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Microsoft Unveils Windows Phone 7 Handsets

KnightWRX said:
Must be hard living your life when the clock displayed on the iPhone's homescreen gets changed every minute. :rolleyes:

Seriously, are you people that dense that you don't understand the concept of seeing weather/time/date and other data updates on the locked home screen ? Something Android has been doing for quite a while and one of the first mods the jailbreak community did.

Would it really hurt Apple to not force me to unlock the phone, browse to the weather app, select the proper city before I get to the current temperature ?
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^ This is why I'm not renewing my iPhone contract at the end of the month.

Its like steve decided "I don't want/need it, so nobody else will". They willingly cripple their stuff just to keep it simple. I hate to say it but MS are really turning themselves around at the moment and if Apple aren't careful, they'll sneak in.
 
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Finally. A new ui! This is what the smartphone scene needs to push new concepts and better experiences for everyone. Apple needs to streamline the iPhone ui currently it takes more steps to do simple things then is convenient.
Good for Microsoft in taking their time to polish a new concept they're a late to have a runaway hit but in time they should have a good following especially if they integrate xbox live and bring high quality developers into the touch ui fold and revolutionize a few things. That's one area that Apple was and is still weak. Apple needs to do more encourage AAA devs to write apps it took four years to get Epic or Autodesk interested in the iPhone?! The app store is great because it levels the playing field but small devs don't have enough resources to invest a big project for hardcore games and the like.
Apple finally will have competition. The world is right again. I am disappointed in the iPhone 4 hardware one drop from less than a foot of the ground and shattered glass I would love the iOS on a more life-proof phone but apple only has one phone to offer! Microsofts approach will offer consumers more choice in terms of what type of phone they want. In two years I will decide for sure but it looks like I will have a choice then. Android is just not secure enough for me to trust it with personal information. Now there will be two secure oses with high quality experiences.
 
i actually saw the whole keynote and windows phone 7 definitely has some very progressive functions! some way ahead of the iphone (and it's hard to say that because I'm a fanboy :) ). Their focus on doing things fast is really good and the phone does actually helps you do to things faster. and ofcourse there is no giant appstore yet, but there wasn't one the first year the iphone came out :)
 
Conner36 said:
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)

Finally. A new ui! This is what the smartphone scene needs to push new concepts and better experiences for everyone. Apple needs to streamline the iPhone ui currently it takes more steps to do simple things then is convenient.
Good for Microsoft in taking their time to polish a new concept they're a late to have a runaway hit but in time they should have a good following especially if they integrate xbox live and bring high quality developers into the touch ui fold and revolutionize a few things. That's one area that Apple was and is still weak. Apple needs to do more encourage AAA devs to write apps it took four years to get Epic or Autodesk interested in the iPhone?! The app store is great because it levels the playing field but small devs don't have enough resources to invest a big project for hardcore games and the like.
Apple finally will have competition. The world is right again. I am disappointed in the iPhone 4 hardware one drop from less than a foot of the ground and shattered glass I would love the iOS on a more life-proof phone but apple only has one phone to offer! Microsofts approach will offer consumers more choice in terms of what type of phone they want. In two years I will decide for sure but it looks like I will have a choice then. Android is just not secure enough for me to trust it with personal information. Now there will be two secure oses with high quality experiences.
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Agreed. People ridiculed Xbox with the same comments when MS first unveiled it, and now the Xbox fanbase is on par with Apple fanbase when it comes to loyalty.
 
rmwebs said:
^ This is why I'm not renewing my iPhone contract at the end of the month.

Its like steve decided "I don't want/need it, so nobody else will". They willingly cripple their stuff just to keep it simple. I hate to say it but MS are really turning themselves around at the moment and if Apple aren't careful, they'll sneak in.
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Have you seen market share. Sure they might get their toe in the door, then Apple will release iOS 5 and break it clean off.

Try to sell me a phone with Facebook built into the homescreen and you've already failed.
 
PinkyMacGodess said:
Ballmer has survived quite a few face plants so far that would have unseated many other CEO's...

I'm wondering if his driving the company into the ditch is a ploy to get the EU, etc, to back off them... Maybe if Microsoft is on the ropes hard enough, they will lose interest? Don't know...
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I hope Ballmer lives long and is never replaced. Microsoft's dominance in the past did more to hold back innovation than anything.

By the way, doesn't that display table look exactly like the kind used in Apple stores?
 
