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Minnesota and Arizona Bills Aim to Let Developers Skirt Apple's In-App Purchase Rules

jclardy said:
No but did you pay Microsoft or Apple when you used your Mac or PC to shop on amazon? No? Why not?

Because it is an operating system. Just like iOS and iPadOS.

Apple should have the right to police their own App Store, even to the extent they do today...as long as users can choose to "shop" in other App Store if those rules become too draconian. People should own the devices they purchase, not corporations.
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You’re free to jailbreak. If you’re not competent or willing to jailbreak, you’re not competent or willing to have the freedom that comes with a jailbreak.
The ecosystem is what keeps the iDevices great. I don’t believe that ecosystem would survive no fee app distribution.

Thinking further, maybe they could get around the secondary app repo thing by insisting that it must be validated and downloaded through the App Store - and then sandboxing everything coming from that secondary repo in one big, air tight sandbox for that repo...
 
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itsmeaustend said:
Do they plan to pay for the server resources to host the games? Fortnite was free on the App Store, IAPs was the only way Apple was profiting from it. You don't sell your product in a physical store and expect to do so for free, no, the store gets a cut too. It's just how life works (and how it should remain).
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“And how it should remain” lmao some of the people in these threads are total nutjobs trying to defend leach- I mean middle men.

I want the choice of promoting my app hosted on my server without fear of being censored or having to hand over 1/3rd of my earnings
 
Does anyone know if Apple is forcing or paying developers to put their apps/games on the App Store?
 
I will repeat what I said regarding the North Dakota story: this simply cannot be litigated and legislated 50 times in 50 different states. It’s not workable.
 
Rob_2811 said:
The tiny minority you mean, again not a justification for rent seeking.
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... except you did not say that.

You said : "None of it is free even for devs who pay a 0% cut to Apple they still have to pay the annual fee."

Did you not?

I care not how tiny the minority; if there are developers not paying a fee, then you were wrong in your assertions.
 
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I7guy said:
As an apple customer or observer if one has a philosophical dislike as to the fees one can take their business elsewhere.

It’s similar to questioning target As to what their stocking fees are.
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conversely if Apple doesn't like legislation in any particularly region they are free to take their business elsewhere.
 
QT Performa said:
... except you did not say that.

You said : "None of it is free even for devs who pay a 0% cut to Apple they still have to pay the annual fee."

Did you not?

I care not how tiny the minority; if there are developers not paying a fee, then you were wrong in your assertions.
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It's a moot point because nobody has suggested the App Store should be free.
 
svanstrom said:
You're trying to say that the developers can't chose to sell for Android devices instead?
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It's not the same product.... it's an iOS edition.

If I'm selling 'Widget' product, I can sell that exact same product on Amazon, BestBuy market place, and any other location. There's a distinct difference between what the OP said and you.
 
QT Performa said:
Wonderful!

Now how do you get your iPhone fixed if this third-party App Store hosts software that infects your iPhone with malware?

What if that software bricks your iPhone, who pays?

What if this third-party App Store installs an app that wipes all your data. How do you get it back?

Detailed answers with complete logic, please.
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That would be for advanced users. Could be similar to Android. An open market could create a store (like F-Droid or Aurora Store but for iPhones).

It's not easy to brick a phone. You can always look online for instructions (how to DFU and reinstall iOS).

Like I said, you can sideload apps on Android and you don't see people complaining about apps wiping data. Most people will keep using the App Store to avoid malware. Some kids will try to sideload pirate games but I don't see that as a problem.


Devs can develop for Mac and sell thru the App Store if they want. Would be nice if it was the same for iOS.
 
Rob_2811 said:
It's a moot point because nobody has suggested the App Store should be free.
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I have rarely seen someone run away from their own words so quickly after being proven wrong.

Back to the topic at hand : Did you, or did you not post those words?
 
peneaux said:
That would be for advanced users. Could be similar to Android. An open market could create a store (like F-Droid or Aurora Store but for iPhones).

It's not easy to brick a phone. You can always look online for instructions (how to DFU and reinstall iOS).

Like I said, you can sideload apps on Android and you don't see people complaining about apps wiping data. Most people will keep using the App Store to avoid malware. Some kids will try to sideload pirate games but I don't see that as a problem.
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Since you provide no logical, coherent answers and prefer to utterly side-step the questions, the simple answer is you don't know.

Got it.
 
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QT Performa said:
I have rarely seen someone run away from their own words so quickly after being proven wrong.

Back to the topic at hand : Did you, or did you not post those words?
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I think the topic at hand is Minnesota and Arizona forcing Apple to backtrack from their rent seeking.

I've double checked the original article and it is. :)
 
svanstrom said:
I would really like to see Apple stoping iDevices in Minnesota and Arizona from using the AppStore completely if this passes; or are they also going to make it a law that Apple must do business in Minnesota and Arizona…?
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Sure. Anyway am not in those states. They could drop them and then maybe California would follow. That would be very interesting to watch, much more than anything on Apple TV.
 
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I'm guessing that either Apple, if it loses, will simply not enable the App Store to work in Arizona, and/or will clearly mark the non-conforming apps as 'safe' in some way, and/or throttle download speeds and/or charge server storage & download bandwidth and/or give these apps a slower release process... there'll be many ways for people like me for instance, to be clear which apps are 'exempt' the full Apple conditions and can avoid them - or not - as we choose. I want a locked-down ecosystem, for the enhanced security etc etc - my phone isn't just another computing device - I use it for private/personal communications, banking, and so on. If I want to fanny about with games & the dodgy side of the tracks when it comes to apps I could always buy an Android device... just like today...
 
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WhoDaKat said:
I’m just curious how much longer we are going to continue to elect officials that will drop to their knees and swallow for money. At this point I would prefer actual prostitutes take over governing duties.
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I use to have a t-shirt in the 1970's that had this on the back :

Vote for the Mafia.

They only take 10%
and they offer
real protection.
 
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