Im afraid to say that today i have taken delivery of a nice Nokia 3720 phone. I've had an iPhone 2g and 3g, but im selling and getting out of the iphone. My problem is with Apple and its walled garden approach to A) Developers and B) End users.
Disappointing Apple.
Ex fan of Apple.
Just tried in Safari, the maps render using Silverlight and the transition from maps to satellite to bird's eye is pretty smooth...I just tried Bing maps, and really I'm not impressed.
Tried viewing in 3D mode (using Safari ) and got this message:
"3D is currently not supported for your browser. For a list of supported browsers, see Help"
There isn't a hyperlink for "Help" in this message... you have to look around and find that "Help" is in the bottom right hand corner, in small font.
The UI is a disaster.
Additionally, Bing Maps relies on ActiveX for 3D mode, which sucks, so its windows only. There's little excuse for this. If Google, Nokia et al can do a multi-platform 3D mode, then so can microsoft.
Google Maps is vastly superior.
Of course, if you appreciate being forced into MS products and OSes because any other choice is close to unusable because no other company has access to Microsoft's specifications and the current open standards are ignored by the "good" people at Redmond, then go right ahead and use their products and encourage others to do so.
After DOS, Windows, the Web, I think I learned my lesson. Especially the web part. I'm sure all those people still stuck doing web developpement or desktop support just love the fact that IE 6 is a requirement even today in 2010, the alternative being to rewrite huge chunks of non-standard code.
As a Linux user and Unix sysadmin, I can't even begin to count the number of interop nightmares MS caused me. If Apple does go through with this, I'm not sure I can keep giving them my money. I stayed Microsoft free for the longest time, even if it sometimes meant I had to do things in a non-orthodox way. Everything is getting better nowadays as more people realise what mess MS made of things in the industry and moves away from vendor lock-in type solutions.
Hopefully, this is just a bad rumor.
Just tried in Safari, the maps render using Silverlight and the transition from maps to satellite to bird's eye is pretty smooth...
http://www.bing.com/maps/explore/
For phone calls and text messages, I use a Nokia too (6300). For emails, podcasts and all sorts of useless stuff, I use a jailbroken iPhone 3G. For navigation, I use my dedicated Garmin unit. For music, I use my Creative players.
Frankly, with limited battery life
poor sound
no autofocus
and pathetic video recording capabilities
For friends, I now recommend HTC smartphones. I saw a few recently and they make my iPhone look and feel embarrassingly outdated.
But it is surprising, how many very disappointed and angry former Apple fans I know.
You can develop for windows on any os and with a variety of dev kits, api's and languages. You can engineer any hardware you want as long as you can write a driver. No ridiculous conditions either like the os having to support blu Ray. It worked on xp as long as you had the right graphics card and driver
You can develop for windows on any os and with a variety of dev kits, api's and languages. You can engineer any hardware you want as long as you can write a driver. No ridiculous conditions either like the os having to support blu Ray. It worked on xp as long as you had the right graphics card and driver
Stella's original comment was aimed at the iPhone, not OS X. You can do all those things on OS X too. The OS doesn't need support for blu-ray, you just need to write a driver for it. In fact, OS X already supports Blu-ray drives, Blu-ray burners and now through 3rd parties, Blu-ray movie playback.
How does iPhone "lock in users?" It seems to me it supports lots of non-Apple file formats/data sources (exchange, mp3 files, etc).
The App Store. That was Stella's original point.
You must have huge pockets.
...Like, um, every other electronic device on the planet? Particularly competing products in the smartphone category?
I'm not sure I get it. We were talking about MS using proprietary/non-standard file formats. Allowing a single source of apps is annoying and despicable, but that's not what's meant by "locking in" users. Locking in refers to the idea that once you start using a device/OS/software program, your data is stuck, typically because of the use of proprietary, patent-locked file formats that cannot be used by any other software and lack of decent import/export.
You must have huge pockets.
Like, um, every other electronic device on the planet? Particularly competing products in the smartphone category?
I'm not sure I get it. We were talking about MS using proprietary/non-standard file formats. Allowing a single source of apps is annoying and despicable, but that's not what's meant by "locking in" users. Locking in refers to the idea that once you start using a device/OS/software program, your data is stuck, typically because of the use of proprietary, patent-locked file formats that cannot be used by any other software and lack of decent import/export.
i thought microsoft was google's and apple's enemy?
Bing = Boring Interface, Not Going
So I need to install SilverLight to into 3D mode?
Bing = Boring Interface, Not Going
All it requires is SilverLight. Seems pretty platform independent from there.
3D doesn't work
Typically, you experience this issue when your browser isn't configured correctly to use Microsoft ActiveX controls.
Silverlight is platform independant ? Really ? News to me. Seems it runs on platforms MS decides to support and nothing else.
And please, pretty please, don't say Moonlight... they're about 2 versions behind the current Silverlight and will be constantly playing catch up.
That's not my definition of platform independance.