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Oh God, car metaphors already?

Sometimes its the only way people can communicate.

At anyrate, the Mac Pro will probably be silently updated here in the coming months. Meanwhile, professionals needing a machine won't hesitate to buy if they need it.
 
You're probably right. On June 20th it is the eight month mark from when the iMac was last updated. But the Air could be first too :rolleyes:

But also the iMac has been going through an 8-11-8-11 month update cycle, so I doubt the iMac will be updated in the summer.
 
Let's not do the typical "thread hijack" to other models. There is a place for laptop and consumer machines already. We pro users are already irritated enough.

That said, this bodes well for the Mac Pro - it means they are updating the machines without saying anything before launch.

I would also bet that 10.6.4 may have newer drivers for the MacPro's graphic card offerings.

It would not surprise me if the MacPros appear next Tuesday - Apple will have enough hexacore chips and it would follow that they do release it.

From now on it appears that there will not be much in the way of special announcements for the computer division from Apple. They will just appear.
 
Let's not do the typical "thread hijack" to other models. There is a place for laptop and consumer machines already. We pro users are already irritated enough.

That said, this bodes well for the Mac Pro - it means they are updating the machines without saying anything before launch.

I would also bet that 10.6.4 may have newer drivers for the MacPro's graphic card offerings.

It would not surprise me if the MacPros appear next Tuesday - Apple will have enough hexacore chips and it would follow that they do release it.

From now on it appears that there will not be much in the way of special announcements for the computer division from Apple. They will just appear.

Agreed. The only pessimism I have for a new Mac Pro is the dearth of rumors about it. The Mac Mini update of today was widely rumored.

I can certainly do without the fanfare and just have the Macs released.
 
Agreed. The only pessimism I have for a new Mac Pro is the dearth of rumors about it. The Mac Mini update of today was widely rumored.

I can certainly do without the fanfare and just have the Macs released.

The only things you can say for sure are

1) The new MPs will be faster then the previous gen.

2) The new MP's will be more expensive then the previous gen (the pricing on the minis seems to indicate that non-US customers will be hit with a larger increase.)

3) People will rant about the price and
a) say they are getting a PC
b) say that they are building a hackintosh.
c) scramble around to buy last year's model at a small discount.
d) not get the new MP which they have been waiting on.

The new MPs will come out and most people will not be happy.
 
Upgrade to what?

Hardly any new CPUs are available.

My guess will be an shift of CPU down one step, addition of the 6 core chips, a 5870 and that will be your lot.

Nothing to wait up for.
 
I find it hard to believe that in the computing world, nothing of interest for MP users has been developed in the last 15 months.
 
The only things you can say for sure are

1) The new MPs will be faster then the previous gen.

2) The new MP's will be more expensive then the previous gen (the pricing on the minis seems to indicate that non-US customers will be hit with a larger increase.)

3) People will rant about the price and
a) say they are getting a PC
b) say that they are building a hackintosh.
c) scramble around to buy last year's model at a small discount.
d) not get the new MP which they have been waiting on.

The new MPs will come out and most people will not be happy.

I agree and unfortunately think I may be one of those people.

I'm in a tight spot with my dual G5 dead on its second motherboard.

When PC manufacturers are including an i7 980x 6 core for around 2k that is relatively easy to overclock to 4Ghz and one has the all the GPU options, like the Nvidia 485, man, Apple looks lacking.

My bet is the 6 core will start at 2.66ghz around $3299 which is crazy, especially when the 3.33 ghz is what you need to compete with last years 8 core models.

On cinebench, only the overclocked 4 ghz chip was outperforming current 2.93 octo's.

We all know software still, and ESPECIALLY FCP, is having a hard time tapping into all the cores. Apple needs to be giving its customer's the upper Ghz clock speed, fast 1600 mhz ram and needs to drop Xeon from single socket desktops (that would save a lot of money on our end).

At the end of the day, we are talking about Apple being extremely expensive, and I am a fanboy. All I know is that the octo's in 2008 were a great deal if you looked at performance per dollar even compared to PC workstations.

With the advent of the i7, PC desktops now have the performance of workstations for half the cost.

Apple needs to have more of a "desktop" Mac Pro - the current ones are all the pricing of workstations.
 
Upgrade to what?

Hardly any new CPUs are available.

My guess will be an shift of CPU down one step, addition of the 6 core chips, a 5870 and that will be your lot.

Nothing to wait up for.

Sure, there is nothing to update. 3gb ram (max 16 gb), a 640 gb hd and a pitiful graphic card is perfectly normal for a 2300 € machine. I'll gladly pay 500 € for OS X & sleek design, I'll even gladly pay 1000 € for OS X & sleek design, but almost 1500 € is a bit much for me.
 
