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It's how *will* it help Microsoft.

It won't be for 6 months to a year that it will be possible to gauge the effect of these ads.

I suspect that it won't become clear until Windows 7 is launched - then we'll see that many "loose ends" come together.

How will *they* help Microsoft!
 
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Who say this is a tv ad?
First only apples say on the site "see tv ad".
MS write watch "New video Gates. Seinfield".
Second, this videos are 500% more funny than the apple.
Forget the "hate everything made by microsof" and appreciate the art of Seinfield!:D
 
from an entertainment standpoint, i think these ads are actually pretty funny and i like watching them. you can tell seinfeld has had quite a bit of influence in the writing of the material for the ads and they are humorous.

from a marketing standpoint, i think these ads are terrible. they do nothing at all to sell microsoft, describe no features, do nothing to say why they stand above apple or any other software company/platform.

i think they're spending a crap load of money making humorous commercials with no purpose.

at any rate, i like them. and since i don't think they'll help microsoft any . . . i like them even more (my fanboi status had to come in somewhere!!:D).
 
Watch it again - they paid $600 for the Chinese takeout. It's more convoluted than you realize....

Actually, it seems that Jerry only told him the greek coins were worth $1800 because thats how much the wife told him she had hidden away. Hate to burst your bubble but I don't think Jerry is an expert on greek coins and I dont think any one is worth $600 unless it was dug up from a long long time ago. Jerry probably gave the kid a coin worth maybe ten cents or so. I dont know, maybe if you find a coin worth $600 that an average person would have you could sway my opinion on that one.
 
Actually, it seems that Jerry only told him the greek coins were worth $1800 because thats how much the wife told him she had hidden away. Hate to burst your bubble but I don't think Jerry is an expert on greek coins and I dont think any one is worth $600 unless it was dug up from a long long time ago. Jerry probably gave the kid a coin worth maybe ten cents or so. I dont know, maybe if you find a coin worth $600 that an average person would have you could sway my opinion on that one.

You really are determined to hate this video, aren't you? Probably nothing that I can say will make any difference, since you're looking at it from a dogmatic Microsoft-hating viewpoint.

Anyway, I said "convoluted" - and you tried to make it simple (maybe that's all your brain cell can handle :p).

Think about the possibilities....
  • Perhaps Jerry is a numismatist
  • Perhaps Jerry stole the Greek coins from the father, not the leather giraffe from Cabo
  • Perhaps the delivery boy immediately rang the doorbell, and insisted on real money (but that got cut during editing)
  • Perhaps Jerry felt guilty about telling the father that the Greek coins were worth that much, and bought them from the father

When your mind is blinded by hate, you really can't grasp what you're being shown.
 
Actually, it seems that Jerry only told him the greek coins were worth $1800 because thats how much the wife told him she had hidden away. Hate to burst your bubble but I don't think Jerry is an expert on greek coins and I dont think any one is worth $600 unless it was dug up from a long long time ago. Jerry probably gave the kid a coin worth maybe ten cents or so. I dont know, maybe if you find a coin worth $600 that an average person would have you could sway my opinion on that one.

The delivery boy represents one of Microsofts new gurus receiving his first gold star!
 
Hmm... Aren't commercials suppose to make you more intelligent??? Why can't I stop feeling that I just feel dummer by the minute...
That's school.

So not only do they not relate to real people... they rip off the chinese food and get caught stealing....

How is this good for windows again?
yeah... they "stole" some chinese food and paid the dude with a 600 dollar coin. Cheepies!

Anyways, this is a commercial, come on guys calm down. It's not like it's real. Oh no he stole chinese food and paid it with a stolen coin!
 
Although this one was funny, I still have the urge to show this...

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So that's what a PC troll looks like.
 
No. I try not to go that far. Just couldn't resist this time after reading all the other comments.



If I was a PC troll, I woulda posted a picture the first time around. I was bored. =P

I was refering to the photo with the Pc trollop! oops... I mean the PC troll,not you.
 
Although , comedy is such a personal 'thing'

Lets analyse the problem. Windows Vista when released was riddled with bugs, SP1 came along an sorted almost all of them out - with updates regularly being released. What is the storyline Microsoft is trying to say to the public.

What you need to do is having an ad campaign that Microsoft is listening to customer needs, complaints etc.

Have a satirical skit with Bill Gates (maybe Steve Balmer) working on the Microsoft help desk - Bill Gates wanting to know what 'real people' think (have a prior clip of him sitting at his desk surrounded by yes men - and him being frustrated not getting the full story). Then build up from there.
 
Oh the humanity!

This Hindenburg ad campaign will go down in flames! It looks like it was "created" by 20 year-old "posers" who are pretending to be big-time ad execs. This is what you get when you give $10M to "creative" PC dweebs.
 
