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Microsoft to Launch iPhone Rival on Verizon Early Next Year?

umm, doesn't microsoft already have a mobile phone program?

heh, i just don't think that says volumes? Blackberry, samsung have created iphone copycats.

That said, i don't love monopolies... and who knows maybe in this case Microsoft will have some good ideas.

Apple has been dragging its heels alot lately on new tech... iphone 3g is essentially the same phone as 2 years ago, only update was 3g, nothing else of importance was updated except the software.

lets hope this new tech pushes apple to start innovating again.
 
mdntcallr said:
umm, doesn't microsoft already have a mobile phone program?

heh, i just don't think that says volumes? Blackberry, samsung have created iphone copycats.

That said, i don't love monopolies... and who knows maybe in this case Microsoft will have some good ideas.

Apple has been dragging its heels alot lately on new tech... iphone 3g is essentially the same phone as 2 years ago, only update was 3g, nothing else of importance was updated except the software.

lets hope this new tech pushes apple to start innovating again.
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They do, and its a failure. If they join forces with Verizon, then it'll be double the failure:)
 
Only hyper-nerds will buy this platform. Everyone else will still buy the iPhone. (see Zune for proof)
End of story.
 
jav6454 said:
So much I wish they die slowly and painfully in a fire.



I don't want the RAZR story with the iPhone. I want a quality phone not a phone that is available in quantities. Verizon does not offer quality, they only bone you and rape your wallet.
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really, and I thought AT&T did that.:confused: Verizon has the best coverage out there period. Apple will force Verizon to do it their way because they will want the subscibers. Just like they did with AT&T.
 
jav6454 said:
I want a quality phone not a phone that is available in quantities.
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I agree. Nokia quality went down the toilet the moment they decided to make incredible amounts of different phones at the same time. Just check out their page. At any time they have over 100 different models in their range.

I don't think though that quality will suffer if Apple will make another iPhone version.
 
str1f3 said:
really, and I thought AT&T did that.:confused: Verizon has the best coverage out there period. Apple will force Verizon to do it their way because they will want the subscibers. Just like they did with AT&T.
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Verizon has terrible service, which why they should rot. Verizon will never let go their stupid V-cast crap. It doesn't even like phones on their network without the dumb logo.
 
Before I say this I'd like to say yes I do support Apple. I myself have an iPhone and a Mac. Now, some of the mentality of you Apple fanboys/girls is absolutely obscene. "I don't want iPhone on Verizon" what does it even matter to you if it is released on Verizon or T-mobile or Sprint, what does it matter? You got ATT you like it, thats great, glad you're happy. By saying this in essence you are saying you wish the iPhone to fail because you wish to limit its customer base to only those who use ATT. I've heard it lots of times from my friends, "I wish I had an iPhone but I am not going to get one because I don't have ATT." Some people don't like ATT just like most people here don't like Microsoft, it's the same thing. Why would you try to force someone to use a service from a company they don't like just to have a product that they do like? That's like if I forced you to use Microsoft Word on Windows (just to use as an example).

Another thing that you seem to believe is that Apple is some jealous human being with the mentality that "If you choose to sell the other guy's thing you can't sell ours." A word out to the people who think that. NEVER START A BUSINESS! You seem to forget with all this talk about innovation and user friendliness and the apple experience, which I do believe all these things are true about Apple, the real truth of the matter is the only thing Apple is REALLY concerned about is making cash. Just like Microsoft. Thats the only thing Apple is really concerned about it making money and increasing their market share. Apple has just figured out that being innovative making their products easy to use having good customer support and throwing the word innovative around earns them MONEY. I can guarentee you if they weren't turning a profit off their innovations they wouldn't do it. That being said, releasing iPhone on Verizon opens the device up to a whole new customer base in where Apple can make more money. So whether Microsoft releases a phone with Verizon or not is irrelevant. Thats bad business to not release your product on a platform just because your competitor is releasing it on the same platform as you are.