While I love the simplicity of the iPhone GUI, I do sometimes wish I had something a bit more. I don't know what yet, but no other mobile OS has made anything that I like more than iOS. Windows Phone 7 is a good effort, but I don't think I would enjoy using it over time. Like others have said, I wish out lockscreen would be able to show more info without having to jailbreak it.
 
roland.g said:
Try to sell me a phone with Facebook built into the homescreen and you've already failed.
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Don't you want to control what you see on your home screen? I'm tired of seeing a grid of items on every page, and nothing but a clock on my locked screen.
 
A great looking mobile OS with good hardware

I have 3 iPhones, one iPad, 2 MacPro towers, 2 MacBook Pros and old 17 inch Powerbook G4.
I love Apple products but I hate the Twee interface of iOS, you know Disney's Pirate Compass and their twee waiting room wood laminate bookcase for iBooks and so on.
Windows 7 phone has a distinct "digital" interface that is very intuitive and though I do not think it will be a roaring success right now, MS has the money to wait out the market as Android is so ugly!

Great start and in 2 years time I will bet that it will be iOS5 with Android Frodo whatever.. coming up third will be Windows 8 phone. RIM is finished and sadly so is the old Palm WebOS which is truly beautiful.

I like the look so far. Copy and paste I rarely use except on my iPad.
 
PeterQVenkman said:
Don't you want to control what you see on your home screen? I'm tired of seeing a grid of items on every page, and nothing but a clock on my locked screen.
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I don't need clutter on my home screen. I unlock it and use it and go on my way. I use my folders, my multitasking, and it all works quite well for me.
 
Can wait to see these babies lined up on store shelves....
right next to all of the ZUNE boxes sitting there...

Hey, does anyone else hear those crickets? :D
 
While I am intruiged bu the new approach to a UI, I'm surprised Microsoft has developed anything workably innovative. Their approach has historically been more...derivative.

The real question is Windows Phone 7 Home Premium, Professional, or Ultimate versions? :rolleyes:
 
PeterQVenkman said:
Don't you want to control what you see on your home screen? I'm tired of seeing a grid of items on every page, and nothing but a clock on my locked screen.
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No, I don't want my personal info on my lock screen. That is why its a locked screen.
 
There is one market that Windows Phone 7 is going to be able to seize, and that is business/enterprises.

IIRC, this is the only phone with SharePoint support, and for a lot of corporations, this is a make or break issue. Combine this with solid Exchange security (encrypting E-mail), and Windows Phone 7 will not just be a challenger against RIM for the corporate market, but also perhaps push out iPhones from the executive market.

Android is not playing in this field -- as of now, no Android device has the requisite security for serious Exchange use. Android has no encryption, enforcing of password policies, or remote destruct. Eventually it might sport these capabilities, but it still is a major obstacle for making enterprise inroads.
 
roland.g said:
I don't need clutter on my home screen. I unlock it and use it and go on my way. I use my folders, my multitasking, and it all works quite well for me.
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Then don't clutter it. On the other hand, I'd like weather to go along with date and time.

Isn't choice grand ? :rolleyes:

spazzcat said:
No, I don't want my personal info on my lock screen. That is why its a locked screen.
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Then don't put it there. And I fail to see how "Rain/Sun" and "degres" are personal info.

Seriously people : Choice. Look it up, it's a nice word.
 
mlts22 said:
Android is not playing in this field -- as of now, no Android device has the requisite security for serious Exchange use. Android has no encryption, enforcing of password policies, or remote destruct. Eventually it might sport these capabilities, but it still is a major obstacle for making enterprise inroads.
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*ahem* Android 2.2 supports all of that.
 
mlts22 said:
There is one market that Windows Phone 7 is going to be able to seize, and that is business/enterprises.

IIRC, this is the only phone with SharePoint support, and for a lot of corporations, this is a make or break issue. Combine this with solid Exchange security (encrypting E-mail), and Windows Phone 7 will not just be a challenger against RIM for the corporate market, but also perhaps push out iPhones from the executive market.

Android is not playing in this field -- as of now, no Android device has the requisite security for serious Exchange use. Android has no encryption, enforcing of password policies, or remote destruct. Eventually it might sport these capabilities, but it still is a major obstacle for making enterprise inroads.
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So what your saying is that many business people will be told by their companies that they have to use a Windows 7 garbage phone because it is the only one that plays nice with their work stuff. Sucks to be them.
 
This "hubs" idea is completely revolutionary!

They're just like Apps on an iPhone except that there is no space between them.

There doesn't appear to be any folders either, so you'll have to scroll through dozen of large app icons to find the one you're looking for.

Brilliant!
 
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