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Microsoft Unveils Windows Phone 7 Handsets
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It takes Google around 59 or so, or rather, 43 currently.
http://www.androphones.com/2010-android-phones.php
Bloody mind-numbing.
How hard is it? ONE phone. One great phone done right that sets the bar consistently.
Well, in all fairness, the priorities are *much* different in Cupertino. Google tried a "signature" product with the Nexus One and figured out they can copy Apple, but they aren't *actually* Apple, and promptly gave up on the idea.
MS seems to be going down the "difference for difference's sake" path, which means they're pretty much out of ideas, having slept through the last 3+ years.
"We come at it (tech) from such a different place."
- Bertrand Serlet, senior vice president of software engineering, Apple
Aint that the truth.
I used to think that, until I realized it's a parallax view kind of thing, indicating that there's more information in that direction.
Clever, actually. Beats the heck out of tiny little dots at the bottom of each page.
I was wondering why you'd need a "smart"-phone to do only the phone part?
But back on topic, it doesn't look as fancy as the iPhone did when introduced, however, I'm really looking forward to this, as a lot of you mentioned before: competition is good, alternatives are necessary!
"Radically Different" means they didn't want to step on Apple's patents
Being different is not the same as being innovative - we'll see how well MS's portal scales.
No flash support (yet).
The scrolling with the cut off letters stinks...design for the sake of design is not good design.
Iphone 4 antenna ?
That was hilarious, but mostly because its true.
I've not read somebody sum-up the great ape so eloquently.
On the contrary. Microsoft is making sure that WP7 phones deliver. Check this article out from Wired which says WP7 phones are put through the Microsoft labs to make sure they work well. MS had learned a lot (from hardware and certification issues on PC's and from Apple's controlled process) and they're not leaving a great experience to chance.
You're on an Apple fansite. It's not a general tech site, like Neowin. No, Apple fans aren't trolling their own site by praising Apple, LOL. They're just fans that are obviously going to be quite loyal to their product of choice. That's the whole point. You start waving a Windows or Android flag around here, naturally you're going to get some heat. Sure, you can have intelligent discussion about tech at large, but it'll always be slanted toward Apple.
The only "trolls" here are those that are just rude for whatever reason, and those that come here complaining about why we don't give equal hugs and kisses to other tech. Simply put, IT'S AN APPLE FANSITE, any way you slice it. What did you expect?
I kind of agree. I'm curious to see where this O/S ends up in a year or two. But I get the sense it will be geared more to personal users and less towards business users. But maybe I am wrong?
I disagree with that supposition. I know plenty of people who are particularly non technical and have opted for an android phone. Not because they're locked into verizon/t-mobile but because the phone offers a good solid UI, with lots of apps, more flexibility then iOS and it works.
Sorry - went to sleep but wanted to comment on this. MS is one of the top 5 traded companies as per your own admission and the charts shown on here. So you're really going to tell me that MS is at a tipping point? You are implying that MS will fail and destroy itself. Really? Because I wonder how many companies WISH they had MS "problems" and "failures." Again - they are one of the top 5 traded companies on that chart. I'd say they are pretty "healthy" as a company for now and quite a while. This new OS won't kill them. Ballmer's "reign" is another matter. But the company is far from doomed. But whatever keeps you sleeping at night
And to some other posters - I am still amused by this thread. Some of you are posting as if you are bullies on the playground who are "secretly" insecure/afraid/threatened so you immediately go into attack mode as part of defense/survival mechanism. Psychology 101 - no degree even needed to diagnose that one LOL.
There will always be choices. There will always be competition. And there will always be people who want and need different things in their life that aren't the same as YOU. That's really the bottom line...
Stop rehashing my posts!
I've been calling him a used car salesman and 'the Al Bundy of bloatware' for years. You're the first to pick up on it to my knowledge.
But did you realise you just 'insulted' someone when you wrote that? There's a mod on here that blocks and cuts messages with 'insults' in them!
LTD - I'm not going to suggest this message board isn't full of fans of Apple. But it's very limited in vision to think that this site IS an apple FANsite. It's not. It's a website dedicated to all things Apple for people who are fans (yes) but also to anyone who has an interest because they plan on purchasing, own devices or just want to read up on the latest Apple news.
