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I very apprehensive about mini-LED (ie local dimming backlights), it's fine when you're watching a movie, but is rubbish when there's too much contrast between dimming zones, like white text on a black background or regular solid shapes as it has to compromise between lighting the text/shape and keeping the black integrity of what surrounds it and normally results in uneven lighting as the backlights don't know what is important colour against black (text) on the screen and what isn't important colour against black. FALDs for example are attrocious at star fields.

More dimming zones helps, but I think I'd much rather prefer a uniformly lit screen (even if the black aren't "true" blacks) rather than relying on the computer to guess.

Of course I'll wait for reviews and to see how Apple implements it, but Micro not mini LED is the holy grail we want.
 
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Intel has been making processors a very long time. not Apple

Does that really make any difference as long as their processors work well?
The iPhone processors seem to be blowing apart other mobile brands. If they do that with their desktop processors (which they seem to be doing with this laptop release) then good on them, and good for us Mac users too.
 
5nm+ in q4.

in time for iPhone 13.

probably same design rules as 5nm, just a small process shrink. so maybe we see a

5nm+ is not a shrink. When TSMC introduces new processes like 5nm they'd don't make many other improvements, it makes it simple and less error prone. Their "+" generations are a those small tweaks and improvements to the existing process they have been holding back until it was mature.

That was Intel's mistake with 10nm. They introduced a smaller process AND threw in all the other improvements they had been working on at the same time and it all became horribly complicated.
 
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Everytime I plan on investing a good chunk of cash into an Apple product (Macbook Pro M1) there is always an article that tells me it's going to be superceded in a big way....

Puts wallet away.
 
Every independent tests have validated that the 12 Pro Max screen is the best screen ever. They went as far as qualifying it as indistinguishable from perfect.
There must be an issue with your wife 12 mini, it does happen. Go to the Apple Store and get it swapped.
Perfect!? Off axis colour shift with the smallest of tilt, overly warm yellow/orange colour, horrible PWM. LCD has been perfected over the last 10 years but we have to deal with batch after batch of inconsistent OLED displays because that's what manafactuers want to push.

OLED tvs are great but I 100% prefer LCD in handheld tech.
 
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Really? Wait until we see the sales figures on just M1 Macs sold

I hope intel comes out with a RAW power chip that blows the M1 out of the water.

I don't like the way people are bashing Intel. Intel has been making processors a very long time. not Apple

It's Like Steve Jobs is alive again and the Hate and bashing of Intel processors has started all over again.
no, intel wont come back on the ship. its over. and messy inplemented discrete gpus like in the mbp pro are also over since they burn power in idle like a fire.
 
So the current prices for the 16" MBP start at $2399, but $3399 for 32GB, ITB SSD and no graphics upgrade might be a more 'typical' purchase.

Question 1: Will there be more than one AS MBP 16" model? And if not how would they differ if mini-LED is standard?
Question 2: How much do you think they'll cost?

I have the same question. The prices for a base model MBP 15/16 went from 1799 to 1999 to 2399 over the last years. I got the last MBP 15 without discrete graphics.

After that Apple decided that bigger screen = more performance = premium price.
They don’t do it that way with iPhones and iPads. Also the MBA used to be the same/a similar device in two sizes with a minor price difference between them.

I hope they will bring that (back) to the MBPs. But who knows. Apple probably makes a lot of money with pricing the large MBPs so high. People still pay that premium even if they only want the bigger screen.
 
You won’t see m1 sales figures as Apple simply shows Mac sales overall.

Main reason Apple released the M1 is because of performance issues and constant delays on Intel’s side. Intel is (was) the top performance leader in chip design. However, I think they rested on their laurels. Then they either lost key talent or stopped investing as much in r&d. Which has allowed Apple, AMD, Qualcomm to step up their game.

Apple likely would have stayed with a Intel if they haven’t been so stagnant and continually missed deadlines of their own to get off the 14mm process. Intel is a great company and I hope Intel will use this opportunity to realize they need to invest for their future.
Intel is a "great company"? Their incompetency is literally on display for the world to see. For AMD to surpass Intel in such a public manner makes absolutely no sense given Intel's significantly larger war chest and head start. There is no greatness here folks, unless you're talking 5 years ago. Adding insult to injury, for Apple to create a home grown CPU that will run circles around Intel is a wake up call. It is unbelievable what the M1 has done for affordable video editing gear, simply unbelievable.
 
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Definitely waiting anxiously for the PRO version of the M1 for the next generation of iMac or iMac Pro desktops - this will be a game changer for affordable video editing productivity. Don't have to wait for availability of CPU/GPU anymore, just buy the Mac and be done with it.
 
That’s part of the reason I went with a MBA.
I wouldn't be surprised if they are testing force touch on the touch bar to address this issue of accidentally touching active buttons on the touch bar. Then they become no more likely to be accidentally pressed than a regular mechanical function keys line.
 
Everytime I plan on investing a good chunk of cash into an Apple product (Macbook Pro M1) there is always an article that tells me it's going to be superceded in a big way....

Puts wallet away.
Been there done that. Once those are released the next rumour mill will be out about the even better versions for the second half of 2021. Never ending circle there, find one that fits your needs and enjoy it instead of watching everyone else play with their new toys.

I’m tempted myself to wait, but what good does that do? Tech moves too fast, but at the same time, I feel the hardware is ahead of the software now so anything you get, will last you a good while.
 
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I don't get this obsession with touch screens and people defending touchbar to their teeth and telling everyone "we hold it wrong". There is already a big touch surface on every macbook called the touchpad, just turn it into an 'optional screen' and add pencil support.

