Yup and apple would get backlash like crazy. People went nuts when apple ditched the 30pin that was TEN years old.
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Ming-Chi Kuo Says All 2017 iPhones Will Have Lightning Connectors With USB-C Fast Charging
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What the article doesn't report is that the iPad Pro 12.9" model already supports fast charging, though I don't know if it's the same as what's being mentioned here. I bought Apple's Lightning to USB C cable and Macbook 29 watt charger, and my iPad charges much faster. My iPhone 7+ also charges much faster, though not at fast charge speeds.
But also, the 12.9" Pro supports the 5Gb/s data speeds on other devices that also support it. The limitation is the Apple SoC, which doesn't yet support USB 3.1 10Gb/s speeds. Neither does the M series of Intel chips in the Macbook, which is why that has USB C but only USB 3 speeds.
I wonder if the A10 supports faster 10Gb/s speeds, as it could support the 5Gb/s speed since the A9X does. I'm supposing all A11 chips support at least 5Gb/s.
But also, the 12.9" Pro supports the 5Gb/s data speeds on other devices that also support it. The limitation is the Apple SoC, which doesn't yet support USB 3.1 10Gb/s speeds. Neither does the M series of Intel chips in the Macbook, which is why that has USB C but only USB 3 speeds.
I wonder if the A10 supports faster 10Gb/s speeds, as it could support the 5Gb/s speed since the A9X does. I'm supposing all A11 chips support at least 5Gb/s.
There is not a USB-C adapter in the iPhone 7 which shipped around the same time the new USB-C only MBPs were released. The MB also only has USB-C. Apple's position (I disagree) is that the cable is not essential to activating, backing up, or updating an iPhone because of iCloud. It's as-if iCloud is the standard (even though 5GB is not nearly adequate) and cables are the option. Since they are the option no need to supply an adapter.
the prices for more storage is pretty cheap nowadays. I pay only $3 a month for 200gb.
That's great. I pay $0 a month tethering to my Mac. Also iCloud is slow and not always reliable. Pass. But if it's so cheap then why can't Apple supply customers with more than a joke of 5GB. I mean they are set to ask a rumored $1K for the next flagship iPhone. Are you telling me they can't chip in another 95GB? Or a .50 USB-C adapter?
Right?! I'm also glad Apple is immune to third party manufacturing defects. It's not like it happened before.
The USB-C charging cable I have for my HTC-10 has been great. It's sturdy and slots in very securely to my phone and charges quickly and stays cool.
I hope Apple moving to USB-C will mean they make the cables sturdier. I am so very gentle and careful with my chargers but they still fray or swell up and become dangerous to use at an inexcusable rate. Apple's quest to always keep everything so thin and light (and flimsy) is starting to grate on me.
I have two phones and several headphones and cameras that use micro USB charging, one phone that uses USB-C and two that use lightning. It's not been onerous to manage so many different chargers so I'm personally fine with Apple making the switch.
People wondering the charging cube will be updated aren't thinking about how the world will look in September. All the iMacs will be updated to have mainly if not exclusively USB-C ports. The iPhone will be a high end device. I'm really pretty confident that the charging cube will use a USB-C port. I suspect the iPads coming out this Spring will have USB-C charging cubes as well. Nice way to get a test run before the money maker iPhone makes changes. Also it "seeds" the environment with more USB-C ports which will make charging your iPhone a bit easier.
I'm confident Lightning isn't going away until wireless charging becomes the standard. Lightning is just a really good charging solution. This is especially if it can handle quick charge.
I'm confident Lightning isn't going away until wireless charging becomes the standard. Lightning is just a really good charging solution. This is especially if it can handle quick charge.
I welcome USB-C,
but what about all those lightning cables? What a fail of a connector, 4 year run vs 30-pin for what felt like eternity
hopefully USB-C is for eternity,
but what about all those lightning cables? What a fail of a connector, 4 year run vs 30-pin for what felt like eternity
hopefully USB-C is for eternity,
That's probably why they waited for the USB-C power delivery standard rather than adopting a proprietary solution such as Quick Charge 3.0. Apple's own 12W (2.4A 5W) is a proprietary standard, and the 29W MacBook charger is grandfathered into USB-C (as it predates the standard), but since then Apple has been staying more compliant with the standards.
If you buy extra cables, pick a color for lightning and pick a color for USB. My lightning cables are white and my USB cables are black. So I can tell at a glance which is which. Obviously you (like me) have tons of devices and they all come with a cable. So we are both swimming in cables. If they don't match my color scheme, I recycle it.
According to the article, Lightning will stay. It's just that the other end will be USB-C and it will deliver faster power, just as it does with the 12.9" iPad Pro.
Lightning will have been around for 5 years by the time the iPhone 8 comes out vs 10 for the 30-pin when it was replaced.
Did you read the first post correctly? Apple is not changing the port, they are most likely changing the end of the cable.
And apple really had no choice but to create a new port in the iPhone 5. There was no USB-C at the time and mini usb sucks.
Oops, edited...you do make good points but I agree with Chupa Chupa we still need wire charging and syncing as an option for now. I do iCloud backups update my apps on wifi usually but still consider the encrypted Mac backups to be my main backup.
Am I the only person thinking that Apple will be releasing an iPhone Pro model? This is in keeping with the Mac, MacBooks, iPads evolution and branding.
I think we will see:
iPhone 7SE (stretching it here, probably not likely?)
4 inch (buh bye SE)
iPhone 7s
4.7
iPhone 7s Plus
5.5
All with Faster processors, marginally better hardware, same body style ( except SE adopting new form)
iPhone Pro
OLED
4.7 (5.15?)
