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What OLED issues are you expecting? Samsung has been making them for years, so curious what issues you are expecting in the X?

How about the issue that at last report 25% of the OLED screens failed due the the notch needing to be cut out of them. This is an improvement from the apparent 50% at the start of manufacture, but it's still an issue which has lead to higher screen costs passed on to the consumer & gave us a $1000+ iPhone.
 
So in other words, let the guinea pigs deal with the mess that’s going to be the iPhone X and wait for the iPhone 11 next year
I don't think that's the message here.

He's saying next year's models will use the same tech, so they'll be used to producing them at a faster rate. It's nothing to do with testing on buyers of the X. It seems like you're wishing ill-will on X buyers.

While I'm at it I may as well give my prediction for next years's models.
iPhone 8\8+ will be replaced with OLED screen versions of the same size as the current 8\8+! Meanwhile, iPhone X (anniversary model) will not be reproduced at this size again ...EVER. So you go ahead and miss out. :p
 
Apple won't "repeat the mistake"...
Just like GT Advance Sapphire.

That thing didn't even get to a full finished production volume, so not sure what on earth your alluding too exactly.

If you had heard that they invested 1B on face ID and not released it, well that would had been similar to GT advance.
 
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Exactly! Which could prove his analysis was correct. If customers are waiting 5-6 weeks now (which is mid-December), holding off on ordering online hoping to get one on launch day in-store and don’t. They could possibly go home and order one online, which would cause shipping numbers to slip further, which is further exacerbated by Christmas/holiday sales.

It’s perfectly feasible to see shipping estimates and availability depressed even more than they are now, well into first quarter of 2018.

Everyone criticizing this guy with zero evidence might want to start swallowing their words. He might just be spot on.

Right.... The guy who changed ideas 5 times BEFORE LAUNCH in one month, and now, changes completely, a few days later is "right". Not to mention the dozens of corrections over the whole year that put all together make no sense at all for a so called "connected" (sic) guy.
Read up his actual justifications (in the reports) for his every changing so called "analysis", it's all Apple doing this, Apple doing that when anyone in management, engineering, manufacturing or logistics knows that's not how any of these things can go down at all in a company of this size and a product launch of this size.
He profiting from the utter ignorance of his audience the "fog of war", to pull fast ones.

Unless he's got access to Cook (the only way he could know half the things he claims to "know"), his slick flow of words are mere rumors wrapped up in a heap of self-aggrandizing PR.
 
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I'm certain Ming is right. Since Apple just bought InVisage whose technology is much like the camera on the iPhone X but dramatically better and will be handled in house instead of 4 outside contractors we can all count on a remarkable camera improvement in the 2018 model.




While the iPhone X has reportedly faced production issues related to the TrueDepth camera, resulting in shipment delays, respected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said supply of components for the facial recognition system is now stable.

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In a research note with KGI Securities, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo added that Apple won't "repeat the mistake" of delayed production with next year's iPhone models, which he predicts will "arrive on time" under "stable supply."Kuo expects new iPhone models launching in the second half of 2018 to adopt the same wafer level optics for the TrueDepth system's dot projector, and the same 4P lens for the infrared camera, as the iPhone X.

iPhone X pre-orders began on Friday at 12:01 a.m. Pacific Time, and shipping estimates have remained at 5-6 weeks since a few hours after that time.

Article Link: Ming-Chi Kuo Says iPhone X's TrueDepth Production Issues Stabilizing, Won't Affect Next Year's Models
 
Kuo says:

"Apple won't repeat the mistake of supply disruption & delayed production as seen with iPhone X."

Did Apple make a mistake? What was the mistake?

I'm a little saddened by the amount of anger people seem to feel toward others here who disagree with them about whether Kuo's earlier forecast (of significant shortages lasting into 2018) was fair or b.s. Maybe we should talk about something less controversial instead, like Donald Trump.

He mad many many many affirmations about shortage with so called internal Apple "sources", he's a ******** artists plan and simple (just like ... Well, you know that other guy).
 
