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Mini-LED Display Production Improving for Redesigned MacBook Pro Models Later This Year

buckwheet said:
Haha... yeah, the MR response to the iMacs was embarrassing... I just had to ignore it. I'm not in love with the redesign, but I think I get what they're going for... and I do think they'll be releasing an iMac Pro to smooth out the product line/transition. If not, then I'm curious what will happen for the lower-level "pro" desktop situation. The Mac Pro is far too expensive for indy/non-corporate pro creators.

EDIT: Unless, of course, the idea is that they'll use Mac Minis, but that doesn't quite seem like a solution, to me (though I'm not exactly sure why, I suppose).
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An interesting question is what does it mean to be a "pro" machine when using an SoC design? Typically it means expandability, but with everything including RAM being built directly onto the chip then expandability options are limited to non-existent. (I'd imagine this is the biggest challenge Apple will face in adapting the M series to the true Mac Pro). I'm going to venture a guess that while the M1X/M2 will have a higher RAM limit for more demanding users that the replacement for the 27" iMac will not have upgradeable memory.
 
bradman83 said:
An interesting question is what does it mean to be a "pro" machine when using an SoC design? Typically it means expandability, but with everything including RAM being built directly onto the chip then expandability options are limited to non-existent. (I'd imagine this is the biggest challenge Apple will face in adapting the M series to the true Mac Pro). I'm going to venture a guess that while the M1X/M2 will have a higher RAM limit for more demanding users that the replacement for the 27" iMac will not have upgradeable memory.
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It won't. The architecture won't allow it. Pro now simply means more powerful, suitable for pro works.
 
This has recall program on it all over the place in few years...

The next chip, possibly featuring M1X or M2 branding, can be expected to feature significantly faster performance and greatly improved energy efficiency.
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This is stretching it a little bit. M1 already showed huge energy effeciency, I doubt the faster M chips will be also EVEN MORE energy effecient. My understanding is that faster computers means more power drain not less.
 
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People hoping on an MX chip MBP release I would say to take easy. Cook said it will take 2 years for transition, maybe we see MBP by end of the year but not mid this year.

If so , then the whole year and a half will be just Mac Pro that will not be having an MX chip. I doubt it.
 
bradman83 said:
An interesting question is what does it mean to be a "pro" machine when using an SoC design? Typically it means expandability, but with everything including RAM being built directly onto the chip then expandability options are limited to non-existent.
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It means the same as it has always meant: flexibility. There are no typical "pro" users, only niches of peole who need something more than a consumer device can offer. And the "something more" is always different from the other niches.

Back in the day, Apple imagined a modular Mac Pro. They could not deliver it, so they fell back to the traditional tower case design. Maybe this time it's different, and the new Mac Pro will consist of one or more independent modules that communicate over a custom high-speed interconnect, with separate CPU/GPU cores, RAM, and SSD in each module.
 
Man, I am so excited about these laptops! I don't understand why someone would buy the new 12.9-inch iPad Pro with this display tech, when you can instead pay a little more $$ and get a full-featured OS with this new display tech instead!
 
MacBH928 said:
People hoping on an MX chip MBP release I would say to take easy. Cook said it will take 2 years for transition, maybe we see MBP by end of the year but not mid this year.

If so , then the whole year and a half will be just Mac Pro that will not be having an MX chip. I doubt it.
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Don’t forget iMac Pro, i suspect on late fall
 
GuruZac said:
To be honest, Apple has been delivering lately on the hardware side with some features we all hoped for but maybe didn’t expect so I wouldn‘t be surprised to see FaceID on the 14/16 MacBook Pros and TouchID to remain on the MacBook Air and 13” MacBook Pro. Although the only constraint might be the thinness of the display and fitting the FaceID module.
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I’d rather have touch-id - as that will work with an external keyboard.
With Face-Id I wouldn’t hold my breath for external monitor support.
 
