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When the iPhone was a new product, it sold 270,000 on its first day.

In 2002, Apple said it had only sold 600,000 total iPods, I think that includes all first and second generation iPods, so the first day sales could not have been anywhere near Apple Watch numbers.

2.3 million is more than the first iPod, iPhone and iPad opening days... combined... times two.
 
2.3 million people around the world can afford this watch. I don't find it appealing very much, but I will admit it has some innovations that I would like to see on Android / Tizen smartwatches
 
I never said 100% of iPhone owners need to buy a watch for it to be a success; but like the article says, one-tenth of iPhone users buying the watch means only the hardcore Apple fans have preordered. That doesn't make it a success.

Hardcore Apple fans are less than 1% of all iPhone owners. Not 10%.
 
amoled is Samsung's trademark for their OLED tech.. Why is this Ming Chi Kuo guy keep making appearances on tech sites? He isnt that accurate. Had some lucky guesses...
 
2.3 million is more than the first iPod, iPhone and iPad opening days... combined... times two.

Yeah, if it's really 2.3 Million in the first weekend - it's an amazing new product release that's for sure. I think the numbers are likely correct.

Was it 85% "sport" sales? That probably does make sense that the lowest entry price model has those percentages. After all, the sport model does everything the stainless model does, (even the Gold model haha).

Let's see - 1% of 2 million is 20,000 Gold "Edition" Watches sold - Wowsers - that sounds really high. If there is half an ounce of Gold in the Edition watch (guessing here), that's 10,000 Troy Oz of Gold - and that sounds like a lot of Gold! I wonder how that affects the global bullion market?

I think Apple could catch a bit of heat from some folks over the price tag of the Edition watch. I almost think they should announce that some percentage of the Edition watches revenues would go to Habitat for Humanity or some good charity like the "Project Red" - maybe they could make Project Gold. Just thinking out loud.
 
Great news it has been a success.
I am interested in one but will wait until is waterproof and can work independently from the iPhone so I can use swimming in the ocean and surfing.
So success will push R&D hard so hopefully in couple years Apple can achieve the above.

It already CAN work independently from the phone.
 
2.3 million people going to be very annoyed with that thing buzzing on their wrist

Yes, because they have no idea it does that :rolleyes:

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If you read the story you would've seen that less than one-tenth of iPhone owners preordered the watch. I wouldn't call it a success yet.

These numbers also don't account for the people who preordered multiple and will return some.

Spinnging already happening :D
 
2.3 million watches sold sight unseen!

That's the power of brand name and precedent, folks.
 
I am waiting for timmy to give us the numbers. But all indications are that this Apple watch thing is a winner. I thought a few million a year would be awesome, but 2.5 a month is just mind blowing. Given that people are not going to replace their watch every year (well maybe not given, but in my world...) they will plateau fairly quick i suspect.

Timmy isn't going to give us numbers. Apple said they are lumping the watch in with the 'other' category in their earnings so hard numbers are not going to be forthcoming for quite I while I would suspect.
 
Apple never said their goal was 50M. That was a report from digitimes. Regardless of their record on such matters, it's nothing more than a rumor.

http://www.cultofmac.com/296353/apple-hopes-sell-50-million-watches-2015/

They will fall well short of their "50 million watches sold" goal if sales continue at this rate. That doesn't make it a huge success.

Don't get me wrong, I have a 42mm SS and 42mm Sport preordered, I just don't think these sales numbers are that impressive considering what their initial goals were.
 
I'm more curious what the next generation will bring. If it has a front facing camera and slimmer form factor you know there will be some backlash. Most of us on MR know to hold off on first gen products, but I don't think people spending 850 USD on an "accessory" will be so excited for the next release. "Accessories" don't usually cost more than their source product and likewise don't get major updates...
 
If you read the story you would've seen that less than one-tenth of iPhone owners preordered the watch. I wouldn't call it a success yet.

