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Microsoft Unveils Windows Phone 7 Handsets
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i'm disappointed by the their marketing team b/c they forgot an "S" at the end of phone and forgot to remove the A so it should read "Different kinds of phones".
really? 9 models!?!?!?!
that is confusing to the consumer whom it seems, is ever decreasingly not wanting multiple choices. Competition is good. I believe in it, but 9 phones?
good luck with that.
really? 9 models!?!?!?!
that is confusing to the consumer whom it seems, is ever decreasingly not wanting multiple choices. Competition is good. I believe in it, but 9 phones?
good luck with that.
So now are we going to completely ignore that you said:
How convenient for you.
I also fail to see that there are a lack of PS3 sales and developer support, when the systems have near parity in exclusives and the PS3 is currently outselling the X360 this year in hardware sales.
Well, one look at this site and if I were MS I wouldn't do shyte for you guys. Could you really blame them? Twist this one...
Not entirely true.
Apple created the iPhone in the absence of any viable competition, and completely redefined the market overnight.
Apple created the iPad in the absence of competition, and created a new market overnight. And many have called it "just a big iPod Touch." Now look at what this big iPod Touch has done.
Apple brought to market the first successful GUI when everyone else was using DOS and the average user couldn't even conceive of anything else. What was driving Apple? LOL . . . IBM's failed vision and Apple's unmatched drive. Again, there was no competition in this area either.
Enter the iPod. What competition? The "competition" to the iPod at the time was absolutely pathetic. What drove Apple? Great ideas. Not someone else pushing them.
Apple *created* Android. Without the iPhone Eric T. Mole would still be busy playing with Gmail and commemorative Google logos at Christmas and Halloween. It's thanks to Apple that we have the level of smartphones on the market we see today. Does Google drive Apple? No more than anyone else. The "competition" needs to churn out all manner of hardware and OS versions to compete with Apple's ONE (or at most, two) phones, locked to a single carrier in the US. And Apple is *still* the one that sets the pace of change. No single phone from the competition is an actual "iPhone-Killer" because they simply don't have what it takes (it all comes down to philosophy about how people should interact with tech) to create a single "iPhone-Killer." Of course, the perennial excuse is "openness" and "choice."
And what's really going to change about the competition? Nothing much at a fundamental level. Apple's way of thinking about people and tech comes from a totally different place. Hence, their wild success in such a short span of time.
While I agree with you, I will have to say this particular set of phones (O/S) is not so much competition but an after thought.
Three years, nine months, and two days after Apple announced the iPhone. Wow! Just wow!
And now Microsoft is chasing Apple when their biggest threat to the Windows and Office franchises is Google?
Isn't there anyone on the board at Microsoft willing to hold Ballmer accountable for completely missing every competitive threat over the past five years?
And now Microsoft is chasing Apple when their biggest threat to the Windows and Office franchises is Google?
Isn't there anyone on the board at Microsoft willing to hold Ballmer accountable for completely missing every competitive threat over the past five years?
Because for twenty years we've had to listen to the Windows crowd bash, denigrate and make fun of Mac users. Now that Apple is the company on top, the one to beat and Microsoft is the late underdog to the party we're supposed to be all happy and encouraging to them? I don't think so. Microsoft got where they are by anti-competitive behavior, by stifling innovation, by literally buying out the competition and then sweeping it under the rug.
You apparently haven't been around long enough to remember when the internet was 99% Windows only and Mac users were quite nastily told to go away as we weren't worth accommodating.
Mark my words. Ballmer and Microsoft will try their damnedest, spend as much money as it takes, and pull every anti-competitive trick in the book to get their mobile OS going. They've already offered to pay iOS developers to port their apps to WP7. So no, we don't want WP7 to get any traction at all. I, for one, will never accept being assimilated by the Borg and Uncle Fester.Not now.
http://www.vgchartz.com/weekly.php
If you'll peruse the hardware sales on the right, you might notice something.
X360 43,711,042
PS3 38,015,409
You can dig up the comparisons to the PS2 era in your own time.
The point being that the game completely changed this generation, something the Sony fanboys could never see happening. Hubris is a dangerous thing, etc.
Okay. They make what they believe is the best product. They didn't see fit to include a blu Ray player. Again, take it or leave it.
While the US is far behind most civilized countries in delivering adequate bandwidth to households, it is moving in the right direction. And, while 1080p might be "the bomb", frankly I doubt that many households really care that much. I see a LOT of people with new TVs who refuse to order HD cable or satellite because of the cost associated with it.