This isn't just fan "turf." It's a public site open to all. The forum isn't the only part of the website. And anyone can and is entitled to post here as long as they register and follow the rules set forth by the moderators.
Perhaps this is why posters, like yourself, don't understand that people can like Apple devices but not defend or praise them 100 percent of the time. And that people here can have a dissenting opinion and it doesn't make them trolls.
my .02
No. But having a powerful, effective and successful mobile strategy is key for future growth and investor confidence. This isn't ten years ago. If MS fumbles this time (again), it'll mean trouble. Like others have said before . . . a slow, ponderous decline. Everyone's transitioning to mobile platforms of various kinds. MS doesn't have one at this point until these phones hit the shelves. The Zune failure doesn't count. Where would more delays, failures and false starts leave MS? Still milking the old operating-system-Wintel paradigm? The Windows on a beige box with a monitor game is going out of style. And you can tell. MS is scrambling to shove a full OS onto a mobile device, which is pure comedy. That leaves Office bloatware, the enterprise sector, and gaming. Losing in the mobile space this time around would be a huge blow.
Now I'm not sure how one would define "losing" in this sense, but not offering anything to firmly and with extreme prejudice leapfrog iOS and iPhone hardware is not a good first step.
no angry birds!
Im out!! no angry birds...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/10/angry-birds-developer-claims-microsoft-jumped-the-gun-rovio-no/
Im out!! no angry birds...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/10/angry-birds-developer-claims-microsoft-jumped-the-gun-rovio-no/
Bingo. This isn't an Apple fan site. This is an Apple news site and associated forum. However, some people can only see in black and white.
So you honestly think that Microsoft's failure and success lie in phones? That if they stayed out of the market or failed in the market - they have no vitality as a company?
I am surprised (not really) at this line of thinking. Microsoft, aside from CONSUMER products has a pretty healthy .NET and infrastructure related business. They aren't going to live and die by a phone OS. Of course it WILL have impact. But to imply that this (specifically) will lead them to ruin is a bit narrow.
I concur.
In addition, the extremely rapid and wide spread acceptance of Android proves that it has the full attention of the mainstream buyers.
Their long-term success in the consumer sector depends on mobile strategy. Unless they're alright with just making a game console and such.
And that will be the litmus test for the win7 phones. I think the market is too crowded and I think MS has an up hill battle to regain market share. I hate the UI and I think that might hold it back. iOS has a beautiful UI, its fast elegant and intuitive. Android has a great interface as well. I hate BlackBerry's with there icons looking like line art and this also fails to blow up my skirt.
Which is a lovely way of saying fansite.
You can sugarcoat it all you like. "Apple information and discussion portal." "Mac news and Apple products discourse area", etc. LOL
It's a fansite, just like AppleInsider and all the rest.
But by all means, continue to pretend and then complain.
Agreed. People seem to forget what every phone was like before the iPhone. At best, some wanted to be like BlackBerry, but there was nothing like the iPhone.
However, competition is good in that it now forces Apple's hand at times. I suspect we won't see an iPhone 4s.
I haven't seen Microsoft on any of my recent top lists of highly sought after companies. The stock has been in the $21-$25 range for years now. It was in this range when Apple was sub $100 per share, and now its looking just shy of $300 per share. You are telling me shareholders are happy with this? LOL....I wouldn't be at all if a rival company had tripled their share value while I remained flat over 3-5 years. This seems to be related to Ballmer's reign. Earnings growth for MS is half of what it was last year, and I doubt its going to get any stronger with the way things are going.
To someone else's point, it just seems like MS has been following for so long now, it is a memory of when they actually lead a revolutionary idea or product line, and they are always viewed as being late to the party, or showing up with a half wrapped gift. Even Windows 7 was viewed, and still is, as a rip off of OSX, with the constant question of why it took them so long to get that right.
MS needs a facelift from a variety of perspectives, and that probably involves the removal of Ballmer and a vast house cleaning of R&D so that MS can actually come up with an original idea and begin leading the marketplace again. Going to be hard with Apple in the mix, as they seem to have the right combination to keep churning out great ideas and innovation. Maybe that's the difference...MS never had a true competitor in the innovation department until about 5 years ago, and they don't know how to deal with it. Gates might know...Ballmer seems ill equipped.