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Microsoft Unveils Windows Phone 7 Handsets
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Late in the game? M$ was on mobile market way before Apple... Anyway, there is no such thing as "late in the game" in mobile device market. That game is ever changing unstable entity.
Anyway, WinPhone7 UI looks fresh and its nice change on all these icon driven devices. Competition is good for consumers.
I wouldn't say that the iphone has a dedicated homescreen the way the wp7 does.
How long will it take Apple to graft a similar interface onto ios along with a better notification system?
They already have a slew of patents for a dedicated homescreen with information portals.
We'll probably see something on that front by the summer.
As for wp7 being "data centric" - I don't know that that's necessarily a good thing.
And, of course, M$ tries to position WP7 as a "jack of all trades" - in an effort to "out apple" apple.
Marketing to the consumer is apple's strength - they would be much better off positioning wp7 as a business smartphone - in an effort to kill off RIM.
You should ask the question by email to Steve Ballmer
Or Steve jobs... because if you can then Apple would certainly 'break' the functionality with the next itunes release
The reason for the criticism about no multitsking or copy/cut/paste in 2010 is because it is 2010 - at this point in time microsoft has several valid competitors who have an excellent GUI, can multitask, and can copy/cut/paste.
What microsoft doesn't have are apps., multitasking, and copy/cut/paste - a very weak offering in the face of competition from Android and (of course) ios.
wp7 ui is different - I wouldn't call it innovative because all I've seen are Ballmer's dog & pony show along with a few previews. Let's wait until we can see what the real world usability/responsiveness are.
Windows... Phone.
That's just, so amazingly inventive.
i.......Phone.
That's just, so amazingly inventive.
Oh no.... choice! I can't think for myself! Lord Turtleneck himself says choice is bad!
Apple's had this success because they've had release after release of solid quality products which happen to be innovative and built up tons of good will.
M$ hasn't had the same track record, so I think the road will be a bit rougher for them.
Nokia and Blackberry offer ways to sync with your iTunes library and there's 3rd party support for Android phones.
Palm only got in trouble with Apple because they tried to con iTunes into thinking you had plugged in an iPod.
"Radically Different" means they didn't want to step on Apple's patents
Being different is not the same as being innovative - we'll see how well MS's portal scales.
No flash support (yet).
The scrolling with the cut off letters stinks...design for the sake of design is not good design.
i have an iphone and love it. i do think wp7 is interesting and looks cool (although a bit cartoonish). despite what everyone is saying it looks icon driven to me - you click an large icon and it open an application that has multiple functions associated with it. so instead of opening 1 program you open several at the same time. i think this will be very confusing to your average user. if i want to see facebook pictures i have to go to the picture app but if i want to see facebook posts i have to go to the people application - what if i want to see the full facebook stream (pics and posts)? isn't that how facebook is designed? so basically wp7 is breaking apps into small segments and spreading them all over the os - personally i find this confusing. as far as their tag line about seeing all your important information at a glance - it looks like you can see bits and pieces of it at a glance - one persons post or picture - one appointment - hardly seeing everything. i do love the idea that an icon is also a widget (we've been hoping it wasn't always 73 degrees) - i really wish apple would implement widgets in a cleaver way. microsoft has - to my knowledge - never show how notifications work - looks like they work the same way that the iphone does - just badges - which is a huge complaint of the iphone. just a few thoughts for whatever its worth.
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"The scrolling with the cut off letters stinks...design for the sake of design is not good design."
Sorta like the wrap around attennae?
"The scrolling with the cut off letters stinks...design for the sake of design is not good design."
Sorta like the wrap around attennae?
Meh, what's new...
Android is the tech OS, where the specs are amazing and the function is... well.. second. The techies wet dream, with a nice appeal to techs, geeks, and whoever they manage to convince that Android is to iPhone what Star Trek is to Star Wars.. (eh?!)
MS Phone 7 will become the "we have to support everything, everywhere, all the time" bloated, slow OS that Windows has become over the years.
iPhone will continue to be the one focusing on function, form and usability over all.
Please write the above down on a piece of paper, toss it in a nearby safe. Then, open again in 5 years and see if my preditictions are right.
PS: People always quote this "choice and options are always the best!". But have you really thought about it? With increasing competition, the competitors get more focused on how to beat / impersonate eachother, rather than focus on what the customer wants. Or in another perspective: They will have to focus more on defence, taking attention away from offence (innovating). Also, people will waste time contemplating "which one should I buy?" instead of getting one, and actually using it for something useful. My $0.03 (inflation).
PPS: When something new comes along that everyone says looks cool (The MS7 menu/homescreen), and are excited to see what it turns into with time, it usually is a fad that will not turn into anything useful. Unless you can see the clear benefits in less than a minute, and would choose it right now over anything else in the market, chances are it is useless.
Android is the tech OS, where the specs are amazing and the function is... well.. second. The techies wet dream, with a nice appeal to techs, geeks, and whoever they manage to convince that Android is to iPhone what Star Trek is to Star Wars.. (eh?!)
MS Phone 7 will become the "we have to support everything, everywhere, all the time" bloated, slow OS that Windows has become over the years.
iPhone will continue to be the one focusing on function, form and usability over all.
Please write the above down on a piece of paper, toss it in a nearby safe. Then, open again in 5 years and see if my preditictions are right.
PS: People always quote this "choice and options are always the best!". But have you really thought about it? With increasing competition, the competitors get more focused on how to beat / impersonate eachother, rather than focus on what the customer wants. Or in another perspective: They will have to focus more on defence, taking attention away from offence (innovating). Also, people will waste time contemplating "which one should I buy?" instead of getting one, and actually using it for something useful. My $0.03 (inflation).
PPS: When something new comes along that everyone says looks cool (The MS7 menu/homescreen), and are excited to see what it turns into with time, it usually is a fad that will not turn into anything useful. Unless you can see the clear benefits in less than a minute, and would choose it right now over anything else in the market, chances are it is useless.
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Your suppositions are ridiculous. Your not that important to remember in five years. Not sure why people seem to imply that you will walk into ATt and be presented with 12 different models of Win 7 phones when in fact it may only be 3 or 4. Some carriers only have one. Then out of choice of 3 or 4 some will have keyboards, some won't, so that narrows your choice even further. People tend to know if the prefer a keyboard or not.
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Your suppositions are ridiculous. Your not that important to remember in five years. Not sure why people seem to imply that you will walk into ATt and be presented with 12 different models of Win 7 phones when in fact it may only be 3 or 4. Some carriers only have one. Then out of choice of 3 or 4 some will have keyboards, some won't, so that narrows your choice even further. People tend to know if the prefer a keyboard or not.
Choice is good, but in terms of app development, too much choice means that in order to target the widest range of consumors, you're forced to develop for the lowest common denominator across most of the devices the OS comes on. That includes CPU/GPU speed, RAM, and hardware features such as a gyro or accelerometer.
Not every phone will have the same hardware features, so there really is no choice. It is, as I understand it, the very reason apple chose to not allow iOS on other devices.
Not every phone will have the same hardware features, so there really is no choice. It is, as I understand it, the very reason apple chose to not allow iOS on other devices.
There's nothing wrong with good old British NHS dentistry. I still have three teeth left!
Just enough handsets
Choice is good, but maybe it takes 7 MS handsets to do what one IPHONE can do?
Choice is good, but maybe it takes 7 MS handsets to do what one IPHONE can do?
Wow you musta been slipping him money under the counter for that preferential treatment.