Asking $25-30 for a Blu-ray disc is too much. Asking $15 for a DVD is too much. Asking $2.99 for a movie rental without leaving your couch is pretty much what a lot of people want, I would bet. Redbox has proven that people will drive to get a $.99 movie for a night. Little Ceasar's has proven that people will drive to get a pizza that tastes pretty much like the box it came in. I don't think that 1080p, 720p, or any moniker means as much to most folks as pushing a button and getting to watch your show when you want to watch it. The VCR and TiVo (my candidates for the best inventions ever) were built around that principle.
My Apple stock has done quite well. So has my Netflix stock. Both are innovative companies willing to invest in the future. Microsoft couldn't innovate its way out of a wet paper bag. And someone, soon, will figure out this content delivery puzzle. When they do, buy their stock.
Give up on *LTD*. Many people have him on their ignore list because his opinion and information have less than Zero credibility because it is only Pro Apple anti everything else.
LTD has stated here multiple times if it does not have an Apple label on it automatically sucks. (Apple label it rules.)
The only reason LTD is not on my ignore list is he makes it really easy to find the Fanboy opinion and know which arguments people post to throw out. I consider his arguments the list of ones that are worthless so anyone using them should understand that I consider those the fanboy arguments and therefor not valid.
FWIW, I just watched the MS promo video. WinMo7 looked to me like a mobile system based on Cover Flow. I was really confused looking at the home screen, and then when things began moving I was even more confused. I really don't like how headings get chopped off, appearing in full only after you scroll to the right. The screen -- particularly in the music player -- was so busy I didn't know what I was looking at.
I agree with the previous comment that at least MS is trying something new, and that's a point in their favor. But the OS just made me scratch my head. There's too much information for a screen that small.
I agree with the previous comment that at least MS is trying something new, and that's a point in their favor. But the OS just made me scratch my head. There's too much information for a screen that small.
YOU guys? Oh so if you're not including yourself in this community, why the heck are you here? Did you just now register so you can come wreak havoc on the forum and circumvent the language filter?
I've seen your others posts, they aren't very acceptable, especially for someone new on the forum. Keep it up my man, and you'll be on your way to another forum soon enough as the mods will give you access to other places.
I can see why you would think that. I thought the same when I saw the Zune HD interface, but after using it, it turns out to be much better.
Another thing thats great about WP7 is it uses Zune software which is SO MUCH BETTER than iTunes on Windows.
Agreed. But iTunes was the one to sweep in and take advantage of the situation.
Content delivery to the house is not new. Cable companies have had this for years. The price is cheaper than a DVD or Blueray. Content delivery from Cable compaines delivery existed before Blueray. Yet here we have Blueray. Your Apple/Netflix stock comment is out of context and pointless.
If this is true, than turning on a light switch must really be difficult. LOL.
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Makes me wonder if we will EVER see an iPhone killer... Speaking of which I still can't understand why anyone at Microsoft thought it was a funny idea to parade around with iPhone coffins on the anniversary of 9/11. I'm not American and even I was offended by that!
That stunt had Steve Ballmer's fingerprints all over it. His presentation of himself and his company is utterly awful. If I were him and it was my duty to present my business products to a worldwide audience on a regular basis I would eat healthier, get myself to a gym regularly and generally make sure I came across a bit fitter/sharper at events. The way he looks/behaves on stage is cringe-worthy.
That stunt had Steve Ballmer's fingerprints all over it. His presentation of himself and his company is utterly awful. If I were him and it was my duty to present my business products to a worldwide audience on a regular basis I would eat healthier, get myself to a gym regularly and generally make sure I came across a bit fitter/sharper at events. The way he looks/behaves on stage is cringe-worthy.
Why? Apple makes one phone that's great for some and sucks for others. (I want a slide out keyboard or flip-phone with keyboard. I've tried IOS, and the onscreen keyboard completely sucks for me compared to a QWERTY keyboard.)
MS does software, and partners with hardware builders. That could mean more great phones for more people - instead of one compromise phone that doesn't fit many people's needs. (Where's FLASH????)
Choice is not evil.
That's only because you have to search far and wide for any Windows software that's worse than Itunes.
Wait, that's wrong. Any version of Quicktime on Windows is pretty bad - most are easily worse than Itunes.
Let me rephrase it:
That's only because you have to search far and wide for any Windows software not made by Apple that's worse than Itunes.