These numbers also don't account for the people who preordered multiple and will return some.

If ANYTHING sells one-tenth of the iPhone it's a massive success. iPhone makes up 60%+ of the revenue of the world's most valuable company.

As far as people who ordered multiple, we heard this same nonsense around the iPhone 6 launch...

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Not by a long shot.

Go look up initial sales of iPods and iPhones on release weekend.

NEW Apple product was key there. No new product line has sold this many at launch let alone pre-orders.

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This is a loyalist product. There is no reason to expect that is will be able to sustain that level of sales going forward.

Considering the number of Android "loyalists" I run into on Apple forums, why haven't their watches pulled in those numbers?

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I never said 100% of iPhone owners need to buy a watch for it to be a success; but like the article says, one-tenth of iPhone users buying the watch means only the hardcore Apple fans have preordered. That doesn't make it a success.

If Apple's hardcore fans make up 1/10 of iPhone sales then holy freaking crap, this watch is going to be a smashing success as we upgrade them every single year.

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http://www.cultofmac.com/296353/apple-hopes-sell-50-million-watches-2015/

They will fall well short of their "50 million watches sold" goal if sales continue at this rate. That doesn't make it a huge success.

Don't get me wrong, I have a 42mm SS and 42mm Sport preordered, I just don't think these sales numbers are that impressive considering what their initial goals were.

That article says the sales goal is "rumored". 15 million of a product that people aren't sure they want/need and Android users have declared as simply useless is pretty damn good. That's more than the PS4 in its first year, for comparison.

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I think 1 in 10 is a pipe dream at this point. Perhaps a few years down the road, but not this year, or even next year. What we're seeing here is typical preorder surge.

Typical for what? I do love how everyone has these "industry terms" to throw around, half of them made up, and the other half only applicable to Apple's products because they are so successful.

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Failure is your mentality and ignorance. Those are units to be in stuck, no actual units sold to people.

If you ever understand the news, Apple and Microsoft always used to have a battle of units sold, one thing are units sold to distributors and another to costumers.

I saw the Apple Watch today and ended up with the same feeling... I do not need one nor saw something of value. If someone give it to me it will be collecting dust on in a drawer. And people were more interested in the iPhones at the store any way.

You will see that during Christmas sales will be very low. People would rather prefer and iPhone.

Ok, what completely makes everything you said pointless and useless is that the watch is sold out. Therefore every unit made is sold through to a customer. Stop using this poor excuse around unit sales, Samsung is far more guilty of it than Apple ever is because Apple sells out of their products before anyone even starts counting. And I would sure hope that people prefer the iPhone, you need one just to buy the watch. There is no way the watch numbers will ever surpass the phone numbers for that very reason. I think what is starting to be questioned is whether or not any one of you denying this success has any freaking idea what a success actually looks like.
 
Really, the benchmark for the iPhone should be the iPad. The iPad is just as useless to the majority of people as an Apple Watch.

The iPad sold around 330k on launch day and 1m by the first month. What percentage of iPhone users bought iPads? Let's assume that almost every iPad owner was already an iPhone owner. There were around 35m iPhones floating around by then, so that's a 1% penetration rate on launch day, and around 2.81% by the first month of availability.

Using that same proportion as a baseline, we can do some simple numbers. There are around 600 million iPhones today. Assuming a 1% penetration of that market, that's 6m apple watches on launch day, and 17m in the first month.

Of course those numbers are wrong since the 600m is sold, not in use. How many iPhone 5-6s are out there? Around 300m, which gives us 3m apple watches on launch day, 8.5m in the first month - if they can make that many.

Given how the preorders are going, they won't have retail stock until July.
 
amoled is Samsung's trademark for their OLED tech.. Why is this Ming Chi Kuo guy keep making appearances on tech sites? He isnt that accurate. Had some lucky guesses...

