did, I am sure I would find it messy, for the first few days of using it, but in the end, I Use the SOFTWARE on the OS, so to me, the OS doesn't really matter other than stability. As for Windows 10 Stability, it's wonderful. I have only had one issue with Windows 10 and that was in the beginning when it first came out, but since then, it's been smooth sailing.
As for you with stability problems with your gaming PCs, this is probably 99% driver issue. Like someone else said, with a MAC, you are limited to what Apple gives you and they tweak the drivers perfectly. On the PC side of things, you have many different motherboard manufactures, multiple video card architectures, Sound Cards, etc, the driver is always going to be an issue with stability. I too, have a custom built gaming PC, that is now 3+ years old, only thing I have changed it is upgraded the HHD to an SSD and the Video Card. The only time I ever get stability issues is when I upgrade my video drivers, other than that, it works like a charm. Once I find a stable driver, I stick with it and never have stability issues after that, but this is the price I pay for building my own PC.
As for All the negative complaints Windows 10, is it about the OS itself? Complaining about 2 control panels? Really, is this your big issue? What's really a mess about it? I have been running Windows 10 since it came out. I don't work in the OS, I run my applications in it and it works flawlessly. I am a developer, using Visual Studio 2015, SQL Server Developer, etc, not one issue running these apps. I have Hyper V running w/ 2 VM's always on and running, all on my Windows 10 Enterprise machine. Who spends all their time messing with the OS must not really have any real work to do or you are just board. I have never used a MacOS and if I did, I am sure I would find it messy, for the first few days of using it, but in the end, I Use the SOFTWARE on the OS, so to me, the OS doesn't really matter other than stability. As for Windows 10 Stability, it's wonderful. I have only had one issue with Windows 10 and that was in the beginning when it first came out, but since then, it's been smooth sailing.
As for you with stability problems with your gaming PCs, this is probably 99% driver issue. Like someone else said, with a MAC, you are limited to what Apple gives you and they tweak the drivers perfectly. On the PC side of things, you have many different motherboard manufactures, multiple video card architectures, Sound Cards, etc, the driver is always going to be an issue with stability. I too, have a custom built gaming PC, that is now 3+ years old, only thing I have changed it is upgraded the HHD to an SSD and the Video Card. The only time I ever get stability issues is when I upgrade my video drivers, other than that, it works like a charm. Once I find a stable driver, I stick with it and never have stability issues after that, but this is the price I pay for building my own PC.
"Gross"? My god...the valley girl has come out in everybody. Like OMG.
Who in their right mind see's a surface studio and thinks "ew. Gross"?
What do you say to a person who owns a $3500 Windows PC that has enough issues to make them consider getting a Mac Pro?
What do you say to a person who had a Windows and Mac Laptop that both cost $2100 and Windows ran like poo on the PC but when used in Bootcamp it performed like a champ?
I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just giving real examples of my experiences and why Apple still makes better hardware. Now their software (macOS).... Still needs work, Sierra has been a bit of a saving grace and possibly the best macOS distribution since Snow Leopard, but still no where close to being as stable.
Only those who believe the boat won't sink, even though they are standing in water.
Yeah...I understand updates are important to some extent. But personally I'd rather my phone stayed fast and zippy. IMO every piece of hardware works best with the OS it was designed/launched with.
Oh...and you're talking to someone that still runs a happy lab full of Snow Leopard 2011 Mac minis...with zero faults/problems over the past 5 years.
Great little OS. Stable as hell.
All anecdotal, which is good to understand the "WHY" question, but cannot be really used to give a broad picture of the ecosystem
as a user of both, I can assure you i've had the same problems on both devices, I've had different problems on either device.
at the end of the day, I've realized that neither OSx nor Windows is flawless. Both have bugs in places and both fundamentally offer the same outcomes.
You can also get crappy machiens from both companies. There are enough anecdotes on this forum alone of people who have been with apple for 20 years, but have had to take their machines in almost yearly for repairs. There are also stories of people using cheap $500 windows computers who have never ever had to have maintenance.
they're all just anecdotes and don't really accurately reflect a larger picture.
if you don't like using Windows, that's fine. I don't like using BeOS anymore so I don't
But I'm not going to sit here and say how ugly it is, how stupid it is, and base my opinions on something I haven't used in 15 years, because 15 years ago it was crap.But then again, there are some really ****** PC makers out there making some crappy products that still charge a lot for them. Just like there are a couple really ****** Apple products
(2014 Mac Mini anyone )
I say if you have tried both and decided mac is better for you, then i fully support your decision as a consumer voting with your hard earned money.
But i also say if you are like a couple people i know (I'm looking at you co-workers!) that haven't tried windows for a decade, then have an opinion about how much it must CURRENTLY suck and go around bashing windows based on old ideas, then your opinion sucks. It just does. You wouldn't believe the amount of people that i meet that have used mac for a long time who argue "but windows doesn't do this" and i have to correct them. Uh. Yes it does? What information are you going on?
I think we should be students of technology and ready to enjoy all of it without being tied to one company or another. I despise tribalism. When microsoft sucked under steve balmer for many years, they deserved all the criticism they got. When they have a new CEO and are actively trying hard to steer the company in the right direction, i think they deserve at least an open mind. If a windows computer isn't for you, great. But i think an open mind is needed or else we're no better than fanboys
I completely agree, and I'm trying to be, but between Vista's downfall of releasing it on under powered hardware and no real improvement over XP in 7 and a struggle with 8/8.1 and 10 I'm losing faith in MS. I only use Windows at this point because I have to manage several Windows Servers.
I meant "every other" in the sense that new computers in the next 12-24 months on both Mac and Windows will be pushing the USB-C standard and the Surface Studio owners will be out of luck after dropping $3-$4K. Just seemed odd.
As for Thunderbolt 1 and 2 adoption, Apple had already gone all in on MiniDisplayPort so it was an easy manufacturing change for them to be the Thunderbolt pioneers. With USB-C/Thunderbolt 3, there have been quite a few Windows machines that beat Apple to the punch in 2016 - Dell, HP, Razer, and others. With Thunderbolt 3 taking the shape of USB-C, I expect Thunderbolt to be much more prominent going forward.
Nice, thanks for the reply, really respect you creative folk I wish I could express myself like you folk do.
Cheers