I personally want iPhone released on all carriers. Verizon, T-mobile, Sprint, all of them. Why do I want that? Because I think Apple is a great company and I think iPhone is a great product and I want people to share in the joy and happiness that iPhone has brought to me and at the same time I want them to enjoy their service provider as well. You seem to miss the point about what Apple Products are about. They are about enjoyment, and nothing is more enjoyable than when you have a phone you enjoy on a service provider you like. I am not a smug little Apple fanboy that thinks you have to be in some exclusive club to enjoy an Apple product. That train of thought is truly sickening. And that mentality is pure idiocy. That is all.
 
A Zune phone or Zune-esque phone can not compete with the iPhone. If this rumor is true it'll obviously be a phone (most likely HTC) running WinMo 6.5 and running Zune software. But it can't compete with the iPhone. How is 6.5 different from 6.1? It's more touch friendly and more flashy. The interface has not gotten better at all, it's just gotten prettier. It can't take down the iPhone there.

And Zune software? Yeah, the Zune is a decent rival to the iPod's interface but not the iPhone OS. The iPhone has perfected interface, features, and navigation on a touch screen device for multimedia. This phone can't compete there, either.
 
Microsoft will target the business market and Apple will stay in the consumer niche. Guess who will be selling more phones in the end? Tip: It's the company that plays better with the average corporate server room, because that's where the volume is. And that, traditionally, is not Apple's playground.

But to be honest, I don't care and almost everybody else here shouldn't either. I don't own any Microsoft or Apple shares, and most of you probably don't either.
 
jav6454 said:
:mad: Rot in Hell Verizon!
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you hate verizon, we get it....but what has Verizon failed at exactly???? I can name a few things MS has failed at
Zune
RRoD on 360's
Windows Vista and soon W7
jav6454 said:
They already opened they social networking site. Its call Windows Live Spaces... its not advertised much, but if you sign in to your Hotmail account you can see status on people in your MSN network. You can create your profile and upload pics and pic galleries.
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But it is not being seen as you said plus how many people use hotmail, they dont have a monopoly over that so it wont be able to grow. Too bad if it is as great as you say then it needs to be adv3ertised and not treated as a "project.
overanalyzer said:
(emphasis mine)

I actually disagree with this. Microsoft has shown tremendous innovation lately in some departments, particularly with the evolution of C# and ASP.NET, IIS and SQL Server. But those are all reflections of its core strength as a software developer. I'm much less enthralled by their history as a hardware developer.
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But for most consumers that dont go onto a tech board or arent programmers they dont give a "bleep" about this. People only really care about realiablity and that it doesnt break and how many songs can fit on an ipod, etc.....they dont care about the language it was programed in. So it gets lost in the shuffle

As a few have said MS needs to reorganize...fix Windows to be more reliable, make a vg system that doesnt break, get out of making mp3 players and not go into products where they will be dominated (ie phone hardware)
 
Pnut13 said:
you hate verizon, we get it....but what has Verizon failed at exactly????

But it is not being seen as you said plus how many people use hotmail, they dont have a monopoly over that so it wont be able to grow. Too bad if it is as great as you say then it needs to be adv3ertised and not treated as a "project.
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Verizon fails at coverage and CS service.

As for Windows Live Spaces, its a small service thats starting out. I don't think its great nor do I bash it since I haven't used it; however, I have seen it and know of it.

dreadkid08 said:
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Trolled poster was trolled.

We are not talking about choices here. Your argument opens a pandora box of quantity which Apple has stated not to endorse or want. So good luck trying to prove yourself. Quality makes a great product, and sticking to AT&T ensures there will be 1 phone to work on and 1 phone to make better.

have a nice day
 
Why? Just why? The Zune is a dud and Windows has a lot of problems. Why not spend this money on making existing products better instead of throwing more money into another area dominated by RIM and Apple? RIM has the business geeks, Apple has the other geeks.

Also, who decided to use the word "rival?" Competitor, maybe. Rival? Hardly.
 
Cool. Looking forward to seeing what this develops in to.

As far as some of the comments here go, I don't get it. Competition is a good thing and Microsoft (unlike Palm) really has a lot of weight to throw behind any new devices. As an iPhone user, this can only mean a better iPhone for me and so I'm all for it. Microsoft has done a fantastic job with Windows 7, so maybe, just maybe, they'll get in gear with whatever flavor of mobile windows they put on this new device.