No, that would be "Super AMOLED" or SAMOLED, if you want to talk about accuracy...and AMOLED is not a Samsung technology. Why you even think Samsung has its own "tech" is beyond me, but you might want to start understanding that company a little better. As with virtually all OLED, AMOLED, Flexible OLED, Transparent OLED, etc - UDC and DuPont are responsible for its invention and its method of manufacturing. DuPont showed off all of this technology as far back as the year 2000, including windows that could tint themselves and be used as displays like Samsung showed off in 2013...and now we have a new generation of tech fans who have no idea that Samsung didn't invent it.
 
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I wasn't expecting these numbers, but I can't say I'm surprised. Apple is on fire.

And lol @ everyone trying to downplay the success of this. Please go back to playing in your sandbox.
 
I never said 100% of iPhone owners need to buy a watch for it to be a success; but like the article says, one-tenth of iPhone users buying the watch means only the hardcore Apple fans have preordered. That doesn't make it a success.

I agree. But I also see this as an add-on for iPhone users and not as a Smart Watch for everyone. The device is strongly depending with the use of an iPhone after all. The iPhone 6 was a hit but everyone could use an iPhone separate from everything else. For an Apple Watch you'll need an iPhone with to take advantage from all it's functionalities.

In other words, the Apple watch will, for now, never sell in terms of tens of millions of units.
 
I agree. But I also see this as an add-on for iPhone users and not as a Smart Watch for everyone. The device is strongly depending with the use of an iPhone after all. The iPhone 6 was a hit but everyone could use an iPhone separate from everything else. For an Apple Watch you'll need an iPhone with to take advantage from all it's functionalities.

In other words, the Apple watch will, for now, never sell in terms of tens of millions of units.

Huh! There will be about 425M compatible phones released by the end of ten year. If even 2.5% of Iphone users buy the watch by the end of this year, it will sell 10M units. Even the most pessimistic analysts' opinions are over 10M, with the most optimistic being 40M in the first year (about 30M in 2015). Average 15-20M.

It has already sold seemingly more in 5 days than the first Iphone did in its first 6 months (and also more than the Ipad which sold at its peak 26M per quarter)). So, care to revise your illogical conclusion.

Will you eat your word when it sells 10M by September?
 
No, that would be "Super AMOLED" or SAMOLED, if you want to talk about accuracy...and AMOLED is not a Samsung technology. Why you even think Samsung has its own "tech" is beyond me, but you might want to start understanding that company a little better. As with virtually all OLED, AMOLED, Flexible OLED, Transparent OLED, etc - UDC and DuPont are responsible for its invention and its method of manufacturing. DuPont showed off all of this technology as far back as the year 2000, including windows that could tint themselves and be used as displays like Samsung showed off in 2013...and now we have a new generation of tech fans who have no idea that Samsung didn't invent it.




Please do further research..

By 2004 Samsung, South Korea's largest conglomerate, was the world's largest OLED manufacturer, producing 40% of the OLED displays made in the world,[103] and as of 2010 has a 98% share of the global AMOLED market.[104] The company is leading the world of OLED industry, generating $100.2 million out of the total $475 million revenues in the global OLED market in 2006.[105] As of 2006, it held more than 600 American patents and more than 2800 international patents, making it the largest owner of AMOLED technology patents.

As you can read, it shows that Samsung owns largest share of AMOLED technology. AMOLED is generally synonymous to Samsung. I mean.. have you ever heard of Sony AMOLED or any other brand claiming their "own AMOLED"? Some people use OLED and AMOLED interchangeably. HTC and NOKIA use(d) Samsung AMOLED by the way.

And .. i never said anything about Samsung inventing anything, just for your info..

Heck.. Samsung even have their own marketing song for AMOLED http://youtu.be/E_iUu4iikVk
 
If you read the story you would've seen that less than one-tenth of iPhone owners preordered the watch. I wouldn't call it a success yet.

These numbers also don't account for the people who preordered multiple and will return some.

