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I'm sure we appreciate the /g/ trolls around here.

LOL, hardly trolling –*it strikes me as odd when people claim to be "different", yet they don't see that they're being no less "different" than the 70-85 percent that buys the exact same products. Hell, most of them even buy the product "because that's what everyone else is buying".

One can't on hand claim NOT to part of the masses, yet be the perfect example of a mass consumer. Hell, you even propose a google product in your signature. :p
 
Please find or make a better competitor for searching MacRumors.

Sorry, I'm not willing to do your research. I'm not the one claiming not to be one of the anonymous masses either. You are. I'm taking it you don't own an iPhone or an iPod, because you're not one of the anonymous masses?

As I said: Figures …
 
Sorry, I'm not willing to do your research. I'm not the one claiming not to be one of the masses either. You are. I'm taking it you don't own an iPhone or an iPod?

As I said: Figures …
I don't own an iPod or iPhone.

You point out the Google based solution that I linked to and it's not my work or product either. What's the alternative?
 
What a piece of ****. What are they proving in this ad? That copying us is legal or making them sound/look smarter? Give me a break they all look like they're on anti-depressants, I wonder why, Vista maybe. Or other Crappy Microsoft Products they keep producing? This has to be a joke. Did this really AIR on television? This isn't creative at all with their idea making in this commercial they call success. Please give up or kill yourself Gates/Microsoft team.

Uh, hello, calling things "gay" as a negative is not only insulting, it's junior high. Grow up and try getting a thesaurus if you can't express displeasure without insulting gay people.
 
I purchased a macbook pro 3 months ago. I use to own a dell XPS laptop with a 320g hard drive that I installed. So, I decided to swap hard drives and give the priority to my new awesome looking "unique" mac laptop. Made backups of everything because I figured 2 different computers you know.

So, I make the swap and I hit the power button on my MBP and what do you know. Vista loaded off the BAT! No boot-camp, no nothing.

Amazing! I know.

To all you MAC users that give APPLE a bad name by thinking your the cream of the crop because you own a MAC COMPUTER. Please get off your high horse and come back to reality your using a windows computer wrapped in apple attire.

This new Microsoft ads are more down to earth then the mac ads.
 
That's a great commercial, I've got to admit.

Much better than those random Seinfeld commercials that don't make clear what it is it's advertising...
 
I purchased a macbook pro 3 months ago. I use to own a dell XPS laptop with a 320g hard drive that I installed. So, I decided to swap hard drives and give the priority to my new awesome looking "unique" mac laptop. Made backups of everything because I figured 2 different computers you know.

So, I make the swap and I hit the power button on my MBP and what do you know. Vista loaded off the BAT! No boot-camp, no nothing.

Amazing! I know.

To all you MAC users that give APPLE a bad name by thinking your the cream of the crop because you own a MAC COMPUTER. Please get off your high horse and come back to reality your using a windows computer wrapped in apple attire.

I feel sorry for anyone who really bases their self worth on something they purchased.

I also feel sorry for anyone who has to use Vista, even if it is on a MBP.
 
come back to reality your using a windows computer wrapped in apple attire.

Do you know anything about Xerox/Apple/NeXT/Microsoft and the history of the GUI and the desktop we know today?

Because if you did this comment would amuse you quite a bit…
 
I purchased a macbook pro 3 months ago. I use to own a dell XPS laptop with a 320g hard drive that I installed. So, I decided to swap hard drives and give the priority to my new awesome looking "unique" mac laptop. Made backups of everything because I figured 2 different computers you know.

So, I make the swap and I hit the power button on my MBP and what do you know. Vista loaded off the BAT! No boot-camp, no nothing.

Amazing! I know.

To all you MAC users that give APPLE a bad name by thinking your the cream of the crop because you own a MAC COMPUTER. Please get off your high horse and come back to reality your using a windows computer wrapped in apple attire.

The Mac booted Vista because it has BIOS emulation. Macs use EFI when booted into OS X. But for backwards compatibility with older operating systems that are stuck in the 80s, EFI can emulate BIOS.

I've done it. I booted a Ubuntu live CD once. The Mac started in EFI, then went into BIOS emulation mode and for that moment was just like any other PC out there.
 
i hate it, but i also hate apple's "i'm a ..." ads as well. The iphone ads were fine because it was about how great the product is and displayed what new things you can now do with a phone.
I can see the appeal of the apple ads to new comers but ultimately i don't think microsoft is loosing anything because it. I find it hard to believe ms threw $300 million at this and this is what they've produced (so far). MS has such dominance in the computing world to me the money would have been better spent funding a new comic movie.
I've got an iphone (3g, sold the first one), 2 mac pros, i might as well give apple a signed blank check. Microsoft biggest threat is not apple and "i'm a pc" campaign is not going to do anything to gain or bring back anymore market share.
 
hahah

that advert is awsome!!!!!!

pharrell williams! hahahahahahaah

but the neptunes and pharrell use macintoshes for making music. this is a fact. theyve said it themselves. soo........... why is he doing this??

i guess PC could mean other things tho......

cool advert.......

makes me wanna go back to pc................NOT.

lol

all of those celebs man....they use macs....so ...... advertising is a big con....advertising is a big lie......

that is a very good advert tho......the best one out of all the mac v pc ads.
 
