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Microsoft's Longhorn

e-coli said:
This is an extremely old build of the interface. The new layout and look is quite different. It's stunning, actually.

The only thing that's remained is the strange (and HUGE) back button in the top navigation. And the dark grey metallic color.
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They must have just updated then because that was a screenshot from the build released at WinHEC...here's the link

http://www.flexbeta.net/main/articles.php?action=show&id=55&perpage=1&pagenum=2

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One TB Hard Disk ??? May be it'll have 16 install disks. A few Linux disks may be. Just a funny thought.
 
pjkelnhofer said:
Oh yeah, that is pretty confusing, Floppy Drive, CD Drive, etc.

What could these things mean?

Excuse the sarcasm, I am in a crappy mood today.
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ok, the CD drive i get, but what is this floppy drive they are talking about? is it some sort of new storage technology? :rolleyes:
 
SiliconAddict said:
Because it's not technically a folder. The My Computer is a placeholder for your various drives be it hard drives, optical drives, floppy drives or network drives. Imagine the chaos if in a network environment you had 8 drive mappings being added to your desktop and then removed when you are off the network. Your desktop would be in a constant state of flux. By keeping everything under My Computer it keeps it relatively organized.
Its just as there is now a central location for all networking items under My Network Places that handles all things networking. Also it's a simple task to right click on the drive you want to select shortcut. Since you can't store a shortcut in My Computer it will prompt "Do you want to place this on the desktop" Answer yes and you have your drive on your desktop which you can just as easily drag to your taskbar toolbar.
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I totally agree on this one. I have two three external drives that I do not use all the time, so I turn the off when I do not need them. It drives me crazy that no matter how many times I arrange it on my desktop exactly where I want it, it reappears in a new place the next time it gets turned on. I keep a bunch of things on my desktop and I hate then when I am using the drives everything gets moved around.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Um actually that's not a bad idea considering how many patches games have appended to them post release. Instead of needing to go out to the software developers site you simply have to run or even schedule an update. Nice.

I've heard that MS was going to start providing windows update type services to other software companies but I didn't think it would be as soon as Longhorn. This could actually be a really nice feature if they get it implemented right.
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Yea I agree that it's a great idea, but Microsoft always seems to take great ideas and implement them very badly.

I can see it now...

Run Game...
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Please update game.

Click Update Game...
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Updating...File rey45.dll cannot be found, update aborted.

Run Game...
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Incomplete update. Reinstall Game.

Get out CD, and reinstall...
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Game version mismatch, please update.

Click Update...
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Game not found in database, please report to Microsoft.

Report to Microsoft...
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You must now reboot.
 
I dunno, guys. So many cracks about how much longhorn sucks. Does anybody actually know? If they have a mac like GUI, not just in function but in form also... that's one thing they got right this time. Maybe they got the whole thing right? We should be just a little bit scared. It's not likely, but if this isn't just another whole pile of bugs.....
 
Powerbook G5 said:
I saw the requirements before. A triple core 4-6 GHz (64-bit recommended) processor, 2 gigs of RAM, and 1 TB of HD...what the heck? And this is just to run the OS itself. As soon as you open solitaire, I bet it will come crashing to a halt with how many resources are going to be monopolized by Windows. I seriously cannot believe anyone would consider this kind of bloat to be acceptable.
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Fortunately for PC users, probably the OS won't be out until 2010... Until then, we might all have 4-6 GHz computers... ;)
 
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dontmatter said:
I dunno, guys. So many cracks about how much longhorn sucks. Does anybody actually know? If they have a mac like GUI, not just in function but in form also... that's one thing they got right this time. Maybe they got the whole thing right? We should be just a little bit scared. It's not likely, but if this isn't just another whole pile of bugs.....
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if.

question, what do you recall MS getting right? now figure the odds and get back to us.............. ;)
 
idkew said:
there you go. "RAID now required. No one makes a HD large enough to fit out bloatware on a single drive"
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Umm actually I expect to see RAID become standard in the future. A failed HD is the biggest potential for data loss on a computer. I'm betting in the next 4 years you are going to see SATA RAID become mainstream with 3x 500GB hard drives RAIDed. Cheaper end computer will always stick with single drives for price but higher end system will probably start to incorporate poor mans RAID.
 
