Microsoft Unveils Windows Phone 7 Handsets

[billysea]

The nonsense bias in this thread is just embarrassing to see even for an Apple fan like me.

iOS is still my #1 choice, but I welcome more mobile OS out there because they work on different hardware. I don't want to see the whole world using the same phone - but that is exactly what Apple is doing.

 

[NEiMac]

Does it come with Mcafree or Norton antivirus software? Maybe its just me but the last place I want windows is on my phone.

 

[linux2mac]

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Does it come with Mcafree or Norton antivirus software? Maybe its just me but the last place I want windows is on my phone.

No it's not just you. Same here.

 

[Hal Itosis]

I'm looking forward to trying some of these. WP7 looks good, and I hope it succeeds.

I think Apple, Microsoft and Google all should make their OSes and phones as good as they possibly can be, and be really good. That way the consumers win.

“Stop making sense... this is the Internet.”
Now get back out there and find some unreasonable argument to make.

Apple destroyed the CD/CD player with iTunes, let's not forget.

You're a complete and utter fanboy moron if you think itunes had anything to do with the cd/cd player's demise.

The combination of the mp3 and peer to peer networks is what destroyed the cd/cd player. Maybe you would realize that if you weren't so in love with a brand.

Not really Nevpaurion... illegal/pirated downloads may have slowed sales, but it took legal online sales to really make the difference. I can remember a time when Tower Records was supposed to introduce a system whereby we could walk in the store and select some songs... and then they would burn us a CD with just those songs (and charge accordingly). That system never appeared (at least not in Boston). Yes, napster p2p & mp3 did start the ball rolling... but that particular ball would have eventually <rolled off the edge>.

Personally speaking, the iTunes Store was the nail in the coffin for Tower Records as far as my wallet was concerned. My monthly expenditures fell from about $40/month (at Tower) to $15/month (at iTunes). All legal. [and i've only purchased one CD player since 2005 (a Bose unit for the bedroom).]

Look at all these fanboys

How true. This is supposedly a thread about a new Windows phone, right?... yet 30% of the posts are from people still whining about no Blu-ray/1080P from Apple. Yadda.yadda.yadda.

 

[Hastings101]

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-sch-i760-verizon/4505-6452_7-32177475.html

But, since it doesn't have a half-eaten apple logo on it, I suspect that you'll come up with some off-topic or other ad hominem about it.

But I don't care - it has great voice quality (a good feature for a phone ), and 3G signal in places in the Bay Area where friends' Iphones simply say "searching".

Shouldn't a phone first and foremost be a good phone?

That sounds like a really cool phone actually.

 

[zetzetone]

Ok, why does it look like Stevie is about to say to the media, "Really, what did you expect?"

doesnt the picture look like the Last Supper?

 

[ChrisSD]

i saw a video of ms7phone, and the interface is interesting and refreshing.

Having said that, it looked to me that the interface is a bit of information overload. ms claims that the phone has no home button, is this wise? I believe that one of the iphone features _is_ the home button. We'll have to see.

Also, this phone is evidently competing with the iphone 3gs.

The Windows logo button on all of the handsets is the home button if I'm not mistaken. Then there is a back button the left of the Windows logo, and a search on the right. I personally like the new look, and might even consider switching from iPhone to it. Honestly, I need something new, and the iPhone OS is growing stale. I like the idea of the tiles, the lock screen has useful information on it (calendar, emails, messages) and I love the Office, Xbox Live (kicks the crap out of Gamecenter), and Zune (I have a Zune Pass) integration in this. The FM radio is a nice touch, too. Multitasking would be nice, but honestly, I've used an iPhone so long without it, that I forget that it's even there on the current OS most of the time. I still hit home to exit my app, proceed to find the new one, and open it. The feature I will miss the most is copy/paste, but that is being added less than three months after release.

 

[mattwolfmatt]

Oooohhh. Windows Phone 7. I'm so excited.... not.

Evey time I read this, I can't stop laughing. It just seems so . . . juvenile. Arre you in third grade, talking about who is the best kickball player?

 

[Lennholm]

The vinyl record is what's killing the CD!

“Stop making sense... this is the Internet.”
Now get back out there and find some unreasonable argument to make.




Not really Nevpaurion... illegal/pirated downloads may have slowed sales, but it took legal online sales to really make the difference. I can remember a time when Tower Records was supposed to introduce a system whereby we could walk in the store and select some songs... and then they would burn us a CD with just those songs (and charge accordingly). That system never appeared (at least not in Boston). Yes, napster p2p & mp3 did start the ball rolling... but that particular ball would have eventually <rolled off the edge>.