Sure, you'd call it success when Apple sold 100 million watches for their first product which is not exactly cheap (unlike Androids) within a week after pre-order open with no actual product on sales yet. Very realistic :rolleyes:

More than 1 million watches in a week for pre-order (only) is a success to me, and if that sales mostly from loyalist, so what, it doesn't make it fail. It's part of their consumer confident of the brand quality. Not many company can boast that.
 
What if U2 rocked them live on stage, prebuilt into a cod piece.
What if.. Zooropia:eek:
Think about it…
 
Really, the benchmark for the iPhone should be the iPad. The iPad is just as useless to the majority of people as an Apple Watch.

The iPad sold around 330k on launch day and 1m by the first month. What percentage of iPhone users bought iPads? Let's assume that almost every iPad owner was already an iPhone owner. There were around 35m iPhones floating around by then, so that's a 1% penetration rate on launch day, and around 2.81% by the first month of availability.

Using that same proportion as a baseline, we can do some simple numbers. There are around 600 million iPhones today. Assuming a 1% penetration of that market, that's 6m apple watches on launch day, and 17m in the first month.

Of course those numbers are wrong since the 600m is sold, not in use. How many iPhone 5-6s are out there? Around 300m, which gives us 3m apple watches on launch day, 8.5m in the first month - if they can make that many.

Given how the preorders are going, they won't have retail stock until July.

There were about 420M Apple phones produced since September 2013 up to the launch of the watch. They will produce another 150M by the end of the year. Not all of the first 420M phones are compatible and in circulation (a portion is retired, broken, not compatible 4S and 4). The amount of compatible active phones right now is probably no more than 320M. If 1% of them pre-order you get 3M world wide preorders in first days. That seems to be about what happened. If sales then continued briskly like the Ipad, they would have a massive hit on their hand.

I looked at the numbers and there were 54M Iphones sold in April 2010 when the Ipad launched. That means it sold to 0.55% in pre-order on the first day.

The same numbers used for the watch would means that it would have beat it even proportionally if it sells to more than 1.65M in the first day. But, even that's a bit unfair since you actually could buy the Ipad even if you didn't own an Iphone (and many people did just that).

By all measures, absolute, or relative, the watch is a success.
 
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2.3 million people around the world can afford this watch. I don't find it appealing very much, but I will admit it has some innovations that I would like to see on Android / Tizen smartwatches

Like what?? Bigger screen?? 84mm screen??
 
http://www.cultofmac.com/296353/apple-hopes-sell-50-million-watches-2015/

They will fall well short of their "50 million watches sold" goal if sales continue at this rate. That doesn't make it a huge success.

Don't get me wrong, I have a 42mm SS and 42mm Sport preordered, I just don't think these sales numbers are that impressive considering what their initial goals were.

You are so wrong, I don't even know why I'm bothering to reply. First of all, the article you linked to cites Digitimes as a source. Um, Digitimes has a horrible track record. I don't recall Apple ever publicly announcing a sales goal for Watch. I imagine their sales goal is aligned closely with their projected production schedule. I'd be surprised if they're even able to manufacture 50 million units, let alone sell them. I imagine the manufacturing behind Watch is probably one of their most complex yet, with all the new materials being used, intricately machined bracelets and enclosures, dozens of configurations, and all the new technology with insane miniaturization. They are probably more concerned with production targets at this point, not sales targets.

Secondly, define success. When majority of iPhone owners have one? That's ridiculous. The iPod was considered a wildly successful product, financially and culturally. It took YEARS before reaching million+ sales annually. The Walkman had an even slower adoption, and that was also an iconic cultural phenomenon. Watch did several times that, JUST in opening preorders. I would call that a big success. Dismissing it as just a fluke or only ordered by Apple nerds is laughable. People said the same thing about the iPod. And the iPhone. And the iPad. Turns out they were wrong every time.
 
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