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I'm sorry, I can't read your mind and fill in the blanks from your ambiguous typing.
Being a nominally American site, without a set location in the profile, American is the only fitting assumption.
Well said. At least a few of us aren't re-writing Apple/iPhone history here. Time will be the arbiter of whether or not the new platform is successful. Not many of the Apple "enthusiasts" who are the furthest from the target market as they come.
Really - many of the lot posting in this thread wouldn't care if the new OS promised you 10 million dollars and granted every other wish you had if it wasn't made by Apple. You'd still bash it. I can imagine it "Yeah - so you get 10 million dollars with the OS - you'd have to pay me that to tolerate the device." or "Yeah - why can't they give $20 million:. LOL
No, I am talking about how many US households have the capability to stream 720P without a hicup. The original post I was responding to seemed to indicate the imminent demise of Blueray. I have no doubt it will go away like the vinyl record, but not just based all on Apple.
the graphics certainly look impressive, but it looks slightly over-simplified. unfortunately when they used "say hello to windows phone" on the main page it's been used by apple a few years ago..
Don't worry, I understood your original post. This is what happens when people rely on so much simple technology, they forget how to think. LOL I guess since Apple does not have a true gaming console yet, the console wars escapes them.
Well exactly. Apple (and admittingly Netflix, Time Warner, Hulu, etc) want the average consumer who doesn't know better to be confused that because they are getting "HD" videos via cable or download/streaming that it's the same quality both in video and picture. Yes. the RESOLUTION is the same. But the BITRATE (the important thing) is not even remotely close.
The equivalent would be if iTunes and all these media outlets only streamed 32 kbps bit audio (think early days of realplayer) instead of 320 kbps. This is NO different.
Home internet is quite a few years away from being able to stream the 24-50 gigs required for a movie to be in true high def picture AND sound.
Somehow, I don't think Microsoft can become the world's biggest mainframe and supercomputer maker.
So does that mean not using Apple products makes you forget how to use basic critical thinking skills then? Like non-ambiguity and proof? His argument relies on his sentence "from where we sit..." being true, yet its not true. So the rest is just an opinion, an idea. Not fact.
You sure spend a whole lot of time talking about how you have no interest in what I post.
In any case, your being fixated on yours truly doesn't change the reality: Microsoft is well past their prime, and the continued implied or overt acceptance of Steve Ballmer (the "post-turtle" of tech) by shareholders doing nicely under the company's Windows-licensing and Office racket means that change is not coming to MS anytime soon. MS has been on a steady downhill path for years now, but it's a ponderously slow process because they still make a boatload of money from their enterprise business (unfortunately it doesn't translate well into what counts - the consumer market, where we can actually take home tech.)
It's like an old man easing into a bathtub. You know it'll be slow, painful to watch, and probably won't end all that well.
I think he might have meant Dead s....!
I think he might have meant Dead s....!
I'm sorry I missed LTD's gem about IBM. Ridiculous. IBM may not be in the eyes of the consumer - but I can rattle of hundreds of thousands of companies that use IBM software (and hardware) for their backend systems. I think IBM isn't too worried about losing the consumer part of their business.
P.S. (to LTD) - it's ignorant to make statements like that anyway. IBM's hardware and software infrastructures at companies around the world very much affect the END USER.
ETA: LTD - Microsoft is past their prime? Yeah.. ok. Again - ignorance is bliss I guess.
I'm not a troll - but MAN do some of your posts make me look like someone who doesn't like Apple when I actually do just to counter your silliness
Anyone else thinks all those big contiguous tiles on the homepage is rather claustrophobic? At least one of those 9 devices has a super-amoled screen and the Windows OS uses it present a suffocating environment for the user.
Also does anyone know any hardware specs of these phones - not that I care, but I suspect that the hardware specs of iPhone 4, in totality, are superior and certainly iPhone 5 will be far better.
People could pick small individual statistics where another smartphone may outshine iPhone (and usually only by a small margin) but it is the hardware and software combo in totality that makes iPhone so good, and hence, so successful.
Also does anyone know any hardware specs of these phones - not that I care, but I suspect that the hardware specs of iPhone 4, in totality, are superior and certainly iPhone 5 will be far better.
People could pick small individual statistics where another smartphone may outshine iPhone (and usually only by a small margin) but it is the hardware and software combo in totality that makes iPhone so good, and hence, so successful.
Here, let me make it into a handy list form for you. Call it the cliff notes to a very simple conversation. I really hope this helps.
- LTD makes big long post saying Microsoft are way too late to the game, aren't as innovative, don't have a snowballs chance in hell, etc.
- I make the remark that people said the same thing about the Xbox, and look where we are now.
- There's mention Microsoft don't make any money out of the Entertainment division.
- I prove that wrong.
- You start talking about how many consoles Sony has sold compared to Microsoft.