Please stop and think for a moment as if you were a child born today ;)
A fresh brain and a fresh mind, learning all about how the world you have just been bought into works.
Perhaps if you are lucky, when you are perhaps 3 ish? mum and dad may let you play some simple learning games on your iPad, you enjoy this, pressing the colourful things on screen, and as a few years pass, you learn to love this and learn as lot as your brain is developing.
Perhaps a few more years pass and you are lucky to get a old phone from mum or dad to call your own.
Also you enjoy touching the screen and now perhaps talking to your grandparents, and reading messages.
This to you is how the world works, and it's what you have grown to understand since the day you were born.
You are then given dads old Macbook to use, of course, you see something on-screen so naturally you reach to use the screen as that's what screens do. But oh it's broken? It does not work.
Dad has to explain, no, these screens don't work like this. You have to use this think called a separate keyboard which was developed for an old mechanical typewriter back in 1869 about 160 years ago.
Or you can slide your finger over a metal plate instead of the screen.

"But why does the screen not work like everything else does daddy?" You say in a confused manner.

Daddy can't really give you a good answer as there isn't one.
 
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Please stop and think for a moment as if you were a child born today ;)
A fresh brain and a fresh mind, learning all about how the world you have just been bought into works.
Perhaps if you are lucky, when you are perhaps 3 ish? mum and dad may let you play some simple learning games on your iPad, you enjoy this, pressing the colourful things on screen, and as a few years pass, you learn to love this and learn as lot as your brain is developing.
Perhaps a few more years pass and you are lucky to get a old phone from mum or dad to call your own.
Also you enjoy touching the screen and now perhaps talking to your grandparents, and reading messages.
This to you is how the world works, and it's what you have grown to understand since the day you were born.
You are then given dads old Macbook to use, of course, you see something on-screen so naturally you reach to use the screen as that's what screens do. But oh it's broken? It does not work.
Dad has to explain, no, these screens don't work like this. You have to use this think called a separate keyboard which was developed for an old mechanical typewriter back in 1869 about 160 years ago.
Or you can slide your finger over a metal plate instead of the screen.

"But why does the screen not work like everything else does daddy?" You say in a confused manner.

Daddy can't really give you a good answer as there isn't one.
Just because a keyboard and mouse were developed years before, doesn’t make it inferior lol. They still have a very good use in this day and age and will for years to come.

im not saying adding a touch screen is a bad idea, but it’s certainly not as big of a must have either as you’re making it out to be.
 
Very tempted with the current M1 Macs, but I know it will be worth the wait for a redesigned MacBook Pro with the very latest tech such as mini-led and hopefully FaceID.
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2021 / 2022 could get expensive

M imac 24" [home]
M Macbookpro 14" [mobile work]
Ipad pro 11 [home]

M Macpro when it arrives for work and will dump windows and intel forever [if the below happens....]

1 huge caveat - the developers of the apps we use for the office get on board the M train [Rhino, Unreal, Autodesk etc].
 
Always something new around the corner this is tech after all

my M1 air will do me well for a good 2-3 years
 
Just because a keyboard and mouse were developed years before, doesn’t make it inferior lol. They still have a very good use in this day and age and will for years to come.

im not saying adding a touch screen is a bad idea, but it’s certainly not as big of a must have either as you’re making it out to be.
I agree that old does not mean bad.
However we much face the fact that we are still using a 150 year old input method and it's possible that this method may not be perfect for eternity :)

The basic point really is, whilst I agree touching a screen may not be ideal in every single scenario, so I'm not saying screens only.
I feel it's simply logical to get to the point where all screens just are touch enabled for the times when the content of them works well for touch input.
Non touch means you are putting in a limit to usefulness.
Touch enabled just means it's there when needed so when not fit it.

Apple are doing what Apple always do and saying something is not needed/wrong simply because it does not suite them at the moment to do it.
Which will be cost and UI issues.

Given how iPad and iPhone apps will all run on future Apple hardware, and they are all multitouch enabled programs, intended for you to touch the screen.
anything less than a touch screen on a Mas will be an inferior experience for such an app.

We all know Apple will change over to touch screens.
It's just going to be funny (as it always is) to see all those saying Mac's should never have a touch screen suddenly change their minds and say it's now a good idea when Apple finally does do it.

Just like many did when Apple made small phones and so many were saying Apple would never make a stupid phablet like a Samsung and never should ;)
 
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Please stop and think for a moment as if you were a child born today ;)
A fresh brain and a fresh mind, learning all about how the world you have just been bought into works.
Perhaps if you are lucky, when you are perhaps 3 ish? mum and dad may let you play some simple learning games on your iPad, you enjoy this, pressing the colourful things on screen, and as a few years pass, you learn to love this and learn as lot as your brain is developing.
Perhaps a few more years pass and you are lucky to get a old phone from mum or dad to call your own.
Also you enjoy touching the screen and now perhaps talking to your grandparents, and reading messages.
This to you is how the world works, and it's what you have grown to understand since the day you were born.
You are then given dads old Macbook to use, of course, you see something on-screen so naturally you reach to use the screen as that's what screens do. But oh it's broken? It does not work.
Dad has to explain, no, these screens don't work like this. You have to use this think called a separate keyboard which was developed for an old mechanical typewriter back in 1869 about 160 years ago.
Or you can slide your finger over a metal plate instead of the screen.

"But why does the screen not work like everything else does daddy?" You say in a confused manner.

Daddy can't really give you a good answer as there isn't one.
Daddy can give you one - Apple makes more money this way. Plus tbh I quite enjoy not having smudgy finger marks on my laptop screen.
 
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