Edge to edge
Glass body
Integrated Touch ID
NO Wireless charging
iPhone Pro Plus
5.8
OLED
Edge to edge
Glass body
Added USB-C port
AR ready with 3D sensing dual cameras
NO Wireless charging
iPad will adopt the same evolution eventually NOT Before. I think there is going to be big disappointment later in March with the iPad Pro updates. I think they will be smaller upgrades than hoped for.
I think we will see:
iPhone 7SE (stretching it here, probably not likely?)
4 inch (buh bye SE)
iPhone 7s
4.7
iPhone 7s Plus
5.5
All with Faster processors, marginally better hardware, same body style ( except SE adopting new form)
iPhone Pro
OLED
4.7 (5.15?)
Edge to edge
Glass body
Integrated Touch ID
NO Wireless charging
iPhone Pro Plus
5.8
OLED
Edge to edge
Glass body
Added USB-C port
AR ready with 3D sensing dual cameras
NO Wireless charging
iPad will adopt the same evolution eventually NOT Before. I think there is going to be big disappointment later in March with the iPad Pro updates. I think they will be smaller upgrades than hoped for.
If Apple can make a 5.8" iPhone with no bezel that is roughly the size of the iPhone 7, then why can't they make a 5" iPhone with no bezel that is roughly the size of an iPhone SE? And if that is in the works say next year, why not this year?
I don't understand the need to give us an iPhone 7S/7S Plus other than pricing in the lineup. Meaning the 5.8" OLED iPhone will hit an entry price point so high that they have to give us a 'new' iPhone's that ranges in price from $649-$969.
I don't understand the need to give us an iPhone 7S/7S Plus other than pricing in the lineup. Meaning the 5.8" OLED iPhone will hit an entry price point so high that they have to give us a 'new' iPhone's that ranges in price from $649-$969.
Ok, this is a plausible rumor that actually makes sense.
Getting rid of the Lightning port would have been singlehandedly the worst decision they could have made. However, the audio port needed to go, let's be honest (for all you iOS haters out there).
Phil Schiller made a point on stage during the iPhone 7 announcement that there are millions of Lightning connected accessories in the world. Why would Apple give that up? I'm all for USB-C but as the end connection to my computer or power source, but NOT on iOS devices.
Anyone heard of Benson Leung? He is an engineer at Google who reviews USB-C cables on Amazon and other sites. There are a number of reviews from him where he slams the manufacturer for producing a poor product that is either a fire hazard or shorts out the device because of overload. USB-C needs to be better regulated before it is widely adopted.
Apple has the strictest requirements for cable quality. Can you imagine people going to an Apple store with their iPhone complaining how a USB-C cable shorted their device? Yeah I can't either. That is why Apple will continue to use Lightning for their most popular product.
The Lightning port is here to stay for a long time. USB-A isn't.
Getting rid of the Lightning port would have been singlehandedly the worst decision they could have made. However, the audio port needed to go, let's be honest (for all you iOS haters out there).
Phil Schiller made a point on stage during the iPhone 7 announcement that there are millions of Lightning connected accessories in the world. Why would Apple give that up? I'm all for USB-C but as the end connection to my computer or power source, but NOT on iOS devices.
Anyone heard of Benson Leung? He is an engineer at Google who reviews USB-C cables on Amazon and other sites. There are a number of reviews from him where he slams the manufacturer for producing a poor product that is either a fire hazard or shorts out the device because of overload. USB-C needs to be better regulated before it is widely adopted.
Apple has the strictest requirements for cable quality. Can you imagine people going to an Apple store with their iPhone complaining how a USB-C cable shorted their device? Yeah I can't either. That is why Apple will continue to use Lightning for their most popular product.
The Lightning port is here to stay for a long time. USB-A isn't.
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Good, I prefer the Lightning connector anyway. USB-C is fine, but I don't want there to be a breakable piece in the device. Everything breakable should be on the cable itself. With Lightning, there's nothing in the device but the channel itself (and power/signal pins of course). With USB-C, there's a centered piece that could be broken. It's not likely to happen, but it's still a possibility.
Broken pin inside USB-C female end: expensive repair or device replacement.
Broken Lightning cable: replace cable.
Say what you want about Apple and their connectors, but they really did it right with Lightning. It's strong, reversible, and safe. The only thing that could be improved is that it's proprietary. If they licensed the connector and everyone else used it for their connections, it would be amazing.
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Broken pin inside USB-C female end: expensive repair or device replacement.
Broken Lightning cable: replace cable.
Say what you want about Apple and their connectors, but they really did it right with Lightning. It's strong, reversible, and safe. The only thing that could be improved is that it's proprietary. If they licensed the connector and everyone else used it for their connections, it would be amazing.
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Until the next thing comes along? You make it sound like USB-C is the last cable anyone will ever need.
Why would they? People paying for iCloud storage upgrades generates a revenue stream for them that is offsetting the declining revenue streams from people waiting longer to upgrade their hardware.
To play Devil's Advocate...
Edge to edge OLED w/ the same new "TouchBar" tech introduced in late 2016 MBPs would certainly be a new & interesting implementation. Bigger, 2-cell battery WITHOUT making the phone thicker (courtesy of logic board stacking) is a fantastic new idea, supporting fast charging without the need to change to a new charger type is also a first, and quite handy.
You have a point w/ the wireless charging, if it turns out to be inductive- if it is a ranged charge; that's radically new as well.