Personally speaking, the iTunes Store was the nail in the coffin for Tower Records as far as my wallet was concerned. My monthly expenditures fell from about $40/month (at Tower) to $15/month (at iTunes). All legal. [and i've only purchased one CD player since 2005 (a Bose unit for the bedroom).]




How true. This is supposedly a thread about a new Windows phone, right?... yet 30% of the posts are from people still whining about no Blu-ray/1080P from Apple. Yadda.yadda.yadda.

 

[DarkKnightNine]

7 Clones...

do anyone else agree?

Too. Many. Handsets.

Confusion reigns.

If you go to Microsoft's website and actually examine all of the phones, it seems like they are all the same phone just in slightly different form factors from different manufactures. They had an opportunity (actually 7 opportunities) to do something really groundbreaking and decided to release 7 clones. Blaaaaah, so typical of Microsoft to lack creativity. Yes I know they don't make the handsets, but they could have encouraged (pushed) the manufactures to be a little more creative.

 

[bruinsrme]

If you go to Microsoft's website and actually examine all of the phones, it seems like they are all the same phone just in slightly different form factors from different manufactures. They had an opportunity (actually 7 opportunities) to do something really groundbreaking and decided to release 7 clones. Blaaaaah, so typical of Microsoft to lack creativity. Yes I know they don't make the handsets, but they could have encouraged (pushed) the manufactures to be a little more creative.

And apple has a variety of different looking iphone 4s

 

[Bernard SG]

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Can this thread get any dumber?

 

[SandynJosh]

I do not think the Windows 7 Phone supports Flash because Microsoft is choosing to support Silverlight ( their Flash clone ). Also, on the social networking side, as you see in the commercials, Microsoft is heavily promoting Windows Live over Facebook.

P. S. There is a rumor that Adobe may want to be acquired by Microsoft so they can team up against Apple. If that happens Silverlight will probably gobble up Flash or vice-versa. As for what would happen to Photoshop, I do not even want to think about it!

MS announced earlier this year that they were going to follow Apple's direction and not support Flash.

Adobe may have been trying a last-ditch effort to woo MS to reconsider. Something may have come of it since it was not a topic during the MS presentation.

 

[Zaap]

Windows... Phone.

That's just, so amazingly inventive.

 

[ChrisSD]

If you go to Microsoft's website and actually examine all of the phones, it seems like they are all the same phone just in slightly different form factors from different manufactures. They had an opportunity (actually 7 opportunities) to do something really groundbreaking and decided to release 7 clones. Blaaaaah, so typical of Microsoft to lack creativity. Yes I know they don't make the handsets, but they could have encouraged (pushed) the manufactures to be a little more creative.

They have slates, a portrait slider, landscape slider, big evo 4 type phones, and a phone with a slide out speaker and with Dolby mobile sound (this hasn't even been done before). I think they're doing just fine. They also need to please multiple carriers, and are trying to reach a larger audience than Apple, who insists on being locked into one carrier and crippling their network.

 

[SandynJosh]

If you go to Microsoft's website and actually examine all of the phones, it seems like they are all the same phone just in slightly different form factors from different manufactures. They had an opportunity (actually 7 opportunities) to do something really groundbreaking and decided to release 7 clones. Blaaaaah, so typical of Microsoft to lack creativity. Yes I know they don't make the handsets, but they could have encouraged (pushed) the manufactures to be a little more creative.

MS set some standards for the manufacturers on the handset's specs. That may be behind why they appear to be clones to some extent. That should be a good thing for app developers because they will be able to write one app and know that it will work across the whole line of MS based phones. Compare that to the Android phones and you can see how that works to build a faster base of apps.

 

[entwife]

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I remember saying that when the iPhone came out. ( that it would fail as it had no copy paste, mms, multitasking and no video).

Ate my words.

They look great. They really do and I really like the xbox live aspect.

Minimum spec is great idea. Should stop fragmentation like what android suffers from.

Don't think I will replace my iPhone with one but they do look good.

Remember guys it's ok to like other products even if apple doesn't make them. Steve won't track you down and hurt you.

 

[ikir]

It is an improvements because it is impossible to sucks as much the old windows mobile phones

 

[Piggie]

Okay. They make what they believe is the best product. They didn't see fit to include a blu Ray player. Again, take it or leave it.

