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Microsoft Surface Studio Reviews: Apple Fans Might Be 'Tempted to Switch Camps', Despite High Price
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The actual drawing part of it is better with the iPad Pro +Apple Pencil. Zero lag. It's the first stylus that I've used for either desktop or tablet that totally eliminated the mental awareness of "I'm drawing on a computer screen and have to accept the various compromises".
My gaming computer's total cost was $3500 so about £3000 if I remember exchange rates correctly. My Mac was $3100.
My Mac has:
Ran virtual environments (4 simultaneously with 2 procs each and 8 GB of RAM) actually created a virtual domain environment with email, a web server, a DC, and a client
Hosted music production projects that used up 18 GB of RAM spun across 70 tracks each with at least 4 plugin instances.
Hosted a development environment with small projects.
Performed countless video conversions when transferring a Windows created movie collection (legitimately ripped from DVD for digital archiving) to Mac.
Performed some serious calculations on my music collection to figure out BPM and song key (for DJing) (8 cores maxed for 36 hours straight)
My PC has:
Played Fallout 4 for 2 hours then crashing because of a driver fault.
In my experience, Apple seems to be putting better quality hardware (not necessarily performance) in their computers.
As for you, I feel for you, I have friends who have had issues like that and I can definitely understand your point of view.
They're likely to have a lot of Windows users. Autodesk tends to be Windows heavy. Some applications only work in Windows. Windows is often better supported, and many of those applications are not easy to maintain on Linux if you intend to use the gui portion.
I haven't owned a cintiq, but with wacom it's always one thing or another. It was easy to mar the screen coating on some of the earlier models. They use really cheap soldering on their usb connections. It's always a $2 part issue.
I was speaking more generally about wacom though, suggesting that people who are tired of dealing with wacom anything may consider it. Reading it back it's confusing since I explicitly mentioned cintiq (as both involve touch screen interfaces).
I agree, although I'm all about Apple, Satya has really done wonders for Microsoft. It's good to see them in a state where they can actually compete. I was thrilled when they announced they were going to make their own hardware.
you do know that those artists use wacoms and comic book artists like macfarlene uses a screen that is similar to this surface but smaller. No one has replaced their computer setup w wacom or other touch tech to use the ipad. The main reason its not a full OS.
You can't tell Windows not to update automatically, it will eventually go through, with Pro versions you can defer updates up to 6 months but they eventually get installed on that machine. With Enterprise, you can choose to defer upgrades up to 2 years? before they get installed and it allows you to use WSUS to manage them. However, security updates are not deferred on Pro machines so lets face it, you can't. With Apple, I can defer every upgrade indefinitely.
The main reason is that legacy software developers tend to want to limit tablets to accessory status, while non-legacy developers are more open to bringing a wider range of functionality. Affinity is going to bring 100% of the features/functionality of Affinity Photo to iOS, for example.
Do any of the reviews touch upon the very poor line quality when you draw slowly? I spent nearly 30mins with the Surface Studio in the Microsoft store and when you draw a line slowly it comes up very jagged and rough. Not a smooth clean line like you get from Wacom tablets.
It's a BEAUTIFUL machine for sure, but the line quality isn't crisp. Also, the surface dial does slip, even with the monitor all the way down. It's a lot easier to keep it next to the PC and use rather than placing it on the screen.
It's a BEAUTIFUL machine for sure, but the line quality isn't crisp. Also, the surface dial does slip, even with the monitor all the way down. It's a lot easier to keep it next to the PC and use rather than placing it on the screen.
Valid point, though none of these START at $3k. Additionally, you can select an SSD on the iMacs. You can't on the Surface Studio. I would imagine anyone "souping up" a 27" iMac would be opting for the SSD.
My gaming computer's total cost was $3500 so about £3000 if I remember exchange rates correctly. My Mac was $3100.
My Mac has:
Ran virtual environments (4 simultaneously with 2 procs each and 8 GB of RAM) actually created a virtual domain environment with email, a web server, a DC, and a client
Hosted music production projects that used up 18 GB of RAM spun across 70 tracks each with at least 4 plugin instances.
Hosted a development environment with small projects.
Performed countless video conversions when transferring a Windows created movie collection (legitimately ripped from DVD for digital archiving) to Mac.
Performed some serious calculations on my music collection to figure out BPM and song key (for DJing) (8 cores maxed for 36 hours straight)
My PC has:
Played Fallout 4 for 2 hours then crashing because of a driver fault.
In my experience, Apple seems to be putting better quality hardware (not necessarily performance) in their computers.
As for you, I feel for you, I have friends who have had issues like that and I can definitely understand your point of view.
