What OLED issues are you expecting? Samsung has been making them for years, so curious what issues you are expecting in the X?
I don't think that's the message here.So in other words, let the guinea pigs deal with the mess that’s going to be the iPhone X and wait for the iPhone 11 next year
Apple won't "repeat the mistake"...
Just like GT Advance Sapphire.
Exactly! Which could prove his analysis was correct. If customers are waiting 5-6 weeks now (which is mid-December), holding off on ordering online hoping to get one on launch day in-store and don’t. They could possibly go home and order one online, which would cause shipping numbers to slip further, which is further exacerbated by Christmas/holiday sales.
It’s perfectly feasible to see shipping estimates and availability depressed even more than they are now, well into first quarter of 2018.
Everyone criticizing this guy with zero evidence might want to start swallowing their words. He might just be spot on.
While the iPhone X has reportedly faced production issues related to the TrueDepth camera, resulting in shipment delays, respected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said supply of components for the facial recognition system is now stable.
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In a research note with KGI Securities, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo added that Apple won't "repeat the mistake" of delayed production with next year's iPhone models, which he predicts will "arrive on time" under "stable supply."Kuo expects new iPhone models launching in the second half of 2018 to adopt the same wafer level optics for the TrueDepth system's dot projector, and the same 4P lens for the infrared camera, as the iPhone X.
iPhone X pre-orders began on Friday at 12:01 a.m. Pacific Time, and shipping estimates have remained at 5-6 weeks since a few hours after that time.
Article Link: Ming-Chi Kuo Says iPhone X's TrueDepth Production Issues Stabilizing, Won't Affect Next Year's Models
Kuo says:
"Apple won't repeat the mistake of supply disruption & delayed production as seen with iPhone X."
Did Apple make a mistake? What was the mistake?
I'm a little saddened by the amount of anger people seem to feel toward others here who disagree with them about whether Kuo's earlier forecast (of significant shortages lasting into 2018) was fair or b.s. Maybe we should talk about something less controversial instead, like Donald Trump.
Yep Apple are going to upset a lot of people because more than likely Apple will release the XI in September and the guys on Apples upgrade programme will have to wait until November unless they sell their phones and pay the contract off.
Haven't past iPhone pre-orders normally slipped 2-3 weeks on launch night, not 5-6 weeks?in reality it was no worse than past iPhone launches.
I remember that from very early summer/late spring. You and I have no clue whether or not that was true. Of course Apple won't say that in marketing.Remember earlier this summer when he claimed that Apple was still deciding on whether to use a fingerprint sensor vs. facial recognition in the X?
How could you possibly know that when we're not even into 2018 yet? 'Constrained into 2018' means if you try to buy an iPhone in January 2018, it won't ship immediately. (Which is highly unusual for January.) If he's wrong about that, fine, but there's no way to know yet.supply was not constrained well into 2018.
Which will dissipate quickly if there are issues.Do I detect a hint of envy in your post![]()
I am assuming there will be certain issues with the oled screen being supplied to Apple. I hope I am wrong.
Can you actually read, or..?
These replies are so ridiculous and predictable. Kuo is talking about next year’s release. The XI or whatever it will be called. He’s saying they’ll ship on time next year. The supply chain issues are being solved and next year shipping won’t be pushed back 2 months, as it was this year.
But that's completely false. No one received a ship date into 2018. From what I've seen all orders are due to be delivery in December at the latest. Supply is no worse than it was for previous launches. It was harder to get the Jet Black iPhone's last year than it is to get the X this year. No matter what way you look at it, he was way off the mark.
Haven't past iPhone pre-orders normally slipped 2-3 weeks on launch night, not 5-6 weeks?
I remember that from very early summer/late spring. You and I have no clue whether or not that was true. Of course Apple won't say that in marketing.
How could you possibly know that when we're not even into 2018 yet? 'Constrained into 2018' means if you try to buy an iPhone in January 2018, it won't ship immediately. (Which is highly unusual for January.) If he's wrong about that, fine, but there's no way to know yet.
People saying Kuo is wrong without reading the details of his reports remind me of those people who always claim "weather forecasters never get it right."
That's probably because the iPhone X sales are nowhere near as good as they thought they would be.I don't know why people 100% believe him anyway. The iPhone X delivery windows are nowhere near as bad as he said they would be.
I don't know why people 100% believe him anyway. The iPhone X delivery windows are nowhere near as bad as he said they would be.
You can say this every year.So in other words, let the guinea pigs deal with the mess that’s going to be the iPhone X and wait for the iPhone 11 next year