if memory serves, the average machine when xp came out was in the 1ghz range...the specs for xp call for a 300mhz chip to run. even so, that suggests that longhorn will require a 1-2 ghz chip at minimum. according to the screenshots, the current install size is somewhere around 3.5 gigs, apparently not including the new ui.

i have the feeling that the specs are pretty high to encourage new hardware purchases, and this will help the adoption of janus. im just wondering if longhorn will actually require trusted hardware.
 
unfaded said:
The problem is, they will have a Mac OS X UI of today...in six years Where will we be by then?
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Kind of link when Windows95 came out, and my friends and I refered to it as Macintosh84.
 
dontmatter said:
I dunno, guys. So many cracks about how much longhorn sucks. Does anybody actually know? If they have a mac like GUI, not just in function but in form also... that's one thing they got right this time. Maybe they got the whole thing right?
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Wow. Never would have guessed that you're from... Seattle! :p
 
So much windows bashing

Man, havn't seen so much windows bashing ever...

That's ok, you should've seen us bashing OSx over on the windows community
 
This thread made me realize how dilusional some Mac fans are. Kind of sad to see. The reason I'm switching to a Mac next month is because I think they currently have the best OS, the best working environment, and the best creative-type software available. If Microsoft can provide a better computing experience when I need a new computer after this Powerbook runs its course, I'll gladly drop Apple.
 
jasonbw said:
im just wondering if longhorn will actually require trusted hardware.
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It WILL NOT. The feature will come disabled by default. Microsoft has stated this time and again because they don't want to scare the crap out of people.
 
Win 95 + Pentium

You have to think back and compare to Win95. Suppose in 1990, Microsoft had said "well, you need a 486-133 to run Windows 95, but to really use it, you'll need a Pentium." Back in '90, you were styling if you had a 386SX. So maybe it's not that excessive.

One question though - is Longhorn 64 bit? It seems like it would be, given the RAM requirements. But if so, does Intel have any decent 64 bit processors on the way?
 
dontmatter said:
I dunno, guys. So many cracks about how much longhorn sucks. Does anybody actually know? If they have a mac like GUI, not just in function but in form also... that's one thing they got right this time. Maybe they got the whole thing right? We should be just a little bit scared. It's not likely, but if this isn't just another whole pile of bugs.....
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Yeah, as I read through this thread that is he one thing that naws at me. By the time LongHorn is released, a lot will have changed. M$ overall goal as a company, along with their business philosophy might not, but programmers will change, Artists will change, the design team will change. M$ is now KNOWN for being a buggy OS, so do you really think they are going to make the same mistake twice? They are evil, but they aren't stupid. And worst of all, or best, is that it won't be released for a VERY long time, giving them plenty of time to work out all the bugs, and add plenty of new and cool features that even Microsoft could pull off in that time frame. And with the Mac and OSX.5 running on the desk next to them, how can they go wrong?! :D

But seriously, I think we need to give them a little credit, and keep our eyes on this. Ignorance has been the downfall of all too many groups in Earths History.

Tyler
 
tristan said:
You have to think back and compare to Win95. Suppose in 1990, Microsoft had said "well, you need a 486-133 to run Windows 95, but to really use it, you'll need a Pentium." Back in '90, you were styling if you had a 386SX. So maybe it's not that excessive.
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MS claims Longhorn will be out in 2006. Therefore, you would have to change your date to "Back in '93". In 1993, saying a 486-133 would not be too far fetched. Although I think the 486 never went past 99MHz.

Now 4GHz does not seem out of the question. But 6 and 1TB of hard disk in the *average* computer seems a bit much.
 
I'm sure this was posted earlier and I'm not about to go through 5 pages but hey, it's a good laugh.

During the presentation, a comparison of workflow in Longhorn and Windows XP by Jim Allchin, vice-president of Microsoft, reportedly went sour. When Allchin attempted to launch Quake on the Longhorn equipped machine, it slowly crashed and died. Allchin immediately attempted to downplay the glitch, saying the test PC was slow and the demo worked fine during previous tests.
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Xnet said:
Here are more images of the AVALON UI

http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/pdc2003_aero_keynote.asp

and a small video in .wmv

http://www.winsupersite.com/files/pdc2003_avalon_transparency.wmv
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Interesting. One of those images shows something called "stacks," which sounds awfully similar (in name and function) to the "piles" concept that has been rumored to be coming to OS X for some time.

Edit: what I get for not reading the whole thread first. Obviously this has been mentioned several times previously.
 
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