I purchased a macbook pro 3 months ago. I use to own a dell XPS laptop with a 320g hard drive that I installed. So, I decided to swap hard drives and give the priority to my new awesome looking "unique" mac laptop. Made backups of everything because I figured 2 different computers you know.

So, I make the swap and I hit the power button on my MBP and what do you know. Vista loaded off the BAT! No boot-camp, no nothing.

Amazing! I know.

To all you MAC users that give APPLE a bad name by thinking your the cream of the crop because you own a MAC COMPUTER. Please get off your high horse and come back to reality your using a windows computer wrapped in apple attire.

This new Microsoft ads are more down to earth then the mac ads.

you did that with a macbook pro? thats brave yo.
but good for you.
yeah macs are just branded pc's.
so why buy a macbook if youre putting in a windows hard drive?
 
Some ad analyst said Microsoft playing the victim card is a pretty big mistake, the ads don't make me feel any different towards Microsoft, they're just trying to get all lovey dovey with us, next they'll be mailing everyone muffins and whatnot...
 
MS is doing this to turn the stereotype that apple creat to PCs in her favor. Apple say that pc is bad, use mac is better! MS say: if Pc is bad why more then 80% of ppl of the world use? The truth is that MS not a PC. Dell, HP... is a pc. MS is a MAC and a PC because do software to the both, including Vista and XP. But the big money come form PC and until MACOS work on a PC. Microsoft have to defend the image of the PC.

p.s. How much $$ apple spent to damage de PC image over this years? How much MS invest on image this decade? :confused:
 
Get your advertising photo copiers started.

Windows is now also copying Mac's advertising angles.

Do they have no shame or good original ideas - apparently not. When did the I'm a mac ads start?, they have taken their time coming up with a mimicry response.

Mac should hit back. The Windows ad is so earnest and self-important. Like to say, 'we are people, not just computers'. Well duh!

Let them eat Vista!
 
No offense to all of the ultra-cool Mac owners out there, but do you really base your self-worth by the Operating System that you run?

Anyway,
I have a Macbook for music recording and video editing and a Compaq Desktop computer for gaming, and computer programming.

PC and Mac offer a lot of the same, but I still have to use my PC for all sorts of tasks and I love it, but I also love my Mac to death.

I can have my cake and eat it too.


BTW, I like the new ad. What you need to understand is that it isn't trying to sell more Vista operating systems -- it's part of Microsoft's 300 million dollar "Re-Branding" campaign. I think Apple went about it all wrong by attacking the "coolness" of a PC user. What they need to understand is that 90% of the world still uses a PC in daily life and a lot of those people own BOTH a PC and a Mac. Apple has an AMAZING product and they don't need to attack the windows users.
 
Hmmm...

Back in reality there are no tricky times for Apple.

Apple creates products that create buzz and that regular folk want to buy. Whether it be the Mac computers, the latest iPod or the iPhone (which despite it's well documented problems has a captured a huge wave of momentum).

Apple might create products that 'regular' folk want to buy, but Apple's not pitching at 'regular' folk. The price point distinguishes that. You can argue till the cows come home about speccing out a PC, buying all the software etc., but the simple truth is that some folks will always take a look at it and go: "Dell Core 2 Duo w. 20" monitor and Vista £499, Apple iMac 20" £799. Mine's a Dell"

As far as the iPhone success story goes. Apple was admittedly taking a huge risk entering the mobile market. But, they entered a space with a proven business model (hardware/software tie-up of Mac & OS X, iPod & iTunes) at a time when competitor offerings were in a bit of a rut. No-one was chomping at the bit for Windows Mobile 6, and no-one out there gets the slightest bit passionate about Symbian OS developments, Palm were dying a death, and RIM, though not the slightest bit sexy, seemed to have enterprise wrapped up. Handset manufacturers generally had gone way too far down a particular road - network operator subsidies - that devalued the products they were marketing, and which gave their devices an undesirably short life cycle for the new revenue generating paradigm: mobile software and services. No-one is ever going to invest more than nominal sums in a device that they know they won't be keeping for any more than twelve months. Apple came in, tried to shake it up by not accepting network operator subsidies, and introduced a device at a premium pricepoint. Again, regular people might have wanted to buy one, but the iPhone wasn't originally pitched at 'regular' folk.

And, there will be tricky times ahead for Apple. They are a personality led firm. Steve is great. Steve is Apple. Apple is great. That is why the share price takes a wobble each time there's a whisper about his health, and why succession planning for his eventual retirement will be a much bigger headache than Ballmer taking over from Gates, which, when you look at it, really deserved to be a total disaster. Microsoft can take it because they've never really paraded Bill about in the same way Apple have Steve (or Steve has Steve).