Agreed. The only pessimism I have for a new Mac Pro is the dearth of rumors about it. The Mac Mini update of today was widely rumored.

This is the only rumor I have seen lately from WU today:

"While Tuesday's update to the Mac mini was welcome, Wu said he is still waiting for refreshes to the Mac Pro desktop and ultraportable MacBook Air notebook. He expects those updates to come soon, as signs of pending changes from supply chain sources have indicated to the analyst.

Rumors of a Mac Pro update have persisted for months. The new desktop is believed to adopt Intel's latest Core i7 processor with six cores. In March, AppleInsider reported that Apple is expected to release a major update to its Mac Pro workstations in June, along with a larger version of its LED Cinema Display.

The last major refresh to the Mac Pro equipped it with its Nehalem Xeon processors, with a high-end eight-core Mac Pro offering two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 chips. Earlier this month, Apple quietly upgraded that to a potential maximum 2.93GHz eight-core system."
 
With the deadzone that WWDC was, I was seriously expecting a silent update on the mini or iMac this week.

Huh? I guess you didn't read the news this morning? (mini released?) maybe you meant the air, but if they release a new i-mac lineup before the Mac Pro, that would be it for me. I'd go back to windows and wouldn't look back. There already isn't much of a gap between the imac and MP and another update to the imac? Anyway I highly doubt it, but the way Apple has been moving lately, anything goes. I'm not sure what Steve Jobs has against Pro's lately, but maybe they just loose money on the Mac Pros development line or something. :(
 
This is the only rumor I have seen lately from WU today:

"While Tuesday's update to the Mac mini was welcome, Wu said he is still waiting for refreshes to the Mac Pro desktop and ultraportable MacBook Air notebook. He expects those updates to come soon, as signs of pending changes from supply chain sources have indicated to the analyst.

Rumors of a Mac Pro update have persisted for months. The new desktop is believed to adopt Intel's latest Core i7 processor with six cores. In March, AppleInsider reported that Apple is expected to release a major update to its Mac Pro workstations in June, along with a larger version of its LED Cinema Display.

The last major refresh to the Mac Pro equipped it with its Nehalem Xeon processors, with a high-end eight-core Mac Pro offering two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 chips. Earlier this month, Apple quietly upgraded that to a potential maximum 2.93GHz eight-core system."

Great. More from the Wu-ster.
 
The only things you can say for sure are

1) The new MPs will be faster then the previous gen.

2) The new MP's will be more expensive then the previous gen (the pricing on the minis seems to indicate that non-US customers will be hit with a larger increase.)

3) People will rant about the price and
a) say they are getting a PC
b) say that they are building a hackintosh.
c) scramble around to buy last year's model at a small discount.
d) not get the new MP which they have been waiting on.

The new MPs will come out and most people will not be happy.

You have no proof that the pricing will go up. The hexacore chips cost the same amount as the quad core chips in the 2009 model when they were put in. And since Apple hasn't lowered the price of the MP even though the price of the chip has gone down, they could put the hexacore chips in without any increase in price, which is more likely to happen than a huge price increase.
 
You have no proof that the pricing will go up. The hexacore chips cost the same amount as the quad core chips in the 2009 model when they were put in. And since Apple hasn't lowered the price of the MP even though the price of the chip has gone down, they could put the hexacore chips in without any increase in price, which is more likely to happen than a huge price increase.

They do? I thought the hex's STARTED at a grand. The quads started around 300 when they came out.
 
You have no proof that the pricing will go up. The hexacore chips cost the same amount as the quad core chips in the 2009 model when they were put in. And since Apple hasn't lowered the price of the MP even though the price of the chip has gone down, they could put the hexacore chips in without any increase in price, which is more likely to happen than a huge price increase.
"Enjoy the new 6-core Mac Pro starting at $3,499."
 
"Enjoy the new 6-core Mac Pro starting at $3,499."

I won't buy at that cost! ;) I can get a Core i7 980x PC with 9 GB of Ram, bluray, and a massive video card for under $2000 from HP. Or if I want an ugly as sin gamer case, I can get it overclocked to almost 4 Ghz with USB 3 from cyberpowerpc.com at the same basic price.

The last major refresh to the Mac Pro equipped it with its Nehalem Xeon processors, with a high-end eight-core Mac Pro offering two 2.26GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5500 chips. Earlier this month, Apple quietly upgraded that to a potential maximum 2.93GHz eight-core system."

I think Wu is wrong on his past updates. Apple had the 2.93 octo at release, didn't they? It was the quad that got a new option to jump 3.33 a while back.
 
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