- I point out that, frankly, that isn't the point of my original statement.
- You confuse me for an American because I can't be bothered to set my location.
To be honest and fair - not everyone wants an iPhone. That's why other companies make phones. There's really nothing else to say.
I'll repeat my earlier comment - there's likely NO ONE in this thread that these phones are marketed/targeted for.... like selling ice to an eskimo. You aren't the demographic....
You need to buy a clue. Just because Netflix arrived at door front of Apple this year does not mean there was no stream now over a year ago. It was probably more like two years ago. On demand content from cable companies is years old. The point is I can get own demand over the coax/fiber cable that is managed by the cable company. The other methods require broadband, and my question is how many US households have good broadband?
my question/statement also remains. Streaming content will never be as good as hard media until bandwidth allows for it. We are YEARS away from that happening.
In the meantime - all those in favor for settling for mediocrity in picture and sound while boasting they are getting HD streamed to their houses - go enjoy those services. The rest of us will keep our blu-ray players...
Better late than never. Competition is good and I honestly wish Microsoft the best. I know other Windows Phone OSs failed horribly but this actually looks interesting. I don't quite get the tile view but at least it is something different. All those other phones out there use the icon view just like iOS does and it's nothing new.
I don't know why so many people bash on Microsoft for everything they can on this forum. Okay, Stevie B looks hilarious but come on. If there weren't any competition everything from Apple would be stale. They wouldn't feel the need to move ahead because nobody else is challenging them.
I don't know why so many people bash on Microsoft for everything they can on this forum. Okay, Stevie B looks hilarious but come on. If there weren't any competition everything from Apple would be stale. They wouldn't feel the need to move ahead because nobody else is challenging them.
I was pointing out a major flaw in one of your main premises. Your premise is not true.
Here's a handy list for you:
You make statement.
I oppose statement with competing proof.
You provide no counter proof.
You have a point MorphingDragon. I was only referring to the original comment. I don't want to get into a post war with a dragon, I don't have Excalibur with me. LOL
I'd say the particularly well-received Windows 7 would argue with your suggestion they're on a downhill trajectory.
Microsoft have many problems internally, mainly the balkanisation of various divisions under old-guard feudal lords making any innovation needlessly difficult. What we have seen in the last couple of years, though, is a company that's willing to make amends on past failures of process - i.e. Windows 7, fixing the flaws in the 360 and now this new phone thing.
They're making ground in spite of themselves which deserves at least a little kudos.
Besides which, I find any comparison of corporate culture to Apple a little disingenuous. Not many Fortune 500 companies have such flat management structures, or tend to focus so tightly on individual projects in such an iterative manner. Should other businesses look to that for inspiration? Sure. In fact Microsoft are making some very Apple-like decisions with regards to their phone OS in terms of locking down hardware specs and preventing carrier bloatware nonsense. Considering they could have gone the WinMo6/Android route this is a good thing from a consumer perspective.
What I think right now is that people like you spend far too much time arguing about the businesses and not what the consumer gets out of it. If you buy Microsoft products at Christmas, you can get a very good modern OS on a wide variety of machines, a gaming system with a ton of good games and some nifty home theatre integration, and a phone that won't be rubbish. These would seem to be good things from a consumer perspective.
I'm missing the bit where my premise was wrong. The PS2 owned the last generation. The PS3 manifestly doesn't own this one, and a lot of that is due to competition in the "next-gen" console race. Fanboys said that was impossible when the Xbox was first announced. I'm reading much of the same sort of thing here about phones, and making a point of it.
How many times do I have to reiterate the same goddamn thing until you get it?
That's because Microsoft has treated the Mac community very poorly over the years up to the current released version of Office (2008), and Office 2010, although a major improvement still misses some of the included software that the Windows version has. Constant sabotage to keep the Mac from winning. Then when MS creates a new product that ends up failing it makes people hate them more because they (Steve Emballmer) were never humble about it from the start, instead they (Steve Emballmer) tried to crap on Apple's products to make MS look good, henceforth the attitude that comes from the Mac community.
One valid answer would be:
any household with a mostly reliable internet connection
of course, that "720p stream" would have to be horribly compressed and probably only a couple of frames per second - but it could be done without hiccups.
If you want 24-30 fps and a high quality bitrate for video and audio of 10-15 Mbps, the answer would be
very few households
Note that not many people consider Apple's 720p streams to be "high-quality bitrate" - sending 720p at half the bitrate of an SD DVD is not acceptable to many.
Saimcraig, I think you are missing my point. I am in agreement with you. The post I was responding to seemed to indicate the world is going HD streaming tomorrow. Forget about 1080p, if most US households can't do 720p, either due to lack of equipment, access to broadband or access to sufficient bandwith, how can this kill blueray overnight. That is the intent of my original question.