Sorry , I think I came across a little too confrontational there. You have a valid point
Apple wins as it gets to optimise select hardware they control, and they also set their drivers for stable performance
Windows , especially GPU drivers strive for performance over stable.... hence issues
I guarantee you that if you bought a nvidia quadro you driver issues would be so much simpler than the latest 980ti drivers .
I use macs for my day to day issue free operation these days, I use my PCs for performance tasks.
I've found that cooling makes a massive difference to life of my computers. My 2013 PC watercooled has not missed a beat and needed a system rebuilt ....annoyingly cause I was wanting to upgrade
If you like to tinker windows is great, if you want a system/hardware free experience , macs rock
I still dont get why macOS works great with no anti virus yet I would never boot W10 or W7 without Norton 3.0
Is it because Windows is on approx 90% of worldwide computers and naughty people have thought there is a bigger market for their naughtiness with Windows.?
Why cant W10 be safe without antivirus (which I have always thought slows the machine down).
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Not at all, it's a good discussion. I just wish that your torture victim held out for you a little longer.
One of the major benefits of Apple is they make their hardware and the software so they are significantly more stable. With MS offering their own hardware, they should be capable of doing the same at this point. It would be interesting to see the stability of an MS PC versus a Dell or others over the next couple years. It seems like if they focus on limited configurations like Apple does, they could really create a rock solid OS/hardware combo.My gaming computer's total cost was $3500 so about £3000 if I remember exchange rates correctly. My Mac was $3100.
My Mac has:
Ran virtual environments (4 simultaneously with 2 procs each and 8 GB of RAM) actually created a virtual domain environment with email, a web server, a DC, and a client
Hosted music production projects that used up 18 GB of RAM spun across 70 tracks each with at least 4 plugin instances.
Hosted a development environment with small projects.
Performed countless video conversions when transferring a Windows created movie collection (legitimately ripped from DVD for digital archiving) to Mac.
Performed some serious calculations on my music collection to figure out BPM and song key (for DJing) (8 cores maxed for 36 hours straight)
My PC has:
Played Fallout 4 for 2 hours then crashing because of a driver fault.
In my experience, Apple seems to be putting better quality hardware (not necessarily performance) in their computers.
As for you, I feel for you, I have friends who have had issues like that and I can definitely understand your point of view.
I've found that cooling makes a massive difference to life of my computers. My 2013 PC watercooled has not missed a beat and needed a system rebuilt ....annoyingly cause I was wanting to upgrade
As for system cooling, I'm running water cooled in my Desktop as well, both CPU and GPU coolers (seahawk is standard LC'd) CPU is cooled by a Corsair H110 liquid cooler. My temps stay pretty low, 20c -GPU and 40c - CPU while idle, and jump up to ~56c and ~69c respectively while gaming and OC'd (I've turned off the OC since I experienced issues). I'm not upset with my purchase, I just wish the stability was there.
Wait, what? I don't have any antivirus on either computer except the standard stuff (Windows Defender, GateKeeper). And my W10 boots fine, it sounds like you have a leftover registry setting trying to load up Norton at boot. You may try to uninstall it again or download a complete uninstaller from norton's website if you really don't want it. I run without extra AV simply because I keep a list of websites that I visit in my head that I know are 100% safe. Windows Firewall is already good enough no sense in downloading another 3rd party that might open up a security hole all in itself (link).
I had to setup a surface pro 4 for my boss at work, within 2 days the Stylus was dead (new batteries didn't change a thing). He messed around with it for about half an hour and asked if anyone else wanted it for work. The person he gave it to doesn't even use it because the screen is too small. The surface pro 4 works great and really shines on it's own but Microsoft still has a ways to go with getting that stylus up and running.
>170 comments so far and less than a handful calling out this machine for it's mobile processor and USB 3 standard (new MacBook Pro ships with USB 3.1 Gen 2). If you go look at the MBP threads all you see are people calling out Apple for using inadequate tech and overpricing it, but here...
...crickets and complements.
I think Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field has collapsed and resulted in an inverted effect. Mass criticism for a new MacBook Pro which is actually using new technology and mass adoration of a Microsoft product that is so very far behind with internals AND ALMOST NO ONE EVEN NOTICES.
MR, you have come a long ways, baby, but I don't particularly like the direction you have chosen.
...crickets and complements.
I think Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field has collapsed and resulted in an inverted effect. Mass criticism for a new MacBook Pro which is actually using new technology and mass adoration of a Microsoft product that is so very far behind with internals AND ALMOST NO ONE EVEN NOTICES.
MR, you have come a long ways, baby, but I don't particularly like the direction you have chosen.