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actually I not only thought he was rubbish, I thought he was a rude jerk for making his main joke going after the Jonas Brothers because they have pledged to stay virgins until marriage. and aren't shy about admitting this publicly.

in a world where Gossip Girl is the role model for teens these boys should be praised to taking a difficult and less popular road. not turned into a joke on live tv.

the whole thing made Brand look like a total jackass.

Didn't Britney Spears make the same vow? Hope the Jonas bros last longer than that.
 
I think this ad is chock full of metaphor that will only become apparent in hindsight after future ads are released. Anyone notice how many times "10" was mentioned?

Seinfeld: He's a 10.
Employee: 10
Seinfeld: That's a 10.
Seinfeld: Guess what Bill, you're a 10.

Hmm.

And what's with Gate's knowing look from :20 through :22 after:

Seinfeld: What is it?
Gates: Leather.

Leather...shuffle around a bit "The real" The real 10. The real X.

Just kidding. Truth be told, I think it was just another stupid commercial littering the wasteland that is American TV.
 
Weak...Sad...Too bad...

Hackneyed attempt at a rebuke. I was hoping for more. The only real MS content was after they leave the mall (after 1 min. mark). They could have started the commercial around that point. Sorry, this was a time waster. Does anyone notice that there was a lot of background noise around the punchline? Certainly could have re-done that.

On another note, glad to see others focusing on the ad, and not flaming each other--why does that seem to happen eventually in forums?! Even if one is "rude" keep on message. By the way, just because we are talking about it doesn't make the commercial good content, just good fodder.

One last note, at least Steve Jobs doesn't feel the need to star in his ads. Both Seinfeld and Gates have awkward moments on camera, some dead air. I don't know who was worse. I like how Gates looks confused at Seinfeld's "shower+clothes" comment; an apt moment for the entire ad.
 
Here's an extract from the MSNBC site:

Rather than getting our attention and making us wonder what those wacky Microsoft advertising folks might think of next, we found our mind wandering to other questions like, "When will this commercial end?"

The ad falls especially flat when compared to the obvious thorn in Microsoft’s side -- rival Apple’s widely successful series of spots that have poked fun at Microsoft’s staid image.

The "I’m a Mac/I’m a PC" ads work because they are quick, funny and, most important, they entertain us while actually promoting the product in question.

Microsoft’s ad, by contrast, doesn’t lay out any clear advertising strategy. Rather than taking on Apple’s franchise, it risks reinforcing the very things that Apple makes fun of Microsoft for.

What? Even a Microsoft copyrighted site is slamming Microsoft. Can things get any worse for them?

http://adblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/08/1362333.aspx
 
What? Even a Microsoft copyrighted site is slamming Microsoft. Can things get any worse for them?
Just enjoy the ad. I liked it. It's like having Seinfeld back on, even for only 90sec. Of course it won't likely have any effect as creative ads are not really the best way to sell a product... but that's not our problem! Just enjoy it. And if you don't... go watch something else.
 
Pep Rally

Wow, after suffering through that awful ad, and I had to balance things out. So I flipped over to the Apple ads and watched Pep Rally.

"PC's number 2, PC's number 2!"
 
If you want a little more insight from a geekier stand point, check out TWIT 159 where Leo and the gang break down the symbolism of this commercial. I would have to say if they are wrong about their theory then I don't thing Microsoft will be able to explain it ever.
 
How does this add show Windblows is better than Mac?

I do like the add. Pleather, and the look that Bill and Jerry give each other. How many takes did it take before they didn't bust out laughing?
 
How does this add show Windblows is better than Mac?

It launches a campaign - it wasn't meant to get into details yet.


Re blog quote: "The "I’m a Mac/I’m a PC" ads work because they are quick, funny and, most important, they entertain us while actually promoting the product in question."

The Apple ads are also taken in context of the entire campaign.

In isolation, some of them would be certain WTF moments - but they're not in isolation. Each one is a chapter in the dialogue between Mac and PC, each one has much implied by what you know about the characters.

Microsoft's campaign is just starting - and they're building the foundation for future ads.
 
weeeeird

[sarcasm] That totally makes me want to go buy a copy of Vista. [/sarcasm]

Seriously though, that could be a commercial for anything until the end until they're like "oh, by the way, this is a commercial for Windows, we almost forgot."

Yeah, it's definetly like by the way the commerical is for this. I hate those commericals. Microsoft is just trying to make funny commercials like the mac. Sorry they can't, because we will always dominate, nothing on a pc is better than a mac. :apple:
 
I'd like to see a Mac/PC ad where PC is standing in front of a Brick Background with a drummer and a Microphone and he tells a bunch of non-sequiters while Mac attempts to talk about the new Macbook. It would be hilarious and would probably sink Microsoft's ad campaign.
 