Yep Apple are going to upset a lot of people because more than likely Apple will release the XI in September and the guys on Apples upgrade programme will have to wait until November unless they sell their phones and pay the contract off.

Good. So much competition eliminated for 2018. Unless November is the new upgrade cycle for flagships.
 
Now this is why I read Macrumors. Never would I have dreamed it possible that Apple's suppliers would master the manufacturing process of the Face ID module on this year's iPhones in time to avoid bottlenecking the supply of next year's models.

Absolutely mind blowing.
 
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in reality it was no worse than past iPhone launches.
Haven't past iPhone pre-orders normally slipped 2-3 weeks on launch night, not 5-6 weeks?

Remember earlier this summer when he claimed that Apple was still deciding on whether to use a fingerprint sensor vs. facial recognition in the X?
I remember that from very early summer/late spring. You and I have no clue whether or not that was true. Of course Apple won't say that in marketing.

supply was not constrained well into 2018.
How could you possibly know that when we're not even into 2018 yet? 'Constrained into 2018' means if you try to buy an iPhone in January 2018, it won't ship immediately. (Which is highly unusual for January.) If he's wrong about that, fine, but there's no way to know yet.

People saying Kuo is wrong without reading the details of his reports remind me of those people who always claim "weather forecasters never get it right."
 
So how does everyone who’s holding out on next years iteration to iPhone X feel? It is highly likely the same Face ID camera system will be used because it’s more than sufficient. So much for waiting for the new and improved version.

All this whining about no I won’t buy version 1 products from Apple, let the beta testers test it out, one guy in another post even said he waits at least 8 months to see if the technology is proven, blah blah blah, you guys must feel silly now.

I guess you’ll hold out for iteration 3 the year after.
 
I can tell you exactly what part and manufacture is causing the delay and which aren't.
Also the current status of the delayed part.
Lots of other industry info.

Show me the money.
 
I am assuming there will be certain issues with the oled screen being supplied to Apple. I hope I am wrong.

Why would there be issues with the screen? Samsung has been making OLED screens for years, and now they’re making them for Apple with a curve at one end.
 
Too many people are speculating about what will happen a year from now. I think we need a lot more time. By April we may have a better picture on production and what the shipments were in this quarter. Let's wait and see how this plays out before speculating on next year.
 
Can you actually read, or..?

These replies are so ridiculous and predictable. Kuo is talking about next year’s release. The XI or whatever it will be called. He’s saying they’ll ship on time next year. The supply chain issues are being solved and next year shipping won’t be pushed back 2 months, as it was this year.

Indeed it’s amazing how silly some of these replies are. People really cannot read and comprehend. For the most part Kuo has been accurate with his statements.
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But that's completely false. No one received a ship date into 2018. From what I've seen all orders are due to be delivery in December at the latest. Supply is no worse than it was for previous launches. It was harder to get the Jet Black iPhone's last year than it is to get the X this year. No matter what way you look at it, he was way off the mark.

You guys aren’t reading and understanding. Pay attention to the dates and phones he’s referring to.
 
Haven't past iPhone pre-orders normally slipped 2-3 weeks on launch night, not 5-6 weeks?


I remember that from very early summer/late spring. You and I have no clue whether or not that was true. Of course Apple won't say that in marketing.


How could you possibly know that when we're not even into 2018 yet? 'Constrained into 2018' means if you try to buy an iPhone in January 2018, it won't ship immediately. (Which is highly unusual for January.) If he's wrong about that, fine, but there's no way to know yet.

People saying Kuo is wrong without reading the details of his reports remind me of those people who always claim "weather forecasters never get it right."

I think I recall iPhone 6 pre-orders slipping to 4 weeks pretty quickly, but I could be wrong.
 
Prior to pre-order day: Apple is producing very few of the iPhone X and all of you won't get it until 2018.

After pre-order day, Apple already told everyone that the stock will be available in 5-6 weeks: Apple has now magically solved all problems and the supply will be plenty after mid November.
 
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I don't know why people 100% believe him anyway. The iPhone X delivery windows are nowhere near as bad as he said they would be.
That's probably because the iPhone X sales are nowhere near as good as they thought they would be.
 
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