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MacBH928 said:
People hoping on an MX chip MBP release I would say to take easy. Cook said it will take 2 years for transition, maybe we see MBP by end of the year but not mid this year.

If so , then the whole year and a half will be just Mac Pro that will not be having an MX chip. I doubt it.
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They said a two year transition to x86 and did it in a year and a half, so a precedent has been set.
Plus and I think at least for a while we can bank on this, we're already seeing the same chip with variants because Apple is the only customer of it's own chip, i.e. I think we will see the 16" macbook Pro and regular 27" iMac next and last in line the iMac Pro and Mac Pro, that theoretically could be much much farther down the line, but I think they just did all they can do with the current chip, so the next one will IMO be the 2nd tier products.

Plus possible other products of course, the rumored 14", a more powerful Mac Mini etc.
 
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spymousetruck said:
I hope it doesn’t. Where does the camera go? And I doubt if the screen is going to be rounded. But yes. These renders (when they’re actually good) raise expectations and the real thing can turn out to be a let down, such as the M1 iMac.
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I ordered the iMac but even I was a little surprised with how large the chin is. It’s still a great computer regardless and I’m no pro user so the performance of the M1 is great (I opted for 16GB of RAM as well), the display is amazing, the sound should be really nice, and the 1080p camera a nice upgrade. All in all, I’m very happy with what Apple did with the iMac.
 
GuruZac said:
Was in a similar boat, but decided the iMac would be less expensive upfront, give me all the same benefits I need from a computer, and I still have my 12.9 2018 iPad Pro/Magic Keyboard setup for portability and note taking for school. I literally keep my 2017 MacBook Pro on my desk at home and virtually never take it with me on campus or out.
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I would be tempted too. But I need to have an external monitor for my work laptop so I have that hooked to both that and my 2011 MBP (monitor has multiple video inputs, I use a USB switcher for the keyboard/mouse). I don't think I can hook another computer to the iMac's monitor, correct?
 
The Touch Bar has been a huge value add for me. Change is good, in my view. Reversal not so much. I can't believe Cook's big idea is to resurrect the 2006 MacBook. The next idea? Subtract MagSafe. Add Touch Bar. Maybe squared corners for good measure.
 
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I wonder if Apple really is going to walk away from the Touch Bar? Is there space to have a function row plus the Touch Bar? I’ve never used a Touch Bar MacBook Pro so can’t comment on whether or not I like it.
 
Mr.PT said:
Don’t forget iMac Pro, i suspect on late fall
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I dont think we will see an iMac Pro it was made for a temporary period unless they start calling the higher end iMacs "iMac Pro" . Plus it will be confusing naming between iMac Pro and Mac Pro
 
GuruZac said:
I wonder if Apple really is going to walk away from the Touch Bar? Is there space to have a function row plus the Touch Bar? I’ve never used a Touch Bar MacBook Pro so can’t comment on whether or not I like it.
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I can see apple allowing Touch Bar’s as a bto option.
 
jjahshik32 said:
I can see apple allowing Touch Bar’s as a bto option.
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This is something that makes sense from a consumer's perspective but is a complete non-starter from a hardware or software engineers view. Apple already hates that they have to offer BTO, having two top-case options for the same computer is a non-starter.
 
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bradman83 said:
An interesting question is what does it mean to be a "pro" machine when using an SoC design? Typically it means expandability, but with everything including RAM being built directly onto the chip then expandability options are limited to non-existent. (I'd imagine this is the biggest challenge Apple will face in adapting the M series to the true Mac Pro). I'm going to venture a guess that while the M1X/M2 will have a higher RAM limit for more demanding users that the replacement for the 27" iMac will not have upgradeable memory.
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For sure. I think it would be a huge mistake not to release at least a 32GB option. I know my next machine will ideally be 32GB/2TB (yeah, $$$). I will still buy at 16GB, but I have hit the limit on my current MacBook Pro 16" several times (using large sample libraries), so I'd love to (finally) lose that limitation—i.e., without having to move all my work to the desktop, that is.
 
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