Given the terrible reviews Microsoft will probably drop the ads completely,which would be sad,cos they sure are drumming up more interest in Apple.
 
It launches a campaign - it wasn't meant to get into details yet.


Re blog quote: "The "I’m a Mac/I’m a PC" ads work because they are quick, funny and, most important, they entertain us while actually promoting the product in question."

The Apple ads are also taken in context of the entire campaign.

In isolation, some of them would be certain WTF moments - but they're not in isolation. Each one is a chapter in the dialogue between Mac and PC, each one has much implied by what you know about the characters.

Microsoft's campaign is just starting - and they're building the foundation for future ads.

Maybe. But I bet that most people "got it" the first time they saw the Apple ads, and it seems that most people don't after seeing the MS ad. If that is MS's strategy, they aren't doing a very good job with it. It's almost a microcosm of the whole Apple campaign: Macs are easy to "get it" right away, and Windows takes more time & energy - even right down to the ads. I agree with the MSNBC analysis that says these ads risk highlighting the very things that Apple is poking fun at them for.
 
Given the terrible reviews....

Like these:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10034455-71.html?tag=rtcol;pop

Some people love it. Some people hate it.

Which is why Crispin Porter and Bogusky, the agency responsible for the otherworldly new Microsoft TV spot featuring the clowning Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld, is already happy.

The first aim of any Crispin campaign is to get people talking about the ad. So it seems to be a success.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10033667-17.html?tag=mncol

Reality Check: The Seinfeld ad was superb



I'm sure that CP+B were expecting a cool (but noisy) reception for the quirky starter ad.
 
Maybe. But I bet that most people "got it" the first time they saw the Apple ads, and it seems that most people don't after seeing the MS ad. If that is MS's strategy, they aren't doing a very good job with it. It's almost a microcosm of the whole Apple campaign: Macs are easy to "get it" right away, and Windows takes more time & energy - even right down to the ads. I agree with the MSNBC analysis that says these ads risk highlighting the very things that Apple is poking fun at them for.

MS is taking the right approach here. Clarity, coherence, functionality, and synchrony have never been attributes of their products or offerings. Many will likely be happily distracted by episodes such as these, in that they draw focus away from Windows, distracting viewers from one convoluted drama called Vista, into a parallel convoluted drama called 'Let's reinvent Seinfeld.' If distracting us from the shortfalls of Windows, and MS in general, in a complicated and redundant manner is the goal here, then this commercial ought to be deemed successful. This half-baked effort is certainly praise worthy, with consideration to it's sponsor.
 
Its refreshing for a company like Microsoft to make an ad like this, better than the rubbish Apple puts out constantly trashing their competition.
 
Its refreshing for a company like Microsoft to make an ad like this, better than the rubbish Apple puts out constantly trashing their competition.

Agreed. I think it actually makes Apple look bad. Whilst they've got an overly aggressive campaign Microsoft is being far more sedate. My hope is Apple moves onto a new campaign, Mac vs PC was entertaining for a while - the audacity was refreshing, but I think it's time to move on.
 
Agreed. I think it actually makes Apple look bad. Whilst they've got an overly aggressive campaign Microsoft is being far more sedate. My hope is Apple moves onto a new campaign, Mac vs PC was entertaining for a while - the audacity was refreshing, but I think it's time to move on.

Why is it that the posters who try to defend this commercial as "Superb!" use the word "Rubbish!" all the time to describe the hugely successful Apple ads.Is it because they lack a broad vocabulary? Now Apple has planted it's teeth sharply into Microsoft with their advertising,much as you would like them to release,they wont,just wait for the next attacks-they'll be much more aggressive!Maybe by then Bill will be doing a lap dance!
 
Why is it that the posters who try to defend this commercial as "Superb!" use the word "Rubbish!" all the time to describe the hugely successful Apple ads.Is it because they lack a broad vocabulary?

Why are you asking me this?
 
Maybe. But I bet that most people "got it" the first time they saw the Apple ads, and it seems that most people don't after seeing the MS ad. If that is MS's strategy, they aren't doing a very good job with it. It's almost a microcosm of the whole Apple campaign: Macs are easy to "get it" right away, and Windows takes more time & energy - even right down to the ads. I agree with the MSNBC analysis that says these ads risk highlighting the very things that Apple is poking fun at them for.

What's not to get? In the future, you'll be able to eat computers like cake. Seems simple enough. :rolleyes:
 
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