I also believe that the iPhone absolutely should be available to everyone, no matter the carrier. I have yet to hear a sensible opposition to why this shouldn't be so. There is no perfect carrier out there and a person should be able to use an iPhone on whatever carrier best suits their needs. What's the downside? Apple sells more phones and increases its revenue? Apple increases their market share? I don't get it.
 
I'm all for this move, it should provide months or years of amusement. And even though I don't think they'll ever truly compete with Apple from a design standpoint, competition is good, even if it's lame competition. Hey, MS had a few good ideas in the last couple of decades that Apple adopted...sticky menus, copy/paste files on the clipboard, Rich Text format, predictable window zooming (OK, Apple still hasn't gotten that one right)...
 
it's about time

...at least it will be sure to support squirting. The iPhone is so behind the times...they should have had squirting in 1.0 but they haven't even announced a squirt feature!
 
jav6454 said:
Verizon fails at coverage and CS service.

As for Windows Live Spaces, its a small service thats starting out. I don't think its great nor do I bash it since I haven't used it; however, I have seen it and know of it.



Trolled poster was trolled.

We are not talking about choices here. Your argument opens a pandora box of quantity which Apple has stated not to endorse or want. So good luck trying to prove yourself. Quality makes a great product, and sticking to AT&T ensures there will be 1 phone to work on and 1 phone to make better.

have a nice day
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I can see where your point is with that however. the only difference between the iPhones is the network they would support nothing else would be different so your argument doesn't really hold any water. There can still be 1 phone to work on. Just configure the phone to a different network accordingly. I think you'd want to give Apple more credit than that. The underlying message you are giving is that Apple cannot innovate if they release the iPhone on a different networks this is BS. I mean seriously even if the iPhones were completely different get real. There are 6 different types of Macs 4 different types of iPods I think Apple could handle 2 types of iPhones if it came down to it.
 
I agree. Bring on the competition. The iPhone isn't perfect but well ahead of the game, and much as Apple like to push on, it is very easy to slow things down (and refuse to do things like "Copy and Paste") when you're still making lots of cash...

I thank Blackberry for forcing Apple's to implement c + p :).
 
I find it funny when people say Microsoft do not copy Apple. Me saying this stems from the Code name... "Pink".. HA HA HA, the code name for the iPhone was "Purple" or "P1" and "P2" for Purple 1 and Purple 2.
 
dreadkid08 said:
I can see where your point is with that however. the only difference between the iPhones is the network they would support nothing else would be different so your argument doesn't really hold any water. There can still be 1 phone to work on. Just configure the phone to a different network accordingly. I think you'd want to give Apple more credit than that. The underlying message you are giving is that Apple cannot innovate if they release the iPhone on a different networks this is BS. I mean seriously even if the iPhones were completely different get real. There are 6 different types of Macs 3 different types of iPods I think Apple could handle 2 types of iPhones if it came down to it.
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Making another version (CDMA in this case) is still a second version of the phone. Saying other wise doesn't change that fact, you are just fooling yourself.

Macs in the end are same hardware as any other PC, so it doesn't matter if they have many versions, in the end its OS X. iPods are still the same deal, a music player.

Doesn't help the argument.
 
jav6454 said:
Making another version (CDMA in this case) is still a second version of the phone. Saying other wise doesn't change that fact, you are just fooling yourself.

Macs in the end are same hardware as any other PC, so it doesn't matter if they have many versions, in the end its OS X. iPods are still the same deal, a music player.

Doesn't help the argument.
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what about the ipod touch? that isn't just a music player. it's in the ipod family. with different iphone in the end its iPhone OS. using the same logic you did on Mac it doesn't matter if there are many versions
 
dreadkid08 said:
what about the ipod touch? that isn't just a music player. it's in the ipod family. with different iphone in the end its iPhone OS. using the same logic you did on Mac it doesn't matter if there are many versions
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It is an iPod, just with added capabilities. I don't see a radio chip that communicates to cell towers, do you?
 
jav6454 said:
It is an iPod, just with added capabilities. I don't see a radio chip that communicates to cell towers, do you?
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All you'd have to do with iPhone is just make sure one worked with the network. Other phone manufactures can do that. Don't see why Apple can't. Nothing else about it would have to change other than the signal it could read.
 
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