They also seem to have no problem with ideas for campaigns which tell a compelling story and engage consumers.

You see aside from “Get a Mac” Apple has also had “Think Different”, “Switch” “iPod Dancers” or more recently the iconic Manila Envelope (look on YouTube for parodies, there are hundreds).

The last MS commercial that had any weight was “start me up”.

I'm not unaware that Apple has run ad campaigns prior to "Get A Mac", but this is a particular instance where they have a major competitor, one that dwarfs them in both market share and turnover, attempting to directly undermine what has until now been a succesful campaign. I don't doubt that there will be hordes of skillful advertising executives generating myriad novel ways that Apple can work their way out of this situation. It's just that its the first time in a long time that they will have had to. That is, itself, noteworthy and why this thread has generated so many posts.

This most recent commercial just picks up from Get a Mac. Where would Microsoft be without Apple to give them ideas?

Right, next you're going to be telling me that they somehow owe the XBox sucess to The Pippin.

They'd probably be in the same place as they would be with or without these commercials. Selling millions of software licences a year through their OEMs, the majority of which are “purchased” buy people who either don't understand what they are buying or don't care as long as they can get online and read their emails.

I'm a PC.

All Microsoft advertise is the PC, a PC doesn't have to run Windows or even come with Windows. Apple advertises the Mac, a Mac doesn't have to run Mac OS X, but (crucially) it always comes with Mac OS X.

You know that, for all the difference it makes, PC might as well mean Windows. If you go to Tesco to buy a PC, and I can't imagine who would but they stock them so people must, then you're getting Windows. PC World, you're getting Windows. Dixons, Comet, Currys: you're getting Windows. Even if there is a Linux option how much of a push is it going to be given when (a) sales staff don't know as well how to sell it (b) tech staff don't know as well how to support it. Linux has got a long way to go before it gets any serious consumer foothold.

In actual fact, as the various Linux distros inch ever closer to being maintainable and usable by your average Joe it might not be such a bad move that Microsoft does try to re-establish that PC/Windows link.

So really it would seem Microsoft face the trickier times as these aren't very good adverts for Windows. Not that Microsoft needs to advertise Windows anyway. And they never ever give one single reason not to buy a Mac or look for alternatives.

Apple's "Get A Mac" ads are a negative ad campaign. They lord the virtues of the Mac over the PC. Not the virtues of the Mac standalone, but in direct comparison to those of the PC. The Microsoft ads are attempting to make Apple's look smug and childish by comparison. Its more sophisticated than tit-for-tat. Look at all those smiling faces and repeat after me "I'm a PC"...

Its a slice of fried gold, my friend.


It's a bit much to say "experts in the subject agree with me." Makes it sound like you've had them on the phone giving you the proverbial pat on the back, like you're bessie mates. Fairer to say that you find that particular individuals assessment of the situation persuasive.

*Grumble, grumble, experts, grumble, grumble*
 
Pc Users Are Generally Nicer More Unassuming More Friendly More Down To Earth People Than Apple Mac Owners.

Apple Mac Users Generally Have Bad Personality Traits.
Often Snobby. Air Of Superiority. Not Humble Or Nice.

Pc People Are Nicer People.

Apple Owners Have Over The Years Been Brainwashed By Apple Advertising.

I Own Both. But If I Had To Take Sides In A War, Id Be On Windows Pc Side. (although I Use And Prefer A Mac, I Want To Be Associated With Pc Users. Too Much Bi**a*sness With Mac Users. As P Diddy Would Say.
 
I Own Both. But If I Had To Take Sides In A War, Id Be On Windows Pc Side. (although I Use And Prefer A Mac, I Want To Be Associated With Pc Users. Too Much Bi**a*sness With Mac Users. As P Diddy Would Say.

I quite agree. I'm seriously thinking of dusting off the A1200, souping it up a bit, or moving to Amiga OS4.

Seriously, I am.
 
bob2131 said:
What they need to understand is that 90% of the world still uses a PC in daily life and a lot of those people own BOTH a PC and a Mac. Apple has an AMAZING product and they don't need to attack the windows users.
Apple realise this, which is why they don't attack Windows users.

Hodgeman + Long aren't people, they are computers. I know Microsoft's and their ad agency couldn't work this out, but most people of reasonable intelligence can draw the distinction.

Apple is attacking the Windows platform, not the users. Which is why the only people who get offended by Apple's Get A Mac ads are Windows enthusiasts.

Apple Owners Have Over The Years Been Brainwashed By Apple Advertising.
Many Windows users have been hoodwinked into getting a computer whose most expensive compontent is invisible and often the only choice.

I feel so sorry for all the Apple users who have gone out of their way to find one of the few other choices. Just like I weep tears for all those Linux and FreeBSD users who got conned by all that talk of “openness” and “freedom”.

Yes, right lot of suckers the lot of us.

Not like all nice, down to earth, humble people who use Windows.
 
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