Lets analyse the problem. Windows Vista when released was riddled with bugs, SP1 came along an sorted almost all of them out - with updates regularly being released. What is the storyline Microsoft is trying to say to the public.

What you need to do is having an ad campaign that Microsoft is listening to customer needs, complaints etc.

Have a satirical skit with Bill Gates (maybe Steve Balmer) working on the Microsoft help desk - Bill Gates wanting to know what 'real people' think (have a prior clip of him sitting at his desk surrounded by yes men - and him being frustrated not getting the full story). Then build up from there.

:confused: I have no " problem " ? .

I said " comedy is a personal thing" meaning , I personally didn't find the clip you linked to 'funny' ! , comedy is a personal thing so for you to tell us how it is meant to be is futile ....

I don't do business with Microsoft so am unaware of these issues you mention ....I found the 1st ad boring and the second made me smile , that's all , no drama here .
 
Microsofts next ad should be Steve Ballmer's "Developers developers developers developers" video... That will get attention and stick in your head, which is the point of any ad, aint it?

Plus, it would be very funny! :p
 
Lets analyse the problem. Windows Vista when released was riddled with bugs, SP1 came along an sorted almost all of them out - with updates regularly being released.


It's also true that:

Lets analyse the problem. OSX 10.5 (Leopard) when released was riddled with bugs, 10.5.1 and 10.5.2 and 10.5.3 and 10.5.4 came along an sorted almost all of them out - with updates regularly being released.

Pot, meet kettle. This is the usual path for OS releases - the ".0" is less stable than subsequent releases.

Also, note that Vista SP1 was only a 50 MB download if you had been running Windows Update - most of SP1 had already been released through the automatic patch cycles. Vista improved continually from launch to SP1, with the most serious issues being fixed rather quickly.
 
It's also true that:



Pot, meet kettle. This is the usual path for OS releases - the ".0" is less stable than subsequent releases.

Also, note that Vista SP1 was only a 50 MB download if you had been running Windows Update - most of SP1 had already been released through the automatic patch cycles. Vista improved continually from launch to SP1, with the most serious issues being fixed rather quickly.

yes but vista seemed to have MORE problems then when leopard/tiger came out. at least leopard actually installed for me. vista bluescreens on the installer screen, so you know.. not a very good impression first up.
 
there are always horror stories

...at least leopard actually installed for me. vista bluescreens on the installer screen...

If you look at places like macfixit.com, you'll also find anecdotes about similar OSX horrors.

If your system blue-screens on the installer, you have either broken hardware or an unusual unsupported device. Millions of copies of Vista have been installed, so clearly not everyone is getting a blue-screen. You sound silly when you imply that this is a common problem.

A more common experience is that people find that Vista is the most stable version of Windows that they have ever used. It's that way for me (except the server versions have always been extremely reliable, but some of that is because servers don't get the same usage patterns as personal systems). If I didn't have to run our company's VPN solution, I would be able say that I've never had a BSOD on my Vista laptop in the 22 months that I've had it. The two BSODs that I've had in 22 months were in the VPN network stack.
 
If you look at places like macfixit.com, you'll also find anecdotes about similar OSX horrors.

If your system blue-screens on the installer, you have either broken hardware or an unusual unsupported device. Millions of copies of Vista have been installed, so clearly not everyone is getting a blue-screen. You sound silly when you imply that this is a common problem.

A more common experience is that people find that Vista is the most stable version of Windows that they have ever used. It's that way for me (except the server versions have always been extremely reliable, but some of that is because servers don't get the same usage patterns as personal systems). If I didn't have to run our company's VPN solution, I would be able say that I've never had a BSOD on my Vista laptop in the 22 months that I've had it. The two BSODs that I've had in 22 months were in the VPN network stack.

Perhaps,Microsoft has had more issues because the hardware isn't as well integrated with their OS as it is on a Mac. Strict rules from Apple to their hardware suppliers may make a substantial difference here,especially at the installing stage of the new OS. Admitadly,I don't know the numbers of successful instals of Leopard to Vista though.
 
...the hardware isn't as well integrated with their OS as it is on a Mac...

Yes, the PC is an open system - Microsoft has to deal with an almost unlimited number of hardware combinations.

Apple's rigid closed system makes it much easier to test - except for the maxi-tower every Apple of a model looks the same. Even for the maxi-tower, the number of 3rd party addons is very small.
 
Yes, the PC is an open system - Microsoft has to deal with an almost unlimited number of hardware combinations.

Apple's rigid closed system makes it much easier to test - except for the maxi-tower every Apple of a model looks the same. Even for the maxi-tower, the number of 3rd party addons is very small.

steve jobs must like maxi-towers people on down then!
 
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