That's not even true.

We all know Apple don't want you to buy 1080p Hi-Def movies on BluRay disks, they want you to download 720p movies from iTunes so they get your money.

It's as basic as that.

Where does all this "They made the best product" and "They don't want to be sued for fitting a BluRay drive" twaddle come from?

They want to make the max money from you, and fitting a BluRay drive may harm their iTunes movie sales as a 3rd party physical disk would give the Apple user a better picture than the one available on download from Apple iTunes.

Why make up any other story to pretend this is not the case?

 

[bruinsrme]

“Stop making sense... this is the Internet.”
Now get back out there and find some unreasonable argument to make.




Not really Nevpaurion... illegal/pirated downloads may have slowed sales, but it took legal online sales to really make the difference. I can remember a time when Tower Records was supposed to introduce a system whereby we could walk in the store and select some songs... and then they would burn us a CD with just those songs (and charge accordingly). That system never appeared (at least not in Boston). Yes, napster p2p & mp3 did start the ball rolling... but that particular ball would have eventually <rolled off the edge>.

Personally speaking, the iTunes Store was the nail in the coffin for Tower Records as far as my wallet was concerned. My monthly expenditures fell from about $40/month (at Tower) to $15/month (at iTunes). All legal. [and i've only purchased one CD player since 2005 (a Bose unit for the bedroom).]




How true. This is supposedly a thread about a new Windows phone, right?... yet 30% of the posts are from people still whining about no Blu-ray/1080P from Apple. Yadda.yadda.yadda.

Musicland/Sam goody had the kiosks in a few stores. at the time is was around $1.50 to $3.00 per song. It seemed to have the flavor of buying a 78 record. Technology way before its time

 

[pistolero]

Please, Enough of the nonsense that competition in smart phones is good for consumer blah blah. In reality there is no real competition going on. The carriers are in full control of the offers in the marketplace, what models are sold, which ones get promoted in the stores, which ones are sold full price, which ones are given away etc. Windows 7 will succeeded simply because the carriers want a third alternative to android OS. They will Never allow one company (specially one as powerful as google) to control the mobile os market. They will promote now win7 as a more polished trusted smartphone with Office support over the confusing android brand offerings.

 

[Ubuntu]

"...one that makes everyday tasks faster by getting more done in fewer steps and providing timely information in a 'glance and go' format."

Right, that's the iPhone you're talking about. Has been out for a few years. Congrats on joining the party.

Well, no. The iPhone is actually rather limited in that area if we are to be specific. The Android OS has many pages to access social updates, weather, etc without having to leave the homescreen. For the iPhone you would have to launch several apps.

Get it?

Even so, I don't think the Windows mobile phones will go far.

Windows... Phone.

That's just, so amazingly inventive.

Oh yeah and iPhone is so original. Not like the same company has been naming many of their products with the i prefix for a long time.

 

[true777]

Gosh, these phones are ugly.

 

[ranReloaded]

That's not even true.

We all know Apple don't want you to buy 1080p Hi-Def movies on BluRay disks, they want you to download 720p movies from iTunes so they get your money.

It's as basic as that.

Where does all this "They made the best product" and "They don't want to be sued for fitting a BluRay drive" twaddle come from?

They want to make the max money from you, and fitting a BluRay drive may harm their iTunes movie sales as a 3rd party physical disk would give the Apple user a better picture than the one available on download from Apple iTunes.

Why make up any other story to pretend this is not the case?

I always wonder what's stopping Apple from selling 1080p Movies in the iTunes Store. Is it a bandwidth concern? They could offer both, and a disclaimer that "1080p movies require longer download times".

...Or maybe the Movie Studios won't let them, so they don't fully compete (and possibly replace) Blu-Ray Sales?

 

[Bernard SG]

I always wonder what's stopping Apple from selling 1080p Movies in the iTunes Store. Is it a bandwidth concern? They could offer both, and a disclaimer that "1080p movies require longer download times".

...Or maybe the Movie Studios won't let them, so they don't fully compete (and possibly replace) Blu-Ray Sales?

Bandwidth and server disk space are certainly relevant factors in their decision.
Doesn't a 1080 video almost weigh 3 times more than a 720?
Anyway, IMHO, 1080 is much of an overkill. It may make sense on a theater humongous screen, but for home video let alone computer screen